Tygeezy
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I didn't think spider-man would be possible in VR because I didn't think you could make combat anything like the insomniac games. This game proved me wrong. I think any gameplay can be converted to VR after seeing this.
Batman: Arkham Shadow impressions videos:
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Tygeezy
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It might be a couple days. I'm going to opening night for an NBA game tonight, and I have two little kids so this is something I play exclusively when they are asleep. I'll report back when I can though.
Guardian Monkey
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But it isn't actually. The last two games I played was Spider-Man 2 and just finished a replay of Arkham Asylum. Spider-Man, Miles, and Venom are the same thing over and over. Not going to even get into how boring the Mary Jane parts are. Then the rest of traversing to the other side of the city every time. It's repetitive and twice as long as should be for the game play. Batman has multiple approaches for handling enemies. Spider-Man is faster paced but really has no extension or experience that is elevated over the Arkham games.
Now on to Shadow. This VR version is about as true as you can get to the Arkham games with current day VR. Combat makes sense within the limitations of standalone VR. Heck even the limited fov makes sense seeing that you are wearing a cowl. Is it perfect no, is it as smooth as it's 2d counterpart, no. But it's great extension into being in the VR world and is one of the best implementations of VR to date.
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Guardian Monkey
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I did this at 150% I'll take the hit on game time for the graphics as I'm only going to be putting 1-1:30 at a time anyhow. Looks a good bit better than the default settings.
Romulus
Member
Yeah the immersion of VR obliterates the non VR batman games though.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Game stopped working for me after the update. Stuck on the batman logo screen. Anyone else?
Romulus
Member
Did you update and launch the game without restarting? Try again with a fresh start.
I haven't played since the update.
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MR ARCADE FOREVER
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I restarted and still didn't work. I had to uninstall then reinstall the game. It's working now. Thank you though!
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I finally had a chance to start the game. Holy shit. It's the real deal.
FoxMcChief
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It's crazy what this game accomplishes. The power fantasy of being Batman is not something that I thought would be possible in this way. I'm taken back to my childhood when playing this. I was a huge Batman fan when I was a young boy. I'm happy that boy got to play this game.
The combat is soooooooooo satisfying.
I'm using the Quest Optimizer. My resolution is around 150% and I have the experimental contrast set to about 25%. Game looks and performs great.
The combat is soooooooooo satisfying.
I'm using the Quest Optimizer. My resolution is around 150% and I have the experimental contrast set to about 25%. Game looks and performs great.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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The resolution bump makes a huge difference. I'm also playing at 150%. Looks great.
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FoxMcChief
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The controls just feel natural, I can't wait to play more. I'm exploring every knock and cranny. Im reading everything and picking up the phone and making the calls to the various phone numbers littered around.
This is a Batman playground where we ARE BATMAN!
This is a Batman playground where we ARE BATMAN!
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Holly crap at the part where you
break in the movie theater by gliding and kicking through the fucking screen!
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MR ARCADE FOREVER
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I didn't call anyone... Does anything special happen or do you only hear audios!?
Romulus
Member
I only have the option to turn the black level contrast on/off
Romulus
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I just played a round with my family and let them try combat. Their first reaction was they couldn't stop marveling at the world and environment. That hasn't really happened with other standalone games.
Once I taught them the basics of combat they were hooked! The combat loop is simple enough for beginners to have fun, but it really ramps up at higher levels. It's just incredible that a AAA VR game can also have such engaging story and world, but also combat mechanics that are so good that they can be their own mini games and played indefinitely like superhot and others. Burning calories and not even realizing it. lol
Once I taught them the basics of combat they were hooked! The combat loop is simple enough for beginners to have fun, but it really ramps up at higher levels. It's just incredible that a AAA VR game can also have such engaging story and world, but also combat mechanics that are so good that they can be their own mini games and played indefinitely like superhot and others. Burning calories and not even realizing it. lol
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Maybe we're are not in the same place.
