Napalm_Frank
Member
Man, this is so shitty considering how piss easy it would be for them to implement it combined with the rise of DS4 as a PC controller. No excuse if this is the case.
Batman: Arkham Knight - Review Thread
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Man, this is so shitty considering how piss easy it would be for them to implement it combined with the rise of DS4 as a PC controller. No excuse if this is the case.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Heads up
The update for the X1 is 3.8 Gigs
The update for the X1 is 3.8 Gigs
dose Sony officially support the DS4 on PC yet?
No and I doubt it ever will.
Via Kotaku: "Once the credits do march across the screen, Arkham Knight divulges a new, more annoying surprise: If you want to see the full ending, Batman will need to hunt down everyone in the game, take down every watchtower, eliminate every guard station, collect every one of those Riddler trophies youve been trying your best to ignore since 2009."
GODDAMNIT.
will watch on Youtube after I finish the game.
Great!
Nope, it sucks but I use the DS4 anyway. I don't even think about button prompts anymore, I just react with muscle memory. I'll take the DS4 over the Xbone controller any day thanks to those so-called 'bumpers'. Crikey.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Yep. This shit has never been done in a satisfying way. It's always just some 10 second tease of some sort.
Look up Inputmapper or DS4WIndows.
You'll have to put up with Xbox button prompts, but it works flawlessly with both and allows for custom use of the touch pad which is really nifty.
Via Kotaku: "Once the credits do march across the screen, Arkham Knight divulges a new, more annoying surprise: If you want to see the full ending, Batman will need to hunt down everyone in the game, take down every watchtower, eliminate every guard station, collect every one of those Riddler trophies youve been trying your best to ignore since 2009."
GODDAMNIT.
Music to my ears this, 100%ing Arkham games is 2nd only the The Last of Us for my gaming nirvana.
Xbone controller is fine and just works
Suck for Sony to lose out on accessory sales and trying to define their controller as "the" one to always use
Spring-Loaded
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Via Kotaku: "Once the credits do march across the screen, Arkham Knight divulges a new, more annoying surprise: If you want to see the full ending, Batman will need to hunt down everyone in the game, take down every watchtower, eliminate every guard station, collect every one of those Riddler trophies you’ve been trying your best to ignore since 2009."
GODDAMNIT.
They can speak for themselves about the Riddler trophies and other completionist content. If I enjoy the core of a game, then doing the side content should mean I'm experiencing more of the core gameplay in different contexts, ideally.
Rocksteady showed they know how to make the Riddler trophies and other side content interesting/challenging to get and they know how to create an intersting meta game to encourage players to find them all using normal gameplay mechanics (fight guys, interrogate some for info, show locations for Riddler stuff, repeat). It was a collect-a-thon in Arkham City, but one that was about as well done as is possible.
If that stuff doesn't interest me, then I don't have to do it outside the main game. If I somehow care enough about the game to want to see all the endgames that come after getting 100%, but I don't want to actually do all of that, I can just look up the content/cutscenes/etc. on Youtube. Just a weird source of contention someone would have if they like the core game, and one that should be inconsequential if they don't like it.
Exactly. If that stuff sounds unappealing, just don't take part in it.
I actually like Riddler stuff. My issue is, locking away the "full" ending behind side stuff. Making that something you have to do after the game is over. I haven't played the game yet, so I can't judge this decision. But if the game's script has issues, and the story itself feels unsatisfying, this will be an even bigger issue for me. And honestly, 100% a game and doing all the side stuff, is something I like to do at my own leisure. And I don't always have the time, or motivation to always 100% a game. That's great for people that do. And I'm not saying that is a bad thing in itself.
But locking away a "full" ending behind that, just not a fan of this from a design choice. I dunno.
EDIT: I'm going to just wait and see. I don't think it's fair to make assumptions without having actually played the game. Sorry about that. I'll wait and see how they actually do this.
ProvenDeadly
Member
Is it possible this game releases a few hours early like The Witcher did?
Krappadizzle
Member
Via Kotaku: "Once the credits do march across the screen, Arkham Knight divulges a new, more annoying surprise: If you want to see the full ending, Batman will need to hunt down everyone in the game, take down every watchtower, eliminate every guard station, collect every one of those Riddler trophies you’ve been trying your best to ignore since 2009."
