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Automotive Discussion Thread | OT2 | Zero to pointless fighting faster than a GT86
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Viperbah
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haha...20 is not bad.
These horsepower wars are nuts...you have to wonder when it gets to be too much.
BrokenEchelon
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Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
You know when you see something, and you just know - somewhere in your core - that one day... you don't know how... but one day, you'll own that?
I saw Air Force One shoes in 6th grade. By 7th, I had them.
I saw the Palm Tungsten T3, and six months later, I begged, borrowed, and stole my way to one.
In HS, a kid bought a brand new, top-end 15" G4 PowerBook. I told myself that someday, I would have something that nice. It took more than seven years, but now I'm typing on a 15" retina MBP.
It might be six months or six years, I'm not sure. But mark my words, I WILL own a Hellcat. Period.
I saw Air Force One shoes in 6th grade. By 7th, I had them.
I saw the Palm Tungsten T3, and six months later, I begged, borrowed, and stole my way to one.
In HS, a kid bought a brand new, top-end 15" G4 PowerBook. I told myself that someday, I would have something that nice. It took more than seven years, but now I'm typing on a 15" retina MBP.
It might be six months or six years, I'm not sure. But mark my words, I WILL own a Hellcat. Period.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Had to google it.. and I still don't get it.
Anyways.. After a few days with the Evora (just got back from EVO)... i love this damn car.
Lotus handling is so freaking amazing. The car sounds like sex with the exhaust and revving as well and it takes bumps on the roads better than my MINI did that is for sure (which is really surprising for a Lotus)
Few things I hate... DRLs can't be turned off or something which forces the backlights on the displays to dim a bit during the day. There are apparently workarounds but that is so wonky. The GPS is kinda meh but I expected that since it was something that Lotus just shoe horned into the Evora's. I can barely see out of the back window. BARELY. In fact, it is almost overly scary. The blind spots are real in this car. I have to like quadruple check to see if I'm not going to hit anyone. What is even more crazy is the blind spots are worse than the MINI Coupe S (2 seater hardtop) which is known for having some of the worst.
But... other than that.. I freaking love it
I am also absolutely scared driving it. I feel like I have to be so freakishly careful with this car. I know that will fade soon so I'm looking forward to that happening
rokkerkory
Member
new Mazda 2 pics and videos:
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2016-mazda-2-unveiled-with-us-deliveries-expected-in-mid-2015.html
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2016-mazda-2-unveiled-with-us-deliveries-expected-in-mid-2015.html
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
That's cute looking.
Speaking of cute, did you guys see the new Smart Fortwo? It looks better than the old one, and the 5-speed manual is confirmed for the North American market.
http://jalopnik.com/the-2016-smart-fortwo-stays-small-but-gets-huge-improve-1606132758
I love the connection from a manual, but CVTs are theoretically the fastest gearbox possible. It would have been interesting to see an alternative future where CVTs weren't banned from F1. Just found this facinating video of Coulthard driving a CVT Williams.
Complaints about the noise would probably be much louder than now though
Would be interesting if someone made a CVT with proper manual control and not fake gears.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
These two simply will never go together. There are no gears in a CVT - just bands that contract and expand simulating a ratio. That's it.
whatsinaname
Member
BMW hops onto the recall bandwagon. 1.6 million 3-series recalled for the Takata airbag problem.
Last I looked they made dual outlets for the cars I researched. I have a Blitz Nur Spec-R exhaust on my Evo, and was hoping for a single can style loud exhaust for the WRX but all I see are those dual outlets. : /
Ford releases horsepower numbers for 2015 Mustang:
Turbo 4: 310 hp
V6: 300 hp
5.0 GT: 435 hp
http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-confirms-435-hp-for-mustang-gt-300-hp-downgrade-for-v6.html
Turbo 4: 310 hp
V6: 300 hp
5.0 GT: 435 hp
http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-confirms-435-hp-for-mustang-gt-300-hp-downgrade-for-v6.html
Viperbah
Member
I am thinking the mustang crowd will be disappointed with these numbers...especially when the 2016 Camaro will likely have the LT1 (460hp) and be built on a lighter platform.
