yet_another_alt
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It depends on the FPS for me. 72 FPS and 30 degrees smooth turning feels slow but if I up it to 45 degrees, it feels weird. 90 fps and 45 degree smooth turning feels just right.
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Batman: Arkham Shadow impressions videos:
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FunkMiller
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The biggest compliment I can pay this game is that it absolutely feels like a genuine, 100% Arkham game. Very, very good so far.
Romulus
Member
That's what really blows me away. A 3rd person flat-screen game converted to VR first person and different developers, yet somehow feels like a genuine addition to the franchise.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Played for an hour tonight. Teleport would kill the action. I like how I can Run, Grapple, Slide, Bat wing. Teleport would kill all this.
Game is a lot faster than I thought. Looks good for a native quest 3 game.
It's fun.
I did see several graphical hitches though. Little stutters here and there.
Game is a lot faster than I thought. Looks good for a native quest 3 game.
It's fun.
I did see several graphical hitches though. Little stutters here and there.
FunkMiller
Banned
I'd say that they've implemented the Arkham combat about as well as they could. It's obviously a lot more simplistic than the other games, but the physicality of it makes up for it being a lot easier in terms of inputs. Builds up quite a sweat, if you do it the way you're supposed to 
Predator mode is particularly well done, though. Very much feels like the old games in terms of traversal and stealth mechanics.
I really do think this could be the game that proves you can do a full length, decent campaign in VR (not that this wasn't proved with Alyx of course). It also shows how lazy VR devs have actually been for years. The fact it's taken this long to give us something like this is ridiculous, especially when you consider how limited the hardware is for this game. PCVR should be leaps and bounds ahead of where it is right now. If VR has a future, it's going to be games like this that give it one.
Predator mode is particularly well done, though. Very much feels like the old games in terms of traversal and stealth mechanics.
I really do think this could be the game that proves you can do a full length, decent campaign in VR (not that this wasn't proved with Alyx of course). It also shows how lazy VR devs have actually been for years. The fact it's taken this long to give us something like this is ridiculous, especially when you consider how limited the hardware is for this game. PCVR should be leaps and bounds ahead of where it is right now. If VR has a future, it's going to be games like this that give it one.
cyberheater
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Had a short play late last night. This is gold standard VR. The bar is set very high now.
FunkMiller
Banned
It's Quest 3 exclusive... for now.
amigastar
Member
I have a Quest 3 but i wanna buy it on Steam and not in some Quest 3 shop.
Paperboy
Member
It's unlikely that it will come to Steam (at least not for several years).
cyberheater
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Nope. If you need to play this game you will need a Quest 3/3s/Quest Pro.
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Romulus
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They had planned a day 1 patch that got delayed. Not sure when it's coming now but all the reviews are dinging the game(rightly so) because of the bugs fixes that weren't rolled out in time. So while its getting mostly 8s and 9 scores, it would have very likely been 9s and 10s if they would been more prepared at launch. It's nothing catastrophic but just sort of silly on their part because bugs are the main complaint, and things that can be easily fixed.
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wkuraido
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Completely agree.
Admittedly I'm not a VR superuser, but 2-3 hours with Arkham Shadow leaves me really impressed with the gameplay, storytelling, and graphical fidelity on offer at this price point.
I need to get around to playing Asgard's Wrath II ... (but it'll have to wait until after Metaphor.)
Minsc
Gold Member
This is the way!
Anyone else here using QGO to run this at 150% resolution? Going to go give it a go and some other games this weekend! One day left of QGO being on sale - and it never goes on sale.
Romulus
Member
Be sure to check the in-game box for dynamic resolution if you use a profile to boost the gpu like that.
Minsc
Gold Member
Yup, thanks, got to do that and enable the contrast enhancer in experimental features on the Quest's settings screen. Read that makes a huge difference in darker blacks for this game.
Romulus
Member
Forgot about that contrast enchancer. I read about it being noticeably better.
Improved blacks, 150% resolution on those pancake lenses should look fantastic.
Jack Videogames
Member
Using quest optimizer like this:
150% resolution
GPU Ultra
CPU Very high
FRR standard
72h
Dynamic resolution on
It looks fantastically crisp though I get slowdowns from time to time
Share your configs if you use QO (And if you don't, you should. The best 10E you can spend in the Quest)
150% resolution
GPU Ultra
CPU Very high
FRR standard
72h
Dynamic resolution on
It looks fantastically crisp though I get slowdowns from time to time
Share your configs if you use QO (And if you don't, you should. The best 10E you can spend in the Quest)
Romulus
Member
That seems close to what's being recommended. There was a reddit post where the guy did a video and he was holding the max fps at 150% even during big fights. Do you get sporadic drops or during certain events?
This too could help alot
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Jack Videogames
Member
Sporadic drops. Got a big drop when leaving the sewers for the first time and I get small drops every time I use the hookshot
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Oooh, I had a 30% discount voucher! I'll take that.
SEGAvangelist
Member
I used mine for this game too. Best decision ever. After another couple hours (5 total), I think I can safely say that this is a great game to get people interested in VR. I hope it sells a lot of headsets.
