AVATAR surpasses Titanic to become the highest-grossing movie OF ALL TIME

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Resists...urge...to criticize...I'm glad people enjoyed this movie because hopefully it might make people think that sci-fi is not a trash genre. Even if I didn't think the movie was anything particularly special. Then again probably not because of all the things Cameron combines to make the movie appeal to the widest possible audience. Ah well. Still extremely impressive revenue.
 
The best part of Avatar's success is seeing all the haters cry :lol

Please, PLEASE continue to bring out the inflation argument because it never gets old!
 
jett said:
jett what motherfucker
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:lol

And I know it's hardly a serious discussion, but the people saying they could have just mined the Hallelujah Mountains instead of the ground under Hometree are forgetting that software malfunctions in the magnetic flux vortex. The mining equipment wouldn't even work properly even if they could transport it up there.

And FINALLY Avatar hit the top spot. I wonder what percentage of that 1.86 billion is from GAF.
 
Aristotlekh said:
Can't wait 'til Dark Knight 2 and the new Star Wars movie Lucas swears won't happen overtake Avatar to become the "highest grossing movies OF ALL TIME." Why is it that not adjusting for inflation makes every new blockbuster a news story? Gone With The Wind would have made over a billion domestic if it came out now.
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you really think Gone with the Wind would make a billion in 2009? it would be lucky to make 200 million:lol
 
Tim the Wiz said:
Saw this in the comments section of The Guardian's article (on James Cameron beating James Cameron):



Would this be correct?
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I don't think so. You would have to account for inflation in every single country and the Dollar's position against that country's currency in order to make an accurate estimate. That's why BOM doesn't have an all time adjusted worldwide chart.
 
LosDaddie said:
The best part of Avatar's success is seeing all the haters cry :lol

Please, PLEASE continue to bring out the inflation argument because it never gets old!
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Yeah I may not have loved the movie but it's a very dangerous game to disagree with it's success.
 
Nazgul_Hunter said:
I don't think so. You would have to account for inflation in every single country and the Dollar's position against that country's currency in order to make an accurate estimate. That's why BOM doesn't have an all time adjusted worldwide chart.
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Personally I find the domestic adjusted numbers a bit suspect. You started analyzing that list and its al over place. Then there's things like the fact that Jaws was the first movie to reach $100 million...GWTW...made a 100 million between 1975 and 1989(it's final re-release)? There's no information corroborating this.

Ah well.
 
jett said:
Personally I find the domestic adjusted numbers a bit suspect. You started analyzing that list and its al over place. Then there's things like the fact that Jaws was the first movie to reach $100 million...GWTW...made a 100 million between 1975 and 1989(it's final re-release)? There's no information corroborating this.

Ah well.
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It can definitely be a good barometer of how popular a movie that old was, but it's like comparing apples to oranges now.

For example; take Cars. It may not be the highest grossing Pixar movie, but it has made the most money in merchandising by far than any other Pixar (I don't know if more than all kids') movies ever. Does that make it the most popular?

How about all those movies that have gained enormous popularity through DVD? Batman Begins was one; Family Guy (in TV) and even Arrested Development has developed quite a following.

When 3D TVs are in full swing; I imagine Avatar will probably be the number one 3D Bluray for quite a while.

The measure of success is completely different now than it was before.
 
Aristotlekh said:
Can't wait 'til Dark Knight 2 and the new Star Wars movie Lucas swears won't happen overtake Avatar to become the "highest grossing movies OF ALL TIME." Why is it that not adjusting for inflation makes every new blockbuster a news story? Gone With The Wind would have made over a billion domestic if it came out now.
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Two billion if it was in 3D and in color with DTS. Let's not forget the fact that people would come to see if because the actors are all dead. Oh yeah and it can now benefit from international numbers. Fuck it, Gone with the Wind would hit 3 billion today in 15 days if it came out now.
 
Nazgul_Hunter said:
It can definitely be a good barometer of how popular a movie that old was, but it's like comparing apples to oranges now.

For example; take Cars. It may not be the highest grossing Pixar movie, but it has made the most money in merchandising by far than any other Pixar (I don't know if more than all kids') movies ever. Does that make it the most popular?

How about all those movies that have gained enormous popularity through DVD? Batman Begins was one; Family Guy (in TV) and even Arrested Development has developed quite a following.

When 3D TVs are in full swing; I imagine Avatar will probably be the number one 3D Bluray for quite a while.

The measure of success is completely different now than it was before.
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Indeed.
 
