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Automotive Discussion Thread | OT2 | Zero to pointless fighting faster than a GT86

Viperbah

Viperbah

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shinshoryuken said:
I agree with number 1.

The integra Type R is my favorite car ever!

I regret selling mine...I had the rarer championship white too.....
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I would be so paranoid owning one but yeah this is one of my favorite cars ever....and they never really lost value.

I'll take mine in yellow
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AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
GHG said:
Anyone who buys a new Cayman over this is officially a madman. The performance figures on the new TT RS are staggering.

Love the simplicity of the new interior since the screen is now in the dashboard instrument cluster instead of fucking up the asthetics of the interior. Also, start stop button on the steering wheel in true supercar fashion? Yes please.



I'll take it in green please.

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Nah, Cayman >>>>> TTRS. Especially in looks and interior. Hate the new TT interiors. Basic as fuck.
 
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shinshoryuken

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bah321 said:
I would be so paranoid owning one but yeah this is one of my favorite cars ever....and they never really lost value.

I'll take mine in yellow
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Thats the main reason I sold it....I had multiple theft deterrent, even a wheel boot!

I had a JDM front end which screams "STEAL ME!!"

Also I had crazy full Spoon exhaust system that you can hear miles away.
spoon header, bpipe, resonated test pip and n1 exhaust....plus a whale penis intake(mugen)....sounded insane when vtec kicks in yo'


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GHG

GHG

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matmanx1 said:
I don't know about a TT RS over a new Cayman. It depends on why you want it. The Cayman still has the option of a manual gearbox and still has the better chassis in terms of feel and dynamics, especially while cornering. For a weekend toy I would still lean towards the Cayman.

For a really fast daily driver that also happens to look and sound amazing then yeah, the TT RS makes a lot of sense.
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AlphaSnake said:
Nah, Cayman >>>>> TTRS. Especially in looks and interior. Hate the new TT interiors. Basic as fuck.
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Old Cayman, yes. New 4-pot turbo Cayman? No way.

And yeh, I look at cars from the perspective of what it would be like to use on public roads, because let's be frank, that's where we all do 99% of our driving. For me it's about having fun in a safe way while making a hell of a noise.

If you're getting tail happy on public roads you need to take a good look at yourself.
 
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mkenyon

Banned
Seemingly good E39 M5 on Bringatrailer: http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-bmw-m5-3/

*edit*

I couldn't help it, put a bid down.
GHG said:
Old Cayman, yes. New 4-pot turbo Cayman? No way.

And yeh, I look at cars from the perspective of what it would be like to use on public roads, because let's be frank, that's where we all do 99% of our driving. For me it's about having fun in a safe way while making a hell of a noise.

If you're getting tail happy on public roads you need to take a good look at yourself.
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As long as it still drives like an Audi/VW, no fucking thank you. I get people who want the best performance period, but I need the car to speak to me.

You don't need to get tail happy or drive hard to feel the basic driving dynamics.

You also have to remember, not everyone lives in the flat desert. Most of the people here have some sort of back country roads within close driving distance.
 
GHG

GHG

Member
mkenyon said:
Seemingly good E39 M5 on Bringatrailer: http://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-bmw-m5-3/

As long as it still drives like an Audi/VW, no fucking thank you. I get people who want the best performance period, but I need the car to speak to me.

You don't need to get tail happy or drive hard to feel the basic driving dynamics.

You also have to remember, not everyone lives in the flat desert. Most of the people here have some sort of back country roads within close driving distance.
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Haha love it
the roads here are boring :(
. To be fair, even when I go back to the UK eventually I would still have a preference towards AWD performance/sports cars because of the fact that the B roads can get very very slippery when it's wet (which is most of the time). I'd want a car that would be great fun point to point but not unusable approaching the limit for 80% of the year.

Looks like I'm on my own with this one. Maybe I'd be a hairdresser in another life.
 
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DivineRage002

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jongkookie said:
Suck it Evo X!



Sidenote: FH3 IMO, might be the best racing of all time. The cars in the game feel like a 90% FM6 and 10% Horizon and it just feels fncking awesome to play.

I wasn't planning to get the ultimate edition at first but I feel like I have to now... it's ridiculously good!

