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[DeepEnigma]

You have a paycheck depending on this or something?

 

[RyanEvans21]

Yeah but can they really eventually put PS out of business with the AB purchase? Seems unlikely to me. Losing CoD is huge, but not back-breaking. All the other AB franchises aren’t big enough, maybe with the exception of Diablo, but that’s only a once in a decade+ release.

Overwatch?

Microsoft already own Zenimax & Bethesda! So no more Fallout,Skyrim or Doom or if you only play on Playstation.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

You have a paycheck depending on this or something?

That's been obvious.

 

[adamsapple]

You have a paycheck depending on this or something?

It would also be nice if Bernoulli can update Totilo's latest tweet in the OP or we can get a threadmark or something as well.

Folks are missing out on important updates.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It would also be nice if Bernoulli can update Totilo's latest tweet in the OP or we can get a threadmark or something as well.

Folks are missing out on important updates.

True. They're missing out on the foundation of their plans.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

So which is it? PlayStation and Nintendo are not our competition. Let’s buy Activision/Blizzard to push Sony out of the industry. Then again, didn’t Microsoft offer Nintendo and Sony 10 year deals for COD?

 

[DeepEnigma]

So which is it? PlayStation and Nintendo are not our competition. Let’s buy Activision/Blizzard to push Sony out of the industry. Then again, didn’t Microsoft offer Nintendo and Sony 10 year deals for COD?

With keeping 100% of the revenue and profits on DLC/MTX. All smoke & mirrors. Then divestment.

 

[Topher]

I mean... isn't this what MS has been trying to do from day one?
This is their strategy in everything, just look at the birth of Windows.

Supposedly that was the old Microsoft. The more things change.....

 

[adamsapple]

So which is it? PlayStation and Nintendo are not our competition. Let’s buy Activision/Blizzard to push Sony out of the industry. Then again, didn’t Microsoft offer Nintendo and Sony 10 year deals for COD?

Yes. It was a 10 year contract, if they followed the Minecraft model, it would probably keep going beyond the 10 years as well.

 

[Unknown?]

Supposedly that was the old Microsoft. The more things change.....

Lol @ everyone trying to say this isn't their plan because it wasn't related to the Activision deal even though the

Activision deal playing out that goal.

Yes. It was a 10 year contract, if they followed the Minecraft model, it would probably keep going beyond the 10 years as well.

It wouldn't have.

 

[poppabk]

With keeping 100% of the revenue and profits on DLC/MTX. All smoke & mirrors. Then divestment.

That wasn't the deal with Sony and Nintendo that is the Nvidia style cloud thing.

 

[DeepEnigma]

That wasn't the deal with Sony and Nintendo that is the Nvidia style cloud thing.

Sony rejected it with a hell to the no, MS wants the details hidden. So chances are, it was the same that they've been offering everyone else.

 

[Hendrick's]

Juicy booty got some balls.

 

[poppabk]

Sony rejected it with a hell to the no, MS wants the details hidden. So chances are, it was the same that they've been offering everyone else.

I think we would know if MS were offering Sony a cloud only deal.

 

[adamsapple]

I think we would know if MS were offering Sony a cloud only deal.

They weren't. In-fact they made comments on bringing the CoD games native to Nintendo hardware as well, no cloud-version shenanigans.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I think we would know if MS were offering Sony a cloud only deal.

I never said cloud only.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Embrace Extend Extinguish all over again.

Netscape Navigator all over again.

Hopefully this time it's stopped before it takes hold.

It would also be nice if Bernoulli can update Totilo's latest tweet in the OP or we can get a threadmark or something as well.

Folks are missing out on important updates.

Cut the crap; that updated post only reaffirms the plan. Do you think they were going to achieve their goal of running PlayStation out of business in a single year? Microsoft are known for multi-year running strategies and playing the long game. That's what they've done with cloud, it's what they're trying to do with Game Pass and cloud gaming. They did the same in eventually squeezing out other competitors in the past.