LosDaddie said:
The best part of Avatar's success is seeing all the haters cry :lol

Please, PLEASE continue to bring out the inflation argument because it never gets old!
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just like my older brother!!! i love his hate, makes me laugh
 
Is it being taken into account both for inflation, and the fact that you have to pay 12 bucks or so to view it in 3d?
I did like the movie and want it to do good, but I cant help but wonder about the inflation/3d glasses argument too.
 
Solo said:
I am so glad you brought this up. I was wondering if anyone would bring up inflation in this thread.
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I read the other posts about inflation. Just didnt see anything about the 3d glasses. My bad.
 
This has been my favorite comment on the matter:
Twitter.com/BrentSpiner said:
Well, it finally happened. "Avatar" passed "Nemesis" to become the highest grossing film of all time.
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So close... so close Data.
 
Salz01 said:
Is it being taken into account both for inflation, and the fact that you have to pay 12 bucks or so to view it in 3d?
I did like the movie and want it to do good, but I cant help but wonder about the inflation/3d glasses argument too.
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Christ man, read ANY post in this thread. People have been doing damage control with that non-sense. People said the same thing for Titanic.. except you know, in the past 12 years, ONLY TITANIC HAS BEEN AFFECTED WITH INFLATION.

It's really fucking annoying that people in this thread can't accept the fact that Titanic, Avatar AND the dark knight were all good movies and made plenty of money.
 
user_nat said:
No relation at all.

I believe the animated TV series is getting its own movie also.
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I believe it is this, right?

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Tim the Wiz said:
Saw this in the comments section of The Guardian's article (on James Cameron beating James Cameron):

Would this be correct?
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I'm actually dubious of those figures now. GWTW took several decades to make its total earnings, and those figures (including those on boxofficemojo) are using the release year - 1939 - as the basis for adjustment. I suspect when you plot its earnings along each year, and adjust for those, you'll get a much smaller number. Not that it matters....

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jett said:
Personally I find the domestic adjusted numbers a bit suspect. You started analyzing that list and its al over place. Then there's things like the fact that Jaws was the first movie to reach $100 million...GWTW...made a 100 million between 1975 and 1989(it's final re-release)? There's no information corroborating this.

Ah well.
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I see I'm late to this point.
 
Salz01 said:
Is it being taken into account both for inflation, and the fact that you have to pay 12 bucks or so to view it in 3d?
I did like the movie and want it to do good, but I cant help but wonder about the inflation/3d glasses argument too.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol
 
Adjusted for inflation it will still be top 20 in the u.s. when all is said and done. That's still pretty damn fuck awesome if you ask me.

Also with so much to do these days movie attendance will never surpass what it once was.
Hell they hardly even do re-leases at all.

Success is success. It's all good.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I'm actually dubious of those figures now. GWTW took several decades to make its total earnings, and those figures (including those on boxofficemojo) are using the release year - 1939 - as the basis for adjustment. I suspect when you plot its earnings along each year, and adjust for those, you'll get a much smaller number. Not that it matters....

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I see I'm late to this point.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't BOM also use the original release date for all of the movies, including those that received multiple theatrical releases?
 
Mumei said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't BOM also use the original release date for all of the movies, including those that received multiple theatrical releases?
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I think - but do not know for sure - that they adjust based on the re-releases they have listed. For GWTW, they have three releases listed, when it had nearly a dozen. For Star Wars, they list three. I could probably determine if they're adjusting for each one or just the total pretty easily by scaling up other movies in their archives from the same years. I'll try that during lunch if no one beats me to it.
 
Mechanical Snowman said:
:lol

And I know it's hardly a serious discussion, but the people saying they could have just mined the Hallelujah Mountains instead of the ground under Hometree are forgetting that software malfunctions in the magnetic flux vortex. The mining equipment wouldn't even work properly even if they could transport it up there.
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well, i would think the bigger problem would be removing the material that is keeping the multi million ton rock floating thousands of feet up in the air while you are on said rock.
 
akachan ningen said:
I still don't have much interest in it. I'll probably wait for the DVD and rent it. (I might even spring for the extra $2 on netflix so I can get the bluray) :p
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And this post is part of what makes AHBUHDAR's feat so incredible.

In the face of multiple entertainment alternatives, not including secondary means of seeing it ( DVD, Blu-ray, Netflix, cable) it STILL broke the WW record in 38 days.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
And this post is part of what makes AHBUHDAR's feat so incredible.

In the face of multiple entertainment alternatives, not including secondary means of seeing it ( DVD, Blu-ray, Netflix, cable) it STILL broke the WW record in 38 days.
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Yup not bad at all. And it's not even the first 3d/Imax/real d film. Why couldn't those other movies set records with "inflated" prices? Obviously because people just didn't have the interest. In addition to that, those other movies were far shorter in length.

whatever the case it's an impressive achievement when people have to come up with all sorts of crazyiness to make you believe it isn't.
 