It just needs Mighty Car Mods and this game will definitely be the GOAT.
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Have you tried it with a controller? How is it? I remember Forza 6 being nearly unplayable in the faster cars on a controller.
 
Shortt Sirket

Shortt Sirket

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DivineRage002 said:
Have you tried it with a controller? How is it? I remember Forza 6 being nearly unplayable in the faster cars on a controller.
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I wouldn't say that necessarily. I have played a metric fuckton of Forza 6 and while the fast cars can be a handful, it isn't that bad really. Just lots and lots of practice modulating the triggers. The FFB triggers help a TON with that though.
 
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DivineRage002

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Shortt Sirket said:
I wouldn't say that necessarily. I have played a metric fuckton of Forza 6 and while the fast cars can be a handful, it isn't that bad really. Just lots and lots of practice modulating the triggers. The FFB triggers help a TON with that though.
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I remember clearly the LeMans prototype in the rain at Sebring showcase being completely impossible to keep the car on the track.
 
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Evo X

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jongkookie said:
Suck it Evo X!

Sidenote: FH3 IMO, might be the best racing of all time. The cars in the game feel like a 90% FM6 and 10% Horizon and it just feels fncking awesome to play.

I wasn't planning to get the ultimate edition at first but I feel like I have to now... it's ridiculously good!
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Umm.. that's not the time I set. You just beat a drivatar that had a 2013 Mustang, while you were using a 2016 350R. LOL

But yeah, Horizon 3 is epic. Was playing online multiplayer last night with 7 people and had a blast.

Gonna be a hard choice to play it on Xbox using the crazy Home Theater setup or 4K/60 on PC.
 
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Mattlikewhoa

Member
Evo X said:
Someone tell me why I shouldn't buy this widebody 550whp NSX.
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No... you NEED to purchase this car!

FStop7 said:
80s and early 90s cars are starting to get deep nostalgia appeal. I'm seeing more and more pics of big name hip hop artists rolling in cars like an early 90s Mercedes 500SL coupe. The cars they dreamed of when they were kids but couldn't afford, same as the kids who dreamed of muscle cars.

I started working on a list of 90s cars I think will blow up in value. Right now I think my #1 is the Acura Integra Type R. They've already been coveted for a long time and they've suffered horrible attrition due to both being wrecked as well as being enormous targets for thieves. #2 is the MKIV Toyota Supra, for obvious reasons.

I excluded the 993 because let's face it, it's already blown up in value.

American 90s cars I see blowing up: 1993 Mustang Cobra and Cobra R. Corvette ZR-1. Anything done by Lingenfelter before John died.
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I've always loved DC2's and enjoyed the time I have spent behind the wheel of my friends Type R. I even came close to purchasing a EK9 (Type R) a few years ago. I can't get over how much they get stolen. The parts are like Lego, so they work on soooooo many different models. The paranoia my Honda friends have is funny and sad. I can't live like that.

Supra JZA80's have always held there value, and the prices are continually rising. Speaking to some of the RHD import owners in my city, the prices have been going up on those as well.

I'm still holding on to purchasing a BNR34, but the current prices of a Grade 4+ is $50-60K before shipping and taxes :( I'm creeping on used R35 money soon.
 
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jongkookie

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DivineRage002 said:
Have you tried it with a controller? How is it? I remember Forza 6 being nearly unplayable in the faster cars on a controller.
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Judging by the Lambo Centenario, it's perfectly fine.

The handling is what I was talking about when I said 90% FM6 and 10% Horizon. It's arcadey, in that drifts are very easy to hold(unlike FM6) but for the most part drives like a sim(or at least FM6).

I'm gonna try another car tonight, coz I had the GT350R last night, and IIRC you can choose between an M series, Silvia Spec-R, and a Holden Maloo.

Evo X said:
Umm.. that's not the time I set. You just beat a drivatar that had a 2013 Mustang, while you were using a 2016 350R. LOL

But yeah, Horizon 3 is epic. Was playing online multiplayer last night with 7 people and had a blast.

Gonna be a hard choice to play it on Xbox using the crazy Home Theater setup or 4K/60 on PC.
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Haha I know. I'm just making some jokes.

I'm definitely getting it for Xbone since my PC can't even play Doom at low settings and 1080p30 lol.

Gonna have to try online sometime tonight. I was just having fun doing donuts with my GT350R last night.
 
