Onlinehero
Member
Alright US, you're not allowed to be a country anymore.
If only Obama had been the one to go all out dictator.
If only Obama had been the one to go all out dictator.
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Axios: Trump is pulling U.S. out of Paris climate deal
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Dr Funfrock
Member
Fucking piece of shit.
You'll get hit by more and harder tropical storms but hopefully one of them hits Mar-A-Lago.
You'll get hit by more and harder tropical storms but hopefully one of them hits Mar-A-Lago.
nintendoman58
Member
It all depends just how much money other people are making compared to how much they're making.
Stubborn people won't be in power forever.
No? I'm trying to explain that people will all end up following the money eventually. This isn't a question of political morals but of business decisions.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
There are plenty of red states that have a large portion of their energy produced by wind and solar.
The issue they have is portions of their economy are based around fossil fuel export.
Bigger issue at hand is this makes the world far less trusting of the US and absolutely weakens negotiating power in the future, considering other actors can point at the US's ability to elect an irrational leader.
The legality of leaving the deal is long. Trump was being told to stay in the deal for most likely a few reasons. It would have been easier to stay in and coast through it, making minimum commitments, and Republicans actually know that it's a fair deal, even if they have created a following and publicly denounce such climate action.
Trump can't stop the second half of the issue with renewables becoming the de-facto energy source of the future. The issue has been replacing aging and not so aging fossil fuel infrastructure with renewables, which is costly to do when you're telling states to replace plants that aren't through their lifespan. However, lack of government action can slow such a process down, even with the frankly insane drop in prices the last five years, as well as the future.
It's yet to be seen what the ramifications of backing out of the deal will be, some scientists say that other counties will still stay committed, some say that it could have a ripple effect when it comes time for the next negotiations. Short term, emissions aren't going to shoot up and we've already had three years of near zero global emissions growth. The long term ramifications of such actions are yet to be seen, with obvious reason.
Not sure that's accurate. More like 13th.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
As usual, thanks America for fucking is over.
Well there was that sinkhole so the planet is trying.
Lord Frieza
Member
On the flip, when I go to the local theater, there is a message playing before the previews about how windmills are terrible, there's no proof they are effective, and are just plain ugly, all accompanied by dire, sour music. It was against some proposition outside my voting county to switch an area to clean energy. Basically painted the whole idea as the worst possible thing on Earth.
Calm Mind
Member
#TeamKathyGriffin
To clarify I am talking about nominal GDP.
I know that, but we don't really consider Monaco, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg etc. to be rich in terms of global influence and as part of the global economy. I am not speaking of how much the people have, as with 300 million people, you won't get individual incomes to that level. It is a shame because America is technologically and economically so advanced, yet a great portion of this nation does not comprehend climate change.
FTFY
SporeCrawler
Member
So that is covfefe
Lord Frieza
Member
I don't think you seem to understand the GOP generally puts politics above business. North Carolina, Kansas and Oklahoma are shining examples of this. The GOP in NC was willing to destroy their own economy by digging in even harder just for a bathroom bill no one really cared that much about.
nintendoman58
Member
Damn. When I go to the theaters I see the exact opposite. I live in Canada, and I see messages of scientists talking about climate change to children, saying how this shouldn't be a problem we leave up to them.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Yes
IaN_GAF
Member
Perhaps America should invest some more of her wealth in the education of their children. Might be the only way out of this mess.
Lord Frieza
Member
We just had a large scale protest focused on climate change
What I mean is nominal GDP as overall wealth of the nation, not per capita. I am talking about overall economic strength.
Depending on your state, it isn't. If you go to college they will if you take a relevant class.
By the end of the century 80% of Florida will be underwater.
That's great. One large protest a month is surely making a difference while earth gets destroyed
ReplacementPelican
Member
But why? its bad enough that evolution is contentious but at least I can see the Jesus footprint in why that happens. Climate Change just seems like such a weird thing to decide to take an issue with, I've seen people make some religious arguments but those, to me, feel tacted on rather than the real reason. Is it genuinely just trickle-down lobbying and politicians trying to justify their shitty voting so that, due to the insane partisanship in the States, makes a whole wealth of people decide it doesn't exist?
You're not being a dick, you're just correcting me. In my fervent hatred for Trump in that moment, my brain did do somewhat of a back-flip in terms of GDP and per capita GDP. Still, its largely inexcusable.
But... okay, this may be somewhat of a scarecrow and off-base because in not American but it largely seems like Republicans don't believe in this out of the major parties. They actively repress this information in your education system and then you need to go out of your way to learn about it and - once again, correct me if I'm wrong - then they also complain that college-age liberals are 'snowflakes' who want to avoid contradictory ideas whereas all the while they're trying to suppress information they don't like down to the level of school text books because they don't like the science because it became partisan? Am I wrong?
America needs to invest more in educating it's citizens about global affairs, science and culture outside of it's borders. I agree with you on that. But that is not something half this country values.
Nazgul_Hunter
Member
Well fuck you then, Ivanka. You're not good enough.
Edit: I'm also tired of her wanting to have it both ways. What positive, moderating influence has she had like she was happy to tell anonymously to reporters? None.
Ahh, got ya!
SlickShoesRUCrazy
Member
Ok world, you have a duty to humanity.
Trump is a danger to humanity. You know what to do.
Fuck up his business beyond recognition.
It's the only way he will learn.
Take his golf courses, take his hotels, take all his assets that aren't in the US.
Make sure his name will be synonymous for piece of shit for eternity.
Trump is a danger to humanity. You know what to do.
Fuck up his business beyond recognition.
It's the only way he will learn.
Take his golf courses, take his hotels, take all his assets that aren't in the US.
Make sure his name will be synonymous for piece of shit for eternity.
Lord Frieza
Member
Yeah, it may be required, but in a lot of Southern states they will gloss over it. In both my middle and high schools, my science teachers basically told us not to worry about the sections on climate change and evolution. One of them even told me "they" would have to come and drag him away before he'd ever teach evolution or the big bang. We sent the days that was supposed to be allotted to those subjects watching movies usually.
nintendoman58
Member
Jesus, I know you're pissed, but all public action helps, dude.
peppermints
Member
What do you expect to happen? POTUS to actually listen to the people?
paperboywriter
Member
Exactly this. What the fuck have you done America. What a absolute piece of shit of a president. Shameful
jellies_two
Member
Anyone have a list of everything Obama did?
I really think he is just going down the list the stupid idiot has no original ideas except for undoing whatever Obama did.
I really think he is just going down the list the stupid idiot has no original ideas except for undoing whatever Obama did.
Lord Frieza
Member
You have no idea what you're talking about.
I really don't know why.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Just want to remind people that America election Clinton by a very wide margin on the scale of millions of people.
Do you think the east german government would have caved if their citizens put public pressure on them once a month instead of mass protests every week?
A protest per month with all the shit this administration does is a joke and the GOP won't give a shit about it.
There are so many examples where constant pressure actually changes policy.
Bitching on the internet or protesting once per month will not change policy.
No, you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Trump being in power means America didn't elect Clinton.
It was all California. Let's be honest. The rest of the country let us down.
Come on, way discourage protest.
Keep taking it to the streets and be as loud as you can!
Lord Frieza
Member
And again, you show you have no idea what you're talking about