Just want to remind you that that's irrelevant.
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Axios: Trump is pulling U.S. out of Paris climate deal
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Just want to remind you that that's irrelevant.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
America elected Clinton, the electoral college elected Trump based on 100K people across three states.
No it isn't, America by majority selected a rational leader, something that's relevant when talking about an entire nation and the actions of a government and blaming the populace for "electing" that government.
How about you bring some actual arguments instead of posting this shit
This guy gets it. We need people in front of the White House 24/7.
Chuckie
Member
I want to remind you that while a majority of Americans voted for Clinton, America elected Trump.
nintendoman58
Member
LOL.
China JUST built the world's biggest solar farm. They're not going to stop because of a stupid move by Trump.
ramoisdead
Member
As edgy as that shit was, she did it to a plastic model and didn't hurt anyone.
What Trump is doing is potentially killing lives.
When election system is build around electoral college system then it's how elections are ran and elected President chosen.
America elected Trump.
And yes, it fucks with my mind big time that in US it doesn't matter what majority wants when it comes to Presidential election.
ShironRedshift
Member
Coward. Of course he waits until he comes back home from Europe to say this. Can't even say it to their faces, that's how little courage or conviction is his supposed ideals he has. What a pathetic, sad individual.
Lord Frieza
Member
*Sigh*
Okay, time to pull out my post about this the other day, when everyone dissed protesting in America.
It's much harder than you realize to just go out and protest for the vast majority of the country, especially among the capital. So, yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
China is already leading the global transition, and are the main reason global emissions aren't growing. Their coal use has been dropping like a rock. India is more of a wildcard because they are trying to catch up to China and rapidly industrialize and were a sticking point during the negotiations. Even then, India didn't really make much in terms of commitments this round of negotiations.
I know, but even those kind of investments might be temporary. But switching to green energy is pretty much the trend everywhere since it's becoming cheaper by the day.
Well when the gays get married, it makes Jesus cry which causes horrible weather.
It's common sense really.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Vote this administration out, please.
She only cares about her brand and idiots worldwide fawn over her.
Trump is the US President. Trump won the election.
That's the fact. The rest is you trying to feel better about the situation and that's irrelevant.
Go out and protest.
China is very much committed to increase green energy. Not only because it makes sense financially but also because they have to do something about the pollution problems that affect everyday life.
The U.S. exiting the deal is a huge win for China. Like killing the TPP, this move leaves a big leadership vacuum that China will be eager to fill.
somecrazymember
Banned
This is a very sad day for humanity
Yeah this isn't even a discussion. This is akin to there being an incoming meteor impact and the US pulling out of a worldwide effort to stop it to prevent a little taxation.
Yeah and then the US will bomb us like Iraq lol, only US citizens can stop Trump.
You should've just posted that picture of the senator with a snowball. It's equally absurd while also being an accurate representation of a sizable chunk of Americans views on climate change.
It is all about who is in power at the time. It is ultimately up to informing the citizenry of climate change and to combat the false narratives that the fringe peddle to those who are ignorant of the scientific studies and evidence that is out there. We need to actually educate people. China and India have a large amount of people that can be influenced by politicians who espouse lies if it ever comes to that because the rural populations are often very poorly educated, but have great numbers. It is all about who is in power, where the money comes from, and what they want.
Who says you have to go to DC to take part of a protest?
Do you think people in east germany all went to berlin to protest? Go to your local GOP office and protest the shit out of them. If enough people do it the pressure comes to the politicians in DC which in return will put pressure on the president.
You don't need to camp infront of the whitehouse to protest this.
There needs to be constant pressure from everywhere to everyone supporting this. If these people don't feel the pressure nothing will change.
Nazgul_Hunter
Member
Honestly; this is probably mostly bad for the US economy in the long term. Yes climate change is a massive problem; but if you look at the coverage, something feels different now.
Renewable energy is quickly becoming cheaper than fossil fuels. Once that happens, the transition will be quicker than we think.
Other big economies like China are gonna figure out the tech to clean up the environment. They're gonna clean up all the money in that industry and the US will be caught with our pants down.