GODDAMNIT.
Goddamn music to my ears. I had a great time with the Riddler puzzles/challenges in City, more so than Arkham Asylum, but felt slightly annoyed when I found them all as there was no reward or real reason to do them other than for completionist beats. Now there is a valid reason to do them all. Now that is not to say I'll like all the puzzles/races I come across, but I"m glad that there is a reason for doing them now.
Is this coming out tonight on PC or tomorrow?
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Steam version says it unlocks in 25 hours.
JigglesBunny
Banned
Via Kotaku: "Once the credits do march across the screen, Arkham Knight divulges a new, more annoying surprise: If you want to see the full ending, Batman will need to hunt down everyone in the game, take down every watchtower, eliminate every guard station, collect every one of those Riddler trophies youve been trying your best to ignore since 2009."
GODDAMNIT.
People need to understand this in context. It's not like the game is going to end on a purposeless cliffhanger or cut off mid sentence, forcing you to do side activities to see the rest of the ending.
It's a complete, whole ending to the series and then there's basically what amounts to an after-credit or alternate ending for if you have completed the content which, like Spring said, shouldn't be a burden if you love the game and planned to complete it anyways and otherwise, it'll be on YouTube by the afternoon.
I wouldn't worry.
EroticSushi
Member
It's a really weird decision to be honest. Why would you hide the true ending behind getting 100% and give those who finish the game normally a "bad" one?
The "true" ending should be there when you finish the game normally and then add an extra bonus ending to those who finish it at 100%.
Summer Haze
Banned
I think I can safely say that this game has one of the most atmospheric and immersive cities I've ever played in, despite not feeling the most 'alive'. And the traversal itself is so much fun once you start getting the hang of it. Stylishly timing dive bombs so that Batman swoops underneath a bridge as you pull back on the left stick, maintaining a glide for hundreds of meters while going through small spaces between buildings and large structures, launching yourself out of the batmobile over a city filled with neon lights as a lightning bolt streaks across the sky and lights up every raindrop. It just never gets old.
And I think the art style and general aesthetic of this world ranks above the Burton movies for me, which I never would have thought possible.
And I think the art style and general aesthetic of this world ranks above the Burton movies for me, which I never would have thought possible.
I mean, why is it music to your ears to lock away the full ending doing this? If they hadn't done that, you would still have the choice of tackling all the side stuff you already like. That never changed regardless. I just don't get why locking away a full ending after the game is over (on a narrative level), is music to your ears...that they attached that on top of something you were going to do anyways, and enjoy.
I mean, if you already enjoyed all of these things, and get the joy out of completing everything, I don't know why you need a "real reason" to do it. Isn't THE reason, because it's like actually fun to do?
EDIT: actually, your view point is valid. I mean, you are basically saying that, locking away something as pivotal as a full ending, gives you a reason to 100% the game. That is why you love it. I don't know though. I just feel like, the side content/puzzles should stand on their own. They should be something you do, because they are great gameplay sections, and something you enjoy. Tying something as important as the full ending to all of that, just seems I don't know. Never been a big fan of this decision. I guess. Oh well.
Even if it were officially supported, it would require an app to edit the keys.
Yeh, it's not plug and play, but people on PC shouldn't have any trouble installing a tiny app.
I do agree that support should be official, though. BE really nice to see proper support in game with the correct prompts on screen.
Hopefully you learned your lesson. Don't go on reddit.
Spring-Loaded
Member
If the whole story's bad and you don't like the side content, then you get to ditch it all early (apparently there's a non-final ending at some point).
If you like the story and want to see the full ending, but don't like the side content, you can look it up once you beat teh core game.
If you like it all, then it's all gravy. I don't see where it's a big problem unless you don't like playing the game at all. The only other explanation is a compulsion to 100% a game regardless of whether it's enjoyable, but that doesn't seem as if it would be a fault of this or any game.
Maybe we should see this "true" ending first before we condem it?
I'm almost certain it will be a little extra, like a post credits scene amount of extra, I very much doubt it will even be worth the effort and is intended as a little extra surprise for those who 100% it.