Around 580k E46s in the US. I need to make sure that I am in BMWs system as current owner so I get the recall notice if my car is impacted.
They're not bad by any means, but yeah I'm excited to see what's in store for the next gen Camaro.
Edit: Speaking of next gen Camaro.
http://wot.motortrend.com/1407_next_gen_2016_chevrolet_camaro_spied_for_the_first_time.html
That thing was never designed with any aerodynamics in mind, period. To be honest I am surprised it isn't limited to less than that for safety reasons.
I hate it out of all proportion to rational thought.
But it is an awesome heel car and I am glad it exists.
Mattlikewhoa
Member
Oh okay, now I understand. Well I hope you see a NUR-SPEC release from them. I haven't been following the new STI/WRX release, but I'm sure there will be a few single exhaust releases for it (from various manufactures).
PseudoKirby
Banned
These two simply will never go together. There are no gears in a CVT - just bands that contract and expand simulating a ratio. That's it.
Toyota Made a hydraulically controlled manual called the SMT for the MR2.
Yeah, unfortunately I never "grew up", and I still love my loud exhausts lol. Don't know why, can't help it. It looks like I'll be going with this:
http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Tomei-440018-Expreme-Ti-Titanium-Catback-Exhaust
Also, looks like the Mustang got it's numbers out now:
5.0: 435hp / 400ftlb
Eco-Boost 2.3: 310hp / 320ftlb
5.0 is weighing in at 3700lbs.
2.3: 3500lbs.
Now we just got to wait and see what people get out of it in testing handling wise. That's where i'm most curious of the car (though I wouldn't be buying one now, maybe in 2 years or so when I pay off the new car, if i like it when i drive it). Ford claims it stomped it's Boss, so it's going to be impressive I think.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Okay? Everyone did at some point. BMW, especially. And even Saab. What does that have to do with manually shifting CVTs?
whatsinaname
Member
These two simply will never go together. There are no gears in a CVT - just bands that contract and expand simulating a ratio. That's it.
The funny thing is, Honda offers/offered a CVT with a manual mode+flappy paddles.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Almost all of the companies do. Subaru, Nissan, etc.
These two simply will never go together. There are no gears in a CVT - just bands that contract and expand simulating a ratio. That's it.
I know very well how they work. I was thinking manual control like changing the gear ratio yourself instead of a computer doing it and stepless (no "gears"). Strange example, but it is possible on some lawnmowers like ours where the ratio increases the further you release the pedal. It's an incidental feature (hard to explain in text, but there is a gear leaver that locks the pedal) and much more elegant on some which it'd have to be in a car, but it would be really nice to have the right RPM all the time.
And CVT just means continous ratio. You can make a CVT from a simple planetary gear set which many hybrids do like the Prius. I still can't properly visulize them even though they're super simple.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Oh, well in that case meet the Saab Sensonic Transmission.
That's an automatic clutch. I want a continuous gear ratio that can be controlled manually.
Why would you want a CVT over a DCT?
A CVT has no business what so ever being in any sporty or sports car.
whatsinaname
Member
That I did not know. I would have thought that the demand for a CVT with manually selectable stops would be so low that no OEM would make one.
If you could manually set individual gear ratios, it'd be kind of like having a fully customizable transmission in Gran Turismo. That'd be kind of neat.
Have you ever driven a CVT? They are really terrible in comparison to even a normal standard auto with manual shift capability. The only thing they are good for is fuel economy.
Go test drive a CVT WRX then an EVO MR and then you will see the massive differences between the transmissions and their driver feedback.
the whole point of CVT (=continuous variable transmission) is that there are no fixed gear rations. well, there are two fixed ratios but inbetween you have unlimited ratios, not only seven or eight as in current gearboxes. you can't set any point manually, there is nothing to set. check the animation again.
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
Aside from "oh that's neat" it defeats the purpose of having a CVT. The CVT in normal operation would be significantly better than what you're suggesting.
I'm aware of how a CVT works. Some manufacturers that make CVTs allow you to manually shift between a set of predetermined ratios (two of them presumably being the highest and lowest possible, the rest being somewhere between those two). I know it defeats the purpose of a CVT. I was just saying it'd be neat if they allowed you to change the preset ratios.