The large 3P acquisitions are 100% in service of the plan expressed in the 2019 email. The only people wanting to pretend otherwise, don't deserve to have a seat at the table discussing this (IMO).

 

[poppabk]

I never said cloud only.

Well that is how the 100% revenue thing works. They didn't offer the cloud providers a 10 year deal but MS keeps 100% of revenue - they offered them a 10 year deal and revenue would be dealt with exactly the same as every other game the cloud provider had on their service.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Well that is how the 100% revenue thing works. They didn't offer the cloud providers a 10 year deal but MS keeps 100% of revenue - they offered them a 10 year deal and revenue would be dealt with exactly the same as every other game the cloud provider had on their service.

Ok.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Embrace Extend Extinguish all over again.

Netscape Navigator all over again.

Hopefully this time it's stopped before it takes hold.

It's amazing to me how gullible some of the regulators are, like the EU.

"Microsoft, due to economic forces, has no desire to realistically foreclose CoD on Playstation"....yet this is coming from a $2.5 Trillion Dollar company that can EASILY afford to foreclose CoD on a rival platform by playing a long-term game.

 

[FritzJ92]

How dare Microsoft want to beat Sony.
How dare Sony want to beat Microsoft.
How dare you guys act surprised.

 

[adamsapple]

Cut the crap; that updated post only reaffirms the plan. Do you think they were going to achieve their goal of running PlayStation out of business in a single year? Microsoft are known for multi-year running strategies and playing the long game. That's what they've done with cloud, it's what they're trying to do with Game Pass and cloud gaming. They did the same in eventually squeezing out other competitors in the past.

The large 3P acquisitions are 100% in service of the plan expressed in the 2019 email. The only people wanting to pretend otherwise, don't deserve to have a seat at the table discussing this (IMO).

Posts like this are exactly why I'm requesting the update lol. You've gone full bore, head first.

OP:

Because it supposedly shows an Xbox exec saying that the plan around buying Activision is to put PlayStation out of business

Update:

A Microsoft rep shares a significant update to this. While they still can't divulge the contents of the email, they're able to now say that it was sent in 2019 That means that whatever anti-PlayStation sentiment/strategy it may contain preceded MS' offer for Activision

I hope you can connect the dots and figure out which part should be amended.

 

[Kacho]

How dare Microsoft want to beat Sony.
How dare Sony want to beat Microsoft.
How dare you guys act surprised.

My. God.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

How dare Microsoft want to beat Sony.
How dare Sony want to beat Microsoft.
How dare you guys act surprised.

of course Microsoft wants Sony to leave the gaming market. Sony would love Microsoft to leave too. They are both big companies focused purely on profit and greed. They don't care about competition. If either Microsoft or Sony left the gaming market then the ones to lose out would be us the consumers.

People need to realise this. Sony/Microsoft are not your friend and they don't give a shit about you or what you want. Just keep giving them money.

 

[Fatal Chuck Yeager]

The issue of not being able to see the full context of the email aside, this isn't much different form the years of discussion and stories interviews about Sony until the late 2000's. Microsoft being caught allegedly attempting the same thing many years later being news is questionable. Especially since this is Microsoft we are talking about here.

But from the looks of things almost everything involving Microsoft is news now no matter how small.

 

[IFireflyl]

Mods, can we unban SenjutsuSage for a few days so that he can help us to understand the positive spin that we're missing?

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I hope you can connect the dots and figure out which part should be amended.

“Don’t worry judge. That person I tried to rape and murder? That was a few years ago, so I take it back”

 

[Chronicle]

Yikes. I mean we all know it's true but that's why we can't have monopolies.

 

[Crayon]

Posts like this are exactly why I'm requesting the update lol. You've gone full bore, head first.

OP:


Update:


I hope you can connect the dots and figure out which part should be amended.

That really doesn't change anything. An update that would change things is an email afterwards saying "You know what, that was a stupid idea of mine. Disregard. Let's buy those publishers to give gamers more choices instead."

 

[CatLady]

It can mean any number of things, Booty could have been talking about acquiring Double Fine to destroy Sony for all we know.