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Fallout-NL

Member
Evo X said:
Umm.. that's not the time I set. You just beat a drivatar that had a 2013 Mustang, while you were using a 2016 350R. LOL

But yeah, Horizon 3 is epic. Was playing online multiplayer last night with 7 people and had a blast.

Gonna be a hard choice to play it on Xbox using the crazy Home Theater setup or 4K/60 on PC.
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Really? Seems to me PC is the way to go.
 
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matmanx1

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GHG said:
Haha love it
the roads here are boring :(
. To be fair, even when I go back to the UK eventually I would still have a preference towards AWD performance/sports cars because of the fact that the B roads can get very very slippery when it's wet (which is most of the time). I'd want a car that would be great fun point to point but not unusable approaching the limit for 80% of the year.

Looks like I'm on my own with this one. Maybe I'd be a hairdresser in another life.
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You aren't alone. I have a soft spot for the sporty Audi's. I have always liked the TT in particular and I love the 5 banger in the RS. Like I said, if i was looking for more of a daily then I would definitely take a hard look at it.

Does anyone know if we are getting the RS in the USA or any other model with that motor in it? It puts the 4 cylinder in the S3 to shame.
 
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FStop7

Banned
TheBryanJZX90 said:
How about first gen Vipers? Any Trans Ams or Camaros good enough to get the same kind of attention as a Cobra R?
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I don't know F-Bodies that well but the 1989 Turbo Trans Am immediately comes to mind. GNX power train in the F-Body chassis. Only 1,500 made.

ameratsu said:
I don't really like the whole speculative layer to vehicle ownership. I can kind of get that as vehicles rise in value, people take better care of them, and that those of us fortunate enough to have money to drop on a nostalgia trip can end up with a really great example.

At the same time, it's kind of infuriating that great drivers cars are more or less end up locked away and toted out for the occasional car show but never really driven. I guess my only solace is that for every person playing that game successfully, there's plenty more who bought a car under the pretense of appreciation potential but end up barely enjoying it and selling it for a loss.
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I 100% agree with you. It's a waste. On the bright side there are a lot of historic track days and full fledged historic races. Monterey, Goodwood, etc.


I didn't know the FH3 demo was out. FH1 is one of my favorite racing games. Up there with Gran Turismo 2, Forza 3, and Forza 6. FH2 was kind of a letdown.
 
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Evo X

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jongkookie said:
Judging by the Lambo Centenario, it's perfectly fine.

The handling is what I was talking about when I said 90% FM6 and 10% Horizon. It's arcadey, in that drifts are very easy to hold(unlike FM6) but for the most part drives like a sim(or at least FM6).

I'm gonna try another car tonight, coz I had the GT350R last night, and IIRC you can choose between an M series, Silvia Spec-R, and a Holden Maloo.

Haha I know. I'm just making some jokes.

I'm definitely getting it for Xbone since my PC can't even play Doom at low settings and 1080p30 lol.

Gonna have to try online sometime tonight. I was just having fun doing donuts with my GT350R last night.
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I also chose the GT350R last night. Tried the other ones out too since you can use your friends cars in multiplayer. I don't know how much more I'm going to play the demo since I don't want to get burnt out before the full game releases in 10 days.

Fallout-NL said:
Really? Seems to me PC is the way to go.
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Since this is a Play Anywhere title, you get both versions for 1 price. I already pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition for Xbox One, but will go back and forth between playing it on console and PC. It is also cross play online and progress is shared between the two versions. Pretty awesome.

mkenyon said:
60fps cap on PC? I don't know anything about it yet.
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No, I believe they said framerate is uncapped. I just said 60 because they don't make 4K monitors with higher refresh rates yet. Probably gonna switch between that and th 21:9 3440x1440 100hz monitor I got.
 
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FStop7

Banned
Sad but I understand it. That platform w/ 4 doors is pretty unbeatable.

My A3 was probably the most versatile and useful vehicle I've ever owned. Fit 5 people in comfort and a 1 weekend bag each in the hatch? Check. 30mpg? Check. Carry surprisingly large loads of cargo with the seats folded down? Check. Respectable handling and acceleration? Check.
 