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
If I had a friend who bought a car where you could change the ratios I would immediately change them to 5:1, 5:1, 5:1, 5:1, 5:1, 0.2:1
GHG
Member
This is the exact feeling I'm getting with this hellcat. It shouldn't even exist it's so nuts but it does. Love me some supercharged v8.
I might even straight swap my x6 for one when they find their way over to the Middle East.
Then regret my decision 2 weeks later.
Edit:
http://youtu.be/6xpZ2u2xAys
I will regret nothing but my wife just might kill me.
Maybe. I haven't tried one, but my impression of most automatics is that they act as if I don't plan ahead by staying in the wrong gear when I've stopped accelerating and pre emptively downshifting for hills. I've also driven a lot of small diesels and with the turbo lag and long second gear means I have to rev to 3k in first in some hills and it always sounds so unrefined. Maybe have the option to choose the RPM so you didn't need to keep moving the gear ratio when setting off
I just hate all the electronics acting as if I can't operate a car, but I haven't had much experience with automatics and just extrapolate what electronic throttles do. My driving style on our roads is very relaxed so a CVT might fit well, but I just really like having a direct connection to the drivetrain with a stick and planning ahead.
notoriousKTR
Member
It's sad that the ecoboost weighs more than the V6, and the manual transmission weighs more than the automatic.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
The difference in weight is a negligible 8lbs or something.
And it's not sad, it makes perfect sense. The amount of extras strapped on to a turbocharged car dramatically increases weight. The motor itself may be smaller, but the two cylinders missing are more than made up for by the turbine, the piping, hoses, the clamps, cooling system/intercooler, and any additional manifold tidbits to round out the entire package. There's a lot of stuff involved.
And yes, automatics weigh less now because more R&D is being put into them with time, and materials used are lighter weight to reduce friction. Some transmissions use a significant amount of aluminum, as well. Manual transmissions have effectively hit their peak as far as design goes. The way traditional torque-converter automatics have evolved over the past 2-4 years has simply been stunning, the ZF gearboxes are simply out of this world - virtually DCT fast. And Chevy claims their brand new 8-speed automatic in the 2015 Corvttes are faster than a PDK.
A fucking PDK. Insane.
Same here. Though right now I keep being all wishy-washy between ...
1. 2015 Corvette
2. One of the top-trim levels of the new Mustang (I think the 350R got spied not too long ago)
3. The 6th-gen Camaro LS1 (or maybe 5th-gen if the 6th-gen looks like crap)
4. The Hellcat
I like the new Cayman GTS, but optioned out the way I want it's a bit more than I'd like to spend. I want something fast, a little bit ostentatious, loud, and that puts a smile on my face each time I crank it up.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
GoldenEye 007
Member
So I opted for the Mazda3 i Sport trim. How easy is it to add SiriusXM capability?
With the new Mazdas, the only way to get it is the iTouring trim with the $1,600 tech package. Or of course a higher trim, which were all out of my price range.
With the new Mazdas, the only way to get it is the iTouring trim with the $1,600 tech package. Or of course a higher trim, which were all out of my price range.
Probably. I get all the letters mixed up. Whatever the top of the line Camaro is... Not the new Z/28, but the one under it.
GHG
Member
The ZL1?
I test drove one of those a few months ago along with a Caddy CTS-V. Crazy fast cars but I'm just too tall for either of them to be comfortable on my daily 30 minute commute. The room in the Challenger is much better however but the SRT just didn't feel fast enough for me. The hellcat should change that.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
The LT1 is a dinosaur engine from the 90s..
Hahaha, that got a chuckle out of me. As you know probably know, the original LT1 actually dates back to the 1970s.
Fortunately, none of the three LT1s share any commonality, just GM ran out of codes. Haha.
Haha yeah, you can get either a 1970 Chevelle SS or a 2004 Corvette Z06 with a LS6 too.
Thanks for posting this. I lost it at this whole sequence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i11Q0Muqv0&t=2m30s