But it completely changes the context of how the thing was first reported, even Totilo has since retracted and apologized for wording it that way.

Booty could have been talking about what to order for lunch in 2023 based on that page of black boxes obliterating all text from 2019. That is the proof of this newest Xbox conspiracy???? This shit is hilarious, I can't stop laughing.

 

[lughnasadh123]

At least we can drop the pretenses now.

 

[adamsapple]

“Don’t worry judge. That person I tried to rape and murder? That was a few years ago, so I take it back”

christ on a stick, man.

 

[Knightime_X]

Well you have fun in that rhetorical dead end of yours.

That doesn't matter.
Things are happening here and now.

 

[RoboFu]

And??? Idk any competitor that says .. okay let’s go and be second! Okay everyone in on 3 …

 

[Hendrick's]

Posts like this are exactly why I'm requesting the update lol. You've gone full bore, head first.

OP:


Update:


I hope you can connect the dots and figure out which part should be amended.

Facts won't slow the Xbox hate train down.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Facts won't slow the Xbox hate train down.

one week after the greatest Xbox showcase ever just for the persecution complex to return?

 

[ZehDon]

“Don’t worry judge. That person I tried to rape and murder? That was a few years ago, so I take it back”

I thought the bar was low - but here we are, playing limbo in hell.

 

[Spitfire098]

Facts won't slow the Xbox hate train down.

 

[Crayon]

That doesn't matter.
Things are happening here and now.

Besides that not following from anything we said, I know you are not overly concerned with sticking to the situation at hand.

If Sony could snap their fingers to remove Xbox they would.
Also Sony...

 

[Nydius]

Facts won't slow the Xbox hate train down.

"Facts"...

Just because the document predates the acquisition attempt doesn't mean shit. It goes to intent. And a pattern of behavior that can be easily proven with regards to the Bethesda acquisition, Phil's initial statement that they weren't going to take away games from PlayStation, only to turn around and do precisely that the moment the ink was dry on the merger.

The facts are Microsoft is attempting to use their extreme monetary valuation that Sony cannot match in an attempt to drive out their competition.
With a pattern of behavior that proves it.

Spare me your persecution complex nonsense.
Microsoft is being the arrogant, anti-competitive, "fuck your anti-trust" Microsoft of years past.

 

[Hendrick's]

one week after the greatest Xbox showcase ever just for the persecution complex to return?

Showcase just made it worse due to fomo.

 

[Silver Wattle]

Fuck Apple.
Also fuck Google

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Showcase just made it worse due to fomo.

made the persecution complex worse?....Fomo for what?

MS drooping the ball again and all those games being cancelled, delayed or redfailed?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Facts won't slow the Xbox hate train down.

Should donate write to a congressman.

 

[Knightime_X]

Besides that not following from anything we said, I know you are not overly concerned with sticking to the situation at hand.

I'm just waiting for MS and Activision to finish things up and get the ball rollin.
Getting close.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I'm just waiting for MS and Activision to finish things up and get the ball rollin.
Getting close.

I’m looking forward to Activision collecting a $3B payout from Microsoft as well

 

[FrankWza]

Cut the crap; that updated post only reaffirms the plan. Do you think they were going to achieve their goal of running PlayStation out of business in a single year? Microsoft are known for multi-year running strategies and playing the long game. That's what they've done with cloud, it's what they're trying to do with Game Pass and cloud gaming. They did the same in eventually squeezing out other competitors in the past.

The large 3P acquisitions are 100% in service of the plan expressed in the 2019 email. The only people wanting to pretend otherwise, don't deserve to have a seat at the table discussing this (IMO).

 

[bender]

christ on a stick, man.

Two sticks, actually. In a cross pattern.

 

[Nothing1234]

So we have gone from “it’s not true” to “it was 2019”.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Anyway why is this news? Of course the purchase is made to put Sony out of business. Do we all think Sony signed a deal to keep FF16 off of Xbox just for shits and giggles?

The end game for all of these companies is to be The Only #1.

FTFY.