Skinny Pete
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Trump is not only horrible for the United States he's awful for the planet. Fuck this orange turd. We need to get this pos out!
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Axios: Trump is pulling U.S. out of Paris climate deal
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Lord Frieza
Member
You can move the goalposts, but the overall issues are still the same. With poor public transportation, and a large, often time crushing workload (I was working 50-60 hours a week until recently), it's not nearly as easy to just jump out and go somewhere to protest as it is in a lot of countries. There's a reason these centralized protests are being done the way they are, it's just not something you can really understand without understanding the overall size of America. It's not comparable to Germany, France, South Korea, etc.
metalslimer
Member
What does this mean?
Anyway hopefully the rest of the world puts the US in its place.
I think it's one of the safer things we can assume to be true.
Nazgul_Hunter
Member
Which is great. More governments staying out of other governments' hair because they can provide good services for their people is what we should want.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Ugh.....horrible decision. Trump is garbage.
Yeah continue finding excuses and complain about him on NeoGaf.
Flooding the phone lines is a great first step and what i'm saying is if the pressure stays constant they will have to change their policy. It doesn't happen over night, that's why we need constant pressure.
In other words "It's toooooo haaardddd.". Seriously protesting means making sacrifices for the greater good. Nobody says, it's easy, safe or fast. Through the America history people were willing to take the sacrifice and tried to change something. Now things should be more easier, thanks to newer technology ... But it looks like it became harder.
people who didn't vote, people who never show up for midterm, people that allow such a completely idiotic system to be in place, those are the ones that should be blamed right after Trump and the people who voted for him. but now we've pretty much counted for the vast majority of people in the US.
Lord Frieza
Member
You missed a key part that applies to Europe that doesn't apply here: good and relatively cheap public transportation. It makes a big difference. I don't need to snap out of anything, you just need to actually understand what living in America is actually like before preaching about it.
Right, there's a silver lining to this, which is that states, cities, and private-sector businesses are taking increasingly bigger steps toward energy efficiency and cutting CO2 emissions. The federal government reneging on its climate action responsibilities doesn't mean that the U.S. as a whole is doing nothing about climate change.
To a certain extent, this is what I mean. China will be totally self sufficient, and we'll still be reliant on other places for oil. Being reliant on shit like oil gives us no bargaining room when talking to countries like Saudi Arabia.
God bless Sweden and Germany for leading this charge, since the "most powerful nation" doesn't seem to think the planet is a priority.
As a Canadian citizen, this was the one issue he's made a decision on so far that affects ALL OF US, not just the assholes who put him in office.
Can't express in words how fucking mad I am right now.
As a Canadian citizen, this was the one issue he's made a decision on so far that affects ALL OF US, not just the assholes who put him in office.
Can't express in words how fucking mad I am right now.
And selfishness.
These are the same "fuck you got mine" and "what does this do for me" people.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
IE Western Europe not being under the foot of Putin for their natural gas supplies.
RPGCrazied
Member
Nothing matters anymore. You can literally beat the shit out of a reporter and get elected to congress. You really think they care about this? Specially since Trump has said it was all a hoax?
test_account
XP-39C²
There's no way that a foreign country is going to tell the US what they can use of energy, there's no way. That is what Trump said during his campaign.
Like, you are not able to leave your couch?
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Given what Trump said in recent years and what the GOP stands for, did anyone actually expect something else?
Trump is just doing what he said he would do. And in that sense, he is doing what people who voted for him wanted him to do.
Trump is just doing what he said he would do. And in that sense, he is doing what people who voted for him wanted him to do.
benicillin
Banned
States and the private sector are already moving towards renewable energy. He can't stop progress.
You seem to have enough time to discuss this on NeoGaf. Have you called your local GOP office today or is that too hard?
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
A few million americans, not even the majority, fuck up in a major way and the rest of the world has to pay the price with them for generations to come. Bravo.
The Republican Party is a fucking disgrace.
The Republican Party is a fucking disgrace.
Captain Smoker
Member
I understand.
But 2050 is so far away that Trump is just going to be a memory. (hopefully..)