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TheBryanJZX90

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FStop7 said:
I don't know F-Bodies that well but the 1989 Turbo Trans Am immediately comes to mind. GNX power train in the F-Body chassis. Only 1,500 made.
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Yup yup TTA was definitely on my mind, but I thought it and the GNX had to already have collector status by now? What with being faster than the Corvette of the day... are they still relatively affordable?
 
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DivineRage002

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My predictions for future classics from the 90s:

Honda NSX, obviously
Audi RS2 Avant
BMW 850CSi
BMW M5 E34
1st gen Dodge Viper, obviously
Eagle Talon/Mitsubishi Eclipse
A not completely demolished and disfigured CRX
Already mentioned Integra Type-R and Civic Type-R
Lexus SC300
Mazda RX-7, obviously
Mercedes 190E Evo (this is pretty much already a classic)
Mitsubishi GTO
Mitsubishi Evo 6
A non disfigured Nissan 240SX/300ZX/R32 GTR/Silvia
A non disfigured Toyota MR-2/Supra
VW Corrado VR6
Ford Escort RS

Shamelessly taken from Forza's car lists through their games.
I skipped the super obvious from the supercar brands since basically everything from them will turn classic.
 
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matmanx1

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What about the 4th and 5th gen Toyota Celica turbo models and the 2nd gen MR2's? Maybe less so on the Celica but the MR2's definitely have a following.
 
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DivineRage002

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matmanx1 said:
What about the 4th and 5th gen Toyota Celica turbo models and the 2nd gen MR2's? Maybe less so on the Celica but the MR2's definitely have a following.
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I was referring to the 2nd gen, I believe the 1st gen was from the late 80s?

And I had considered the Celica GT4 but it is a lot less known than most others on that list, I don't think a lot of people would recognize one as a classic but just as "another old Celica".

Edit: I had considered the Renault Clio Williams but discarded it for the same reason, I just don't think it'll be recognised by the large majority of people.
 
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nabe_shogun

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I don't see enough people caring about the celica except for the people who are already into them. I'd say the same also goes for the mitsubishi 3000gt/gto and the sc300
 
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FStop7

Banned
TheBryanJZX90 said:
Yup yup TTA was definitely on my mind, but I thought it and the GNX had to already have collector status by now? What with being faster than the Corvette of the day... are they still relatively affordable?
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GNX has had collector status for many years because it's a super rare variant of the Grand National. I just checked and last year a GNX sold for $165k at a Barrett Jackson auction.

The regular Grand National and the Buick T-Type will probably be very collectible, too.
 
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jongkookie

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It's already at $15K.

Oh well lol.

nabe_shogun said:
I don't see enough people caring about the celica except for the people who are already into them. I'd say the same also goes for the mitsubishi 3000gt/gto and the sc300
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Nobody cares about the Celica coz it's wrong wheel drive, especially the last generation.

I personally am a fan though, I've always liked them and understand why they're awesome even if they got away from the Supra.
 
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Mistel

Banned
DivineRage002 said:
My predictions for future classics from the 90s:
Ford Escort RS

Shamelessly taken from Forza's car lists through their games.
I skipped the super obvious from the supercar brands since basically everything from them will turn classic.
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Bit late on that really like decades late.
 
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TheBryanJZX90

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nabe_shogun said:
I don't see enough people caring about the celica except for the people who are already into them. I'd say the same also goes for the mitsubishi 3000gt/gto and the sc300
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Well I did see a guy list a manual 97 SC300 with low mileage for $16,000 awhile back on Autotrader. One of only 150 or so for that, the last model year too.

No way anyone paid that though right?
 
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Evo X

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Mercedes has revealed their AMG GT Roadster, including a wide body "C" variant.

550HP. 0-60 in 3.7 and top speed of 188mph.

Changes to the "C" include an AMG performance exhaust and electronic differential as standard, 57mm more rear width than the standard Roadster thanks to swollen bodywork to accommodate a wider track with wider wheels, and the R’s rear-wheel steering system. It also borrows active aero flaps behind the front bumper from the R, minimizing drag when the engine’s cruising or maximizing cooling when it’s working hard. New for the C is a shorter first gear ratio for the seven-speed twin clutch, and a longer seventh, plus an active pop-up rear spoiler that extends and retracts depending on speed and transmission mode.
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Thoughts?

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More pics and info here: http://www.topgear.com/car-news/first-look/mercedes-amg-gt-roadster-here
 
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