Renewable energy is quickly becoming cheaper than fossil fuels. Once that happens, the transition will be quicker than we think.
Other big economies like China are gonna figure out the tech to clean up the environment. They're gonna clean up all the money in that industry and the US will be caught with our pants down.
Lord Frieza
Member
It only works when people want to be educated. And I promise you, there is a very large part of America that doesn't want to be educated, especially about topics like this.
Was over my brothers and his wife was complaining about their son learning about global warming and her mother who is a doctor says they will always teach politics in school.
Trumps fans eat this shit up
This is in the wealthiest suburb of PA with the best public school. Which to me proves people don't want to be educated
Trumps fans eat this shit up
This is in the wealthiest suburb of PA with the best public school. Which to me proves people don't want to be educated
Za-Neen-Jya
Member
That's the problem, a large section of GAF thought this was "crossing a line". All while Trump runs roughshod over the entire world. We need to stop playing nice with this guy.
The Jackdog
Member
id like to see a lot of the "go out and protest" crowd actually go out and protest
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Well, for what it's worth: A lot of states work hard on reducing CO2 anyway. Just because the orange turd thinks climate change doesn't exist (or doesn't affect him since he is dead in 20 years anyway) doesn't mean California will start building coal power plants again. I think there was word that 35 of the US states have already gone beyond the requirements of the Paris act. Which makes you wonder, maybe it isn't Putin's goal to keep the US small, maybe he wants to outright tear them apart similar to what happened with the Soviet Union.
Green energy is the future. Whoever leads in this will control the world 50 years from now. Trump, like with all of his foreign policy decisions, is wholesale abdicting US influence on the global stage. Worse, he's so fucking dumb he thinks he's more effective at this than Obama.
What? That's your reasoning? We have protests "pro Europe" organised over different countries with different languages every weekend! Every single city has probably only up to a thousand protesters at a time, but it's the orchestration that gets noted. The States are big but we are not living in the stone ages anymore.
Snap out of your paralysis and get going
Here, to give you an idea.
IaN_GAF
Member
Preach.
Vital Tundra
Member
This makes me incredibly sad... We slowly make steps towards a better future and 1 ignorant cunt and he's dipshit party go to undo it all. The world needs the US to take climate change head on but nooooope. It's just an unproven theory.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Yes, because what I'm saying is trying to make me feel better about the situation by talking about the cultural and political split in this country that is so large it's crippling our ability to govern and take reasonable action. That we have a technology in the internet that has crippled reason and allowed for absolute nonsense to spread like wildfire and create literal fake realities of our world all for the sake of personal bubbles to feel right and entitled to our own facts.
I feel so much better now!
Yes, Clinton won the popular vote by roughly 2.9 million people, which is a lot of people, but as of 2012 the American voter population was about 235,248,000 people.
Going by those numbers that's a 1.2% margin, which is very slim.
What I'm saying is this: a disgusting number of people in this country are fucking us over.
Any way you slice it, half of the voting populatuon made this happen either through ignorance, spite or apathy.
Going by those numbers that's a 1.2% margin, which is very slim.
What I'm saying is this: a disgusting number of people in this country are fucking us over.
Any way you slice it, half of the voting populatuon made this happen either through ignorance, spite or apathy.
Mr.Shrugglesã
Banned
What next president?
Trump is pretty much the last dying gasp of the baby boomers and their failed policies. It sucks now but it'll get better.
Captain Smoker
Member
On the other hand, renewable energy helps countries to be more independent from other countries?
Dr Funfrock
Member
I read somewhere that the entire worlds population could fit in Texas so there's plenty of room, but not for nature.
Progress that have been made in this field in the recent decade is pretty astounding and a lot of contries invest heavily now that's both cheaper and more efficient.
---and then we have the US where scientists are silenced and have years of important climate research data deleted to double down on coal and oil.
People have been flooding the phone lines of local GOP offices and protesting outside since Trump got elected. They don't care because they still see no proof that their constituents won't vote for the person with an R next to their name when they get in the voting booth. Protesting means jackshit. Voting these people out is the only thing that will.