Krappadizzle
Member
If you know the basic tennants of Batman's story you'll be fine. You'll get much more out of it if you played the previous games, but I highly doubt you'll miss much by not playing the previous games. That said, they are excellent games, and probably a good taste of what you can expect from Arkham Knight.
Spring-Loaded
Member
How often are unlock times accurate on Steam?
The flip side of that, I guess, is it is a reward for all those people like me who don't see a 12 hour game but a 100+ hours game full of content which they want to complete every bit of. Getting a little extra story for all that is a great bonus, for me anyway.
viveks86
Member
May be it made sense because it was impossible to have that ending and continue having post-game content? This way Batman's story ends depending on the state of the world. Ultimately, it's just another cutscene that you will get to see online anyway. So it seems like a non-issue
Doubt it. That was just CD Projekt being cool.
jim2point0
Banned
The Witcher 3 didn't release early. It was released everywhere at exactly the same time, but the release date was targeting the timezone in Poland.
Most games don't base their release dates on the timezone in Poland though.
That could very well be true. I mean, whatever the FULL ENDING is, might require you to have actually done those other things, to actually make sense. Great point.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
its pretty minor tbf, happens early on
99% of the time. Valve still has to change release states itself, so there have been times where the countdown timer expired yet the game was still locked, but it's never lasted long. That being said, if WB has asked Valve to set region-specific unlock times, then that should happen some time today.
Krappadizzle
Member
I hate you. Why you do this to me Hero_of_the_Day?
I completely understand where you and others are coming from. And to a degree you are right. But you could also make the same argument the other way, you could always just watch it on Youtube.
It was like this throughout the 90's with RPG's and I find it a bit refreshing to be rewarded for all the hard work. When I played a game that I didn't get all the collectables for knowing I wouldn't get the full ending, I was fine with that. It gave me a reason to play it again in the future if a game was good enough.
In this day in age where access to information is very very quick, I don't see why those who put the time and effort in shouldn't be rewarded. It'll literally be less than a few hours after the game is released before the "true" ending is unlocked anyways and posted on YT. So it'd take someone all of 5 seconds to type out "Batmana Arkham Knight true riddler ending" to see it. It's a fair compromise to reward die-hard players with something other than a bar that say's 100%.
That's not to speak for the actual quality of these particular puzzles/races. Good content should be able to stand on it's own regardless. And if these are all shit puzzles/races, it'd be a chore to get through and I'd be a annoyed and probably not do the challenges if they all suck.
CyberChulo
Member
Does this game make use of the DS4 speaker?
Looks good to me, nice that it appears solid on all platforms.
Summer Haze
Banned
Yes. Anyone that contacts you through your comms and thugs having conversations in the street all play through the speaker in the controller.
viveks86 actually brought up a good point, that it might ONLY make sense, if you do the side stuff. Like from a story perspective, the cut scene/story element only might make sense AFTER you take care of all the other side stuff in the world.
So they couldn't have shown you that in the main story, as it wouldn't make sense if you still hadn't taken care of the other things. That's a great point.
Just wondering, but how do you have the context to explain this a bit? Did you review it, or do you work for Rocksteady? If it really does amount to that this doesn't sound nearly as bad.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Sounds like Kotaku is discussing a quick after credit scene that probably plays very little into the overall narrative. I think people need to chill.
Haven't even gotten my DLC code from Nuuvem yet, let alone the one for the full game...
I got my DLC code, but then they took it away.
It's back to "Key available on release".
Bah, i won't obsess over it, when it's ready, it's ready.
Yeah I sure learned my lesson. Shame on me how could I have ever even thought about going on Reddit? Good thing I have GAF to tell me what to do!
JigglesBunny
Banned
I have two friends who completed the game, one's had it for almost 5 days and got 100%, one did no side stuff at all.
I asked them, without spoiling the ending for me, if they could clarify it. They were both satisfied with the ending and the completionist said it wasn't nearly as essential as Kotaku made it sound, it's basically an alternate/tagged on ending.
That's all I know since I didn't want to be spoiled but they made it sound insignificant.
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