Foxtastical said:
It's funny to see the same thing that happened to Titanic happen to Avatar.

"DiCaprio? More like DiCrapio!"
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The only person that anyone is probably going to remember in 10 years is Sigourney Weaver and Zoe Saldana(who didnt even have an "in flesh" role). I hope nobody turns out like DiCapio. He dies in nearly every film he stars in. Didnt take Titanic well lol
 
I stil haven't seen Avatar. I haven't even seen Titanic. Both looked really dumb but will give Avatar a shot when I dont have to blow 12 bucks on it
 
Aristotlekh said:
Can't wait 'til Dark Knight 2 and the new Star Wars movie Lucas swears won't happen overtake Avatar to become the "highest grossing movies OF ALL TIME." Why is it that not adjusting for inflation makes every new blockbuster a news story? Gone With The Wind would have made over a billion domestic if it came out now.
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You should just go back to listening to Sleater Kinney and fantasizing about a Tom Waits/Bill Murray sex tape.
 
I love how the op capitalized AVATAR and OF ALL TIME. This whole thread is like watching 10 year olds posting various variations of "I TOLD U SO!!" while grinning at their arbitrary victory.
 
jmdajr said:
Adjusted for inflation it will still be top 20 in the u.s. when all is said and done. That's still pretty damn fuck awesome if you ask me.

Also with so much to do these days movie attendance will never surpass what it once was.
Hell they hardly even do re-leases at all.

Success is success. It's all good.
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This. What I don't understand is why anyone interested in making serious estimates about attendance automatically gets labeled a 'hater' who is somehow attempting to diminish Avatar's inarguably amazing success. I get that there are a few TDK fanboys who are using this argument as some form of inane damage control, but that doesn't mean we can't take a serious look at where Avatar now stands - or predict where it ultimately will stand - in terms of attendance.

btw, I agree with Ghaleon & Jett that the GWTW figures are suspect. Same might be true for the original Star Wars films (those got rereleased in 1997; hope they're not corrected for '77/'80/'83 dollars).

So the Box Office Mojo adjusted chart is flawed, but it's all we have. Where do you guys think Avatar will end up on that, when all is said and done? (Currently it's #26, might get in the high teens).
 
Hating on success is a personality trait.

Usually stems from being a jock-douche or the victim of extreme jock-douchery. Which one are you?

Gratz Avatar. Well deserved.
 
Foxtastical said:
It's funny to see the same thing that happened to Titanic happen to Avatar.

"DiCaprio? More like DiCrapio!"
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Yeah except DiCaprio had actual talent, I'm not the biggest fan of him but he was obviously a good actor as apparent in Gilbert Grape, and yes he was alright in Titanic.

Worthington's bland shit. His accent jumps in all the time and he's just not natural. I haven't seen him in any Australian roles so I can't say for his talent.

But Colin Farrell is awesome when he speaks in his natural accent, when he fakes American it's shit and it almost ruined his career.
 
That congratulatory image appears to be the best thing Lucas has done (or one of Lucas's artists) since the original trilogy! Pretty neat.
 
Those shouting "inflation" from your basement seem to forget that part about 7 weeks and 9 months
The film isn't about to stop making money, even with inflation and 3d ticket prices you are still looking at one the top movie grosses of all time

and the film is great to a lot of people, everyone I know personally loved it some have seen it multiple times. For the life of me I can't remember another film so universally liked by all my immediate friends
 
rhino4evr said:
Those shouting "inflation" from your basement seem to forget that part about 7 weeks and 9 months
The film isn't about to stop making money, even with inflation and 3d ticket prices you are still looking at one the top movie grosses of all time

and the film is great to a lot of people, everyone I know personally loved it some have seen it multiple times. For the life of me I can't remember another film so universally liked by all my immediate friends
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thats another thing that critics dont seem to appreciate.

everyone wishes their favorite movies were the highest grossing, but unless you're a person with very mainstream tastes, your favorite movies wont strike a chord with everyone because the movie probably had to cater to your niche.
 
rhino4evr said:
and the film is great to a lot of people, everyone I know personally loved it some have seen it multiple times. For the life of me I can't remember another film so universally liked by all my immediate friends
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True.

I have never seen such a diverse crowd in a theatre. From kids with their grandparents, to teens and twens to men and women 50+ on their own or in small groups without kids. And all I´ve heard excecpt one 70+ guy loved it. This one guy left during the break, but maybe he thought it was over?

By the way, can someone make gifs out of youtube 3d vids? The Thanator fight, the flight scenes, all there in 3d when you look at your screen in a funny way :D
 
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