DenchDeckard
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KXVXII9X
Member
I really like Batman Arkham Shadows so far and glad you are excited, but there are a few reasons this game stands above most VR titles. It is an AAA game funded by Meta, where most VR games are very small indie teams. This game is also comprised of veterans with professional voice actors and celebrities. It is also the first real Quest 3 exclusive that we got so far, so of course it looks as good as it does. I thought this was obvious when the Quest 3 was announced. It has a much better chip.I'd say that they've implemented the Arkham combat about as well as they could. It's obviously a lot more simplistic than the other games, but the physicality of it makes up for it being a lot easier in terms of inputs. Builds up quite a sweat, if you do it the way you're supposed to
Predator mode is particularly well done, though. Very much feels like the old games in terms of traversal and stealth mechanics.
I really do think this could be the game that proves you can do a full length, decent campaign in VR (not that this wasn't proved with Alyx of course). It also shows how lazy VR devs have actually been for years. The fact it's taken this long to give us something like this is ridiculous, especially when you consider how limited the hardware is for this game. PCVR should be leaps and bounds ahead of where it is right now. If VR has a future, it's going to be games like this that give it one.
There also have been a steady increase of proper VR campaigns in the last year. Asgard's Wrath 2, Assassin's Creed Nexus, 7th Quest VR, and Resident Evil 4. This year, VR is still getting Metro VR, Alien Incursion, Behemoth, and Wanderer. VR just needs more support to fund games like this with developers really familiar with the medium.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I'm so glad that the game is universally liked/loved.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
This is funny because I just kind of stick my hands a little out and see these flaps in the edge of my view. I can't go full arms out I might smack my wife in the face if she's walking by.What it looks like:
What it actually feels like:
cyberheater
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I can see a lot of TV's and other surrounding objects getting destroyed due to this game. The combat is that intense.
Make sure to set up your guardians people.
Make sure to set up your guardians people.
Romulus
Member
It is, but as much as people are liking it, the gap to move it up to "system seller" status is one patch away. It's still a system seller, but it doesn't reach as far considering the reviews are "great" instead of "exceptional." Sort of dumb that they released the review code with a couple breaking bugs that will be fixed later in the week. It's like you worked on this masterpiece for 4 years to shoot yourself in the foot at launch. It's not that bad, and the problems are fixable, but come on.
If they botched the combat, mood, graphics, or story, it probably wouldn't be fixable. I'll probably just do the challenge modes this week and prepare for the patch.
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FoxMcChief
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
What updated port of Doom 3?
Romulus
Member
Dynamic lightning is one thing.
Minsc
Gold Member
I dunno, it sounds like it launched in a better state than AW2 did - that's what I got for free with my Quest 3. AW2 got some pretty nice patches that fixed all sorts of things, but even now still have some issues where you need to quit and reload the game to continue forward.
Then you probably have to make your peace with not playing it.
They needed to launch the game with the Quest 3S. An additional 3 points or so on Metacritic would not have improved sales in any meaningful way. People can see the reviews are very positive. Glowing, even.
Patches will be in place in time for the major Black Friday and Christmas 2024 sales where the Quest 3S will be expected to fly off the shelves with this bundle.
I don't mean to lionize bugginess In release games, but just putting some perspective to things.
Romulus
Member
My point is they were very close to 10/10 in many reviews. Those scores go viral. Not saying it would skyrocket sales, or that it validates anything, but more exposure is more exposure.
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amigastar
Member
Yes, i probably will do that. Idk maybe i will buy it one day we'll see.
Romulus
Member
Definitely. But in defense of that game, its probably the biggest game I've played in a decade at over 90 hours with sprawling vistas. Bigger scope than I've seen in any VR game and most non VR games.
Romulus
Member
Granted this running at a lower resolution and much lower framerate. Not sure how the workaround is accomplished.
And the poster admitted on reddit that he's very tolerate to fps drops lol.
And this just the tutorial. Big fights would probably tank the fps to the 30s
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And the poster admitted on reddit that he's very tolerate to fps drops lol.
And this just the tutorial. Big fights would probably tank the fps to the 30s
Quest 2 footage .mp4
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Jack Videogames
Member
Yeah yesterday I counterattacked my TV. Unfortunately not hard enough to need a new one, but also unfortunately hard enough to get a lecture from the wife
Rob_27
Member
Where do I find Dynamic resolution? i got the others sorted.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
"VR needs a killer app to truly succeed in the market"
VR gets a killer app
"i wish this wasnt VR. Flatscreen port please?"
VR gets a killer app
"i wish this wasnt VR. Flatscreen port please?"
Jack Videogames
Member
In the game settings
Minsc
Gold Member
Luckily it hasn't happened too much this time (more like please port to PS/PCVR), but I suppose if you really wanted a flat screen port you could simply play the original Asylum again, it's been almost 15 years. Almost like getting a new game at that point! Such a great game too.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
That's fair I would much rather play this on a PC with 200+FPS on a super high FOV headset as opposed to Quest 3.
Let's hope for VR emulation in the future
Romulus
Member
And wireless. Even tethered to the ceiling, I'm not going back to a game like this with a wire with all the spinning and moving I'm doing.
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Minsc
Gold Member
I don't know if there's a super convincing argument for high FPS like that - most headsets cap out at 120hz for good reason - you need to run 2 displays to VR, so it'd be like a 8k 240hz screen, but the size of a stamp.
Then even if you could do that, you'd have motion clarity to deal with. I dunno seems like a pipe dream to me, now anyway. Maybe in 10 years. But then again, Quest games are backwards compatible - and run enhanced too. So the game would see improvements to FPS and resolution on future Quest headsets anyway.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
Doesnt increasing fps decrease the chance of motion sickness? Plus it would feel really immersive