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[Camjo-Z]

So you do know what your secondary ability is? Because you claimed "maybe bulletproof" when you first said it and strong kills sure as shit go right through bulletproof.

As I said in my very first post on D2:

As for my second power, roughly paraphrased from my PM: "If you get nightkilled... well, some finales can become new starts." That's some Red Hood resurrection shit, baby! I don’t know what else it entails cuz it wasn't explained at all, but for now I’m just going to consider myself a 1-shot Bulletproof.

 

[Ty4on]

Hey fam just revote coppa, vote tool picked up the trigger vote on post #2956

Thanks!
VOTE: Coppa

Maybe the GAFia Gods are keeping me from voting scum again

 

[Xamtheking]

Thanks!
VOTE: Coppa

Maybe the GAFia Gods are keeping me from voting scum again

Swing and a miss

 

[Ourobolus]

Carry on - updated vote count below.

*Coppanuva* 6
Sorian
Xamtheking
Fireblend
Karu
Ty4on
Xamtheking
Fireblend
LaunchpadMcQ
Ty4on

*Sorian* 5
Camjo-Z
weemadarthur
Coppanuva
CornBurrito
El Topo
weemadarthur
LaunchpadMcQ
LaunchpadMcQ
Camjo-Z

*weemadarthur* 0
El Topo
Ty4on
Ty4on

*Fireblend* 0
Ty4on

*Ty4on* 0
LaunchpadMcQ
Xamtheking
Fireblend

*Trigger* 0
Ty4on

*Xamtheking* 0
Trigger

 

[Sorian]

As I said in my very first post on D2:

Uh huh, so back to probably nothing than. Flavor does not equal abilities. I think you know more about yourself than you are telling us but I also still think you are town right now so whatever.

 

[Ty4on]

Vote: Coppanuva

I'm way to used to calling him Coppa

Interestingly enough that reminded me that when I searched for mentions, Wee didn't call Coppa for "Coppa" until much later in the game. I have no idea if it even means anything, but now you know

 

[Sorian]

I'm pretty sure that's turbo, but let me check. Doing this manually.

It's 6/7

 

[Xamtheking]

I'm pretty sure that's turbo, but let me check. Doing this manually.

6 < 7

 

[Ty4on]

Don't reveal my double vote, Ouro

Spoiler

kappa

 

[Sorian]

I'm pretty sure that's turbo, but let me check. Doing this manually.

*Coppanuva* 7
Sorian
Xamtheking
Fireblend
Karu
Ty4on
Xamtheking
Fireblend
LaunchpadMcQ
Ty4on

Is Ty4on a double voter now? lol

 

[Ourobolus]

Yep, I've got Ty4on twice. Carry on.

 

[Ourobolus]

This is a test.

VOTE: Ourobolus

 

[Ourobolus]

This is a test.

VOTE: Ourobolus

This is also a test.

 

[Sorian]

Is what messes it up when the quoted vote is at the end of the post?

This is a test.

VOTE: Ourobolus

 

[Sorian]

Is what messes it up when the quoted vote is at the end of the post?

Nope, nevermind on that.

 

[Ty4on]

This is also a test.

I've seen it happen before. I think it is because you're quoting yourself because the script usually ignores quoted votes.

 

[Ourobolus]

I've seen it happen before. I think it is because you're quoting yourself because the script usually ignores quoted votes.

That was the test, to see if quoting yourself was the issue. Still trying to figure it out.

 

[Royal_Flush]

If you have a quote inside a quote and a vote command after the inner quote, it gets counted. (Don"t know if that's the issue here, I have no clue which vote zou are talking about )

 

[Ty4on]

If you have a quote inside a quote and a vote command after the inner quote, it gets counted.

Ah, that makes sense.

Is it too messy to implement a counter which is zero when outside a quote?

 

[roytheone]

If you have a quote inside a quote and a vote command after the inner quote, it gets counted. (Don"t know if that's the issue here, I have no clue which vote zou are talking about )

Ok, so here is a new rule I will now introduce into this game:

If you have a quote inside a quote and a vote command after the inner quote, please remove the highlight tags from that vote to prevent problems.

 

[Royal_Flush]

Ah, that makes sense.

Is it too messy to implement a counter which is zero when outside a quote?

Probably not. I didn't bother too implement it back then because GAF removes any inner quotes by default and you have to paste them in by hand if you want them. Whenever I get to coding on the tool again that's probably the highest priority.

 

[Xamtheking]

New rule: Quoting is not allowed, hard mode activated

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Remember how Xam said he was scum?

I can't show you where he said it, but take my word for it.

 

[Xamtheking]

Remember how Sorian said Launch liked dick
Good times

 

[Ourobolus]

Let's keep it civil, folks.

 

[Sorian]

Remember how Xam said he was scum?

I can't show you where he said it, but take my word for it.

Remember how Sorian said Launch liked dick
Good times

Don't be mean to each other.

Spoiler

I didn't say Launch liked Dick, I just did what any good reporter would do and cropped up a quote.