While the shit that he does now is troublesome, I believe that the US is going to steadily increase it's renewable energy anyway, Europe even more so.
If every country is someday self-sufficient we hopefully have a lot of problems solved.
Lord Frieza
Member
You resort to this then, when you have no other rebuttal I guess. I didn't vote for Trump, I vote in all elections, local and federal, and I donate a fairly substantial amount to various charities and activist groups that help fight his agenda, and I recently started donating to the DNC and DCCC. So yeah, I am just complaining about him on NeoGAF. What the fuck are you doing outside bitching about people not passing your dammed purity tests for activity?
Too hard? No, that's not all of it, it's also incredibly expensive. But I'm sorry that money is a problem for me. If you are willing to donate some of your vast fortune to me so I don't have to worry about work and funds, I'll be in DC every week.
thesaucetastic
Unconfirmed Member
How the fuck to we stop him?
I hope the rest of the world threatens to sanction us to death which'll pressure businesses to tell Trump to back the fuck off. Fuck.
I hope the rest of the world threatens to sanction us to death which'll pressure businesses to tell Trump to back the fuck off. Fuck.
benicillin
Banned
You vote in the midterms and the general election. Volunteer if you're able.
Lord Frieza
Member
I think you missed the post where I said I worked 50-60 hours a day. Hint: I don't work from my couch.
Most of my GOP representatives have disconnected their phone lines.
Phew, I was worried for a second there that Ivanka wouldn't be able to come out of this with her moderate cred intact!
Bitch Pudding
Member
This is a desaster, for the US.
Because to be fair, violating the Paris agreement's targets isn't really that much of a deal anyhow.
But for the energy industry in the US this decision is catastrophic, because it completely destroyed the predictability of the US market & leadership. In this politicial environment companies in the US don't have the stability they need to justify massive spendings.
This is exactly why countries like Australia, Canada, China and - yes - Russia will not withdraw from the Paris agreement - there won't be a domino effect. The US is alone with this, together with Syria, if I remember correctly.
So, long story short: Congrats once again America, you played yourself.
Because to be fair, violating the Paris agreement's targets isn't really that much of a deal anyhow.
But for the energy industry in the US this decision is catastrophic, because it completely destroyed the predictability of the US market & leadership. In this politicial environment companies in the US don't have the stability they need to justify massive spendings.
This is exactly why countries like Australia, Canada, China and - yes - Russia will not withdraw from the Paris agreement - there won't be a domino effect. The US is alone with this, together with Syria, if I remember correctly.
So, long story short: Congrats once again America, you played yourself.
Please share your time stopping secret!!
somecrazymember
Banned
In the meantime, big parties are getting prepared at oil companies.
Anyway, guess I'm gonna go eco/bio/vegetarian.
Anyway, guess I'm gonna go eco/bio/vegetarian.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
By the end of this run he may go down as one of the most despised individual in world history.
Lord Frieza
Member
acheron_xl
Member
We had a foreign power intervene to put him in, maybe we'll get a foreign power intervening to take him out.
thehypocrite
Member
The world needs to look upon themselves for leadership. This USA administration has no vision for the world.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
Imagine being such a despicable, incompetent asshole that when the Pope begs you to think about the future of the planet, you think he's lying to you.
Honestly anyone that actually believes that Ivanka or kushner bring some liberal voice are deluding themselves. They are both frauds and constant articles like this are just fake news spread specifically by them to make themselves not look like terrible human beings. I wouldn't even be surprised if she didn't even mention it to her father
I'll be protesting when he comes to Germany in July. Police expect atleast 200k protesters. About the same as in DC for the climate protest a month ago.
I'll have to drive there for 45 minutes after working(45h/week). Unfortunately i don't have as much say on the stupid shit your country does like a lot of people here on GAF.
benicillin
Banned
It's okay, as long as we stop him from talking to anyone after Tillerson he won't pull out.
I bet, anybody who ever protested, was swimming in money and just could take the day off. Just say, you're too lazy to do anything yourself or that you're not faced with the prolems of your country, since you still have enough money for yourself. At least then we could finish this discussion and it would be much less hypocritical, then you defending your good will.