After turning on the experimental contrast, then go to accessibility, and there should be a contrast slider there now.
Romulus
Member
When I turn on the experimental contrast, the blacks deepen. I'll try the slider.
ResurrectedContrarian
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as for me, I find Spiderman games to be a pale off-brand imitation of the Arkham franchise. I always have.
In any case, Spiderman/Sony could have easily taken the mantle first here and put their resources behind a full Spiderman VR game on PSVR2... I would pay to experience that. But they clearly didn't care enough to really fund VR experiences. So I'm with Meta on this topic, they're the only ones keeping it going with high quality.
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wkuraido
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Welp, it's official–Arkham Shadow has thoroughly convinced me that I'm too old to hang with these young whipper snappers and their VR technology.
While playing tonight, I was on the level after the sewers where you're running around the streets of Gotham beating up thugs. I was totally sucked into the fantasy. I was Batman: dropping smoke bombs, throwing batarangs, all that jazz. My fists were instruments of justice, and I was loving the power fantasy.
At one point I stepped forward to beat a thug into submission and I got a little too carried away. I was punching him down into the ground, shouting, "I AM JUSTICE!! I AM THE NIGHT!!" and I must have stepped a little too far forward because my next punch to his virtual head connected with my very real FULL can of coke, and I sent it flying across the room at which point it splattered all over the wall.
My partner frantically got up from their chair and said, "holy shit, really??" to which I could only reply, "it's a great game."
10/10 VR experience, just be mindful of your surroundings.
While playing tonight, I was on the level after the sewers where you're running around the streets of Gotham beating up thugs. I was totally sucked into the fantasy. I was Batman: dropping smoke bombs, throwing batarangs, all that jazz. My fists were instruments of justice, and I was loving the power fantasy.
At one point I stepped forward to beat a thug into submission and I got a little too carried away. I was punching him down into the ground, shouting, "I AM JUSTICE!! I AM THE NIGHT!!" and I must have stepped a little too far forward because my next punch to his virtual head connected with my very real FULL can of coke, and I sent it flying across the room at which point it splattered all over the wall.
My partner frantically got up from their chair and said, "holy shit, really??" to which I could only reply, "it's a great game."
10/10 VR experience, just be mindful of your surroundings.
Tygeezy
Member
You might need to get a little a mat and be conservative with your guardian. I have two little ones so this is something I can't play while they are up and running around.Welp, it's official–Arkham Shadow has thoroughly convinced me that I'm too old to hang with these young whipper snappers and their VR technology.
While playing tonight, I was on the level after the sewers where you're running around the streets of Gotham beating up thugs. I was totally sucked into the fantasy. I was Batman: dropping smoke bombs, throwing batarangs, all that jazz. My fists were instruments of justice, and I was loving the power fantasy.
At one point I stepped forward to beat a thug into submission and I got a little too carried away. I was punching him down into the ground, shouting, "I AM JUSTICE!! I AM THE NIGHT!!" and I must have stepped a little too far forward because my next punch to his virtual head connected with my very real FULL can of coke, and I sent it flying across the room at which point it splattered all over the wall.
My partner frantically got up from their chair and said, "holy shit, really??" to which I could only reply, "it's a great game."
10/10 VR experience, just be mindful of your surroundings.
Romulus
Member
Welp, it's official–Arkham Shadow has thoroughly convinced me that I'm too old to hang with these young whipper snappers and their VR technology.
While playing tonight, I was on the level after the sewers where you're running around the streets of Gotham beating up thugs. I was totally sucked into the fantasy. I was Batman: dropping smoke bombs, throwing batarangs, all that jazz. My fists were instruments of justice, and I was loving the power fantasy.
At one point I stepped forward to beat a thug into submission and I got a little too carried away. I was punching him down into the ground, shouting, "I AM JUSTICE!! I AM THE NIGHT!!" and I must have stepped a little too far forward because my next punch to his virtual head connected with my very real FULL can of coke, and I sent it flying across the room at which point it splattered all over the wall.