 

[Xamtheking]

Let's keep it civil, folks.

Don't be mean to each other.

Spoiler

I didn't say Launch liked Dick, I just did what any good reporter would do and cropped up a quote.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

lol

That one actually happened, guys.

 

[Xamtheking]

lol

That one actually happened, guys.

Ouro's mask is too big for his face

 

[weemadarthur]

Ok, so here is a new rule I will now introduce into this game:

If you have a quote inside a quote and a vote command after the inner quote, please remove the highlight tags from that vote to prevent problems.

What's the penalty for failing to make a genuine effort?

 

[weemadarthur]

Just reduces the chance. If you and wee are scum chances are one of you performed the kill, but neither of you two could have done it that night if Trigger is telling the truth. There is also the assumption that scum investigated TL21xx directly or indirectly with a second PR.

Unless I was a ninja.
I mean, I'm not. But that's not uncommon if town has a tracker.

 

[Sorian]

What's the penalty for failing to make a genuine effort?

 

[Sorian]

Unless I was a ninja.
I mean, I'm not. But that's not uncommon if town has a tracker.

Trackers can still follow ninjas, ninjas are there to counter watchers.

 

[Ty4on]

Unless I was a ninja.
I mean, I'm not. But that's not uncommon if town has a tracker.

Hm, I haven't thought about it, but with this many town power roles and it looking like scum team might just be 3 players a ninja makes sense.

 

[Ty4on]

Trackers can still follow ninjas, ninjas are there to counter watchers.

Don't ninjas always look like they're not moving? Seems a bit overly specific if it only looks like they're stationary from one perspective.

 

[Sorian]

Trackers can still follow ninjas, ninjas are there to counter watchers.

Wait, sorry, I stand corrected. I went and looked on mafiascum to make sure and they straight say that a ninja would interfere with a tracker as well. My bad.

 

[weemadarthur]

Trigger, do you have an active vote?

 

[weemadarthur]

Ok guys, I think we should take Sorian off the table for right now. If he's scum, that's great, but he'll be here next day phase. We can lynch him then. It's possible that if we don't hit a scum/neutral this phase, we're at game over.

This argument doesn't make sense to me.

'We need a scum lynch. We have a scum. But worry about it later and lynch a different scum possibility with less evidence!'

Surely going for the scummiest scum is still the best play.

 

[Sorian]

This argument doesn't make sense to me.

'We need a scum lynch. We have a scum. But worry about it later and lynch a different scum possibility with less evidence!'

Surely going for the scummiest scum is still the best play.

How does Coppa have less evidence than me? Please enlighten me at the evidence against me.

 

[weemadarthur]

How does Coppa have less evidence than me? Please enlighten me at the evidence against me.

Implausible role claim based on real evidence - existing town flips.
Scrambling (multiple players) to attempt to avoid lynching you at day end.
Overhard pushing against Karkador (arguing to the point of personal insults is bad play for town).
Lack of post content by my personal scale.
All the stuff I pointed out which was meant to be supplemental, but which nobody else finds convincing (*shrug*).

For coppanuva we have:
Sorian thinks he's suspicious
He hasn't been that active
He claimed sleepwalker but didn't know he should do it on day one (I've heard this is default play, in Princess. Could be wrong especially since scum said it.)

 

[Sorian]

Implausible role claim based on real evidence - existing town flips.
Scrambling (multiple players) to attempt to avoid lynching you at day end.
Overhard pushing against Karkador (arguing to the point of personal insults is bad play for town).
Lack of post content by my personal scale.
All the stuff I pointed out which was meant to be supplemental, but which nobody else finds convincing (*shrug*).

For coppanuva we have:
Sorian thinks he's suspicious
He hasn't been that active
He claimed sleepwalker but didn't know he should do it on day one (I've heard this is default play, in Princess. Could be wrong especially since scum said it.)

Claiming sleepwalker on day 1 is stupid by the way but that isn't my issue. The convenience and slow drip of the claim was my issue.

Anyway, you are obviously stacking this deck since you didn't bother mentioning the stipulation of Launch's list in Coppa's column at all. Also, lol at lack of post content, even removing most of my fluff, I've probably contributed more than half of the player list still alive easily.

 

[Fireblend]

Implausible role claim based on real evidence - existing town flips.
Scrambling (multiple players) to attempt to avoid lynching you at day end.
Overhard pushing against Karkador (arguing to the point of personal insults is bad play for town).
Lack of post content by my personal scale.
All the stuff I pointed out which was meant to be supplemental, but which nobody else finds convincing (*shrug*).

For coppanuva we have:
Sorian thinks he's suspicious
He hasn't been that active
He claimed sleepwalker but didn't know he should do it on day one (I've heard this is default play, in Princess. Could be wrong especially since scum said it.)

You're completely ignoring the fact that if you believe Launch, either he or Ty are for sure not a town player, and he's ignored this for the entire day.

 

[weemadarthur]

Claiming sleepwalker on day 1 is stupid by the way but that isn't my issue. The convenience