My partner frantically got up from their chair and said, "holy shit, really??" to which I could only reply, "it's a great game."
10/10 VR experience, just be mindful of your surroundings.
It really does activate that primal side when acting out the combat. Lol.
MarkMe2525
Banned
That a boy. No pain, no gainPlaying hours and hours of No Man's Sky on PSVR1 (non-Pro PS4) gave me my low framerate legs.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Might be my GotY after only two sessions.
nial
Member
I mean, yeah, it is indeed another RE4 Quest 2 situation, which was funded, produced and published by Meta.
Nothing wrong with that, IMO. Quest is basically another console and needs first-party games.
Wonko_C
Member
True true, Armature did that conversion. (Funny enough, they're the Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate devs)
FunkMiller
Banned
FunkMiller
Banned
This is genuinely the first killer VR app since Alyx.
Romulus
Member
I agree. For me, Asgards Wrath 2 is up there too but I'm a sucker for scale and scope in VR games.
I heard the guy from the Electronic Playground saying Batman is better than Alyx. I haven't finished batman yet but that's a tall order.
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FunkMiller
Banned
In some ways yes, in some ways no. Obviously not graphically. But this is a full blown Arkham game in VR. The Arkham games are better than Half Life Alyx, so there you go.
yet_another_alt
Member
Seriously, has anyone ever exclaimed that they really feel like they're Alyx? No, you're just playing as a pair of floating hands. It looks good and the interactivity is unmatched but at the end of the day, Alyx is just another FPS. VR already has a ton of those. Batman on the other hand translates a traditionally third person genre into VR while standing shoulder to shoulder with its greats. The immersion comes not from waving a bottle of liquid around and seeing how light passes through it but by acting as how the character would act. The gameplay translation is phenomenal.
March Climber
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Are quest games able to be modded? I'm asking because I can fully imagine a modder attempting to de-VR this game much like HL: Alyx.
Romulus
Member
I've never heard of modding Quest games. With Alyx is made sense because it was a PC game.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Not really, but you can play some crazy stuff on the Quest via side loading.
FunkMiller
Banned
Arkham Shadow is a good game because it's a good game - it just happens to also be in VR. That's what's needed for VR to be successful. Interesting narratives, good characterisations, exciting gameplay. Same as flat screen games.
There are endless boring, short, basic games/tech demos in VR, but very, very few legitimately good games. Certainly not what would be considered good once you strip away the fact they're in VR.
Boneworks may be a great showcase of VR tech, but its campaign is short and dull. Boneworks is even worse. And Beat Saber isn't going to make VR mainstream. It's a game that loses its lustre fast once the initial thrill of being in VR has passed.
We need more Arkham Shadows. Less Arizona Sunshines.
FunkMiller
Banned
It does, but it mimics the flow state of the flat games quite well. In those, you have to press the right buttons at the right times to counter and attack. The same thing applies here, but obviously implemented in a different way. But the same way you go from one thug to the next in the other games is recreated here as best as it can be. You can be smashing one punk into the ground while looking around for the next one to go after. It's pretty great.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Oh ok that make sense, i also hate free flow combat for the most part so it's understandable not liking this combat system aswell
cyberheater
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Minsc
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Even if you could the first issue is there are no Quest emulators are there? This game does not exist on anything but the headset itself, so you'd need to own the headset to run the game on, then I guess mod it and play it through the flat shared screen output, afaik.
Wonko_C
Member
Alyx is one of the best games but it's a one and done deal. I spent more time playing Pistol Whip during that time. I simply liked that game more.
I judge what my favorite games are based on the fun I had with them and time spent on it (replayability), not graphics, story or immersion. It may be reductive to some but It's what works for me.
I know after beating Arkham's campaign, I'm going to spend much more time trying to master the challenge maps. That's where the real game begins.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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Only one year and the Quest 3 already have three masterpieces, Asgard's Wrath 2, AC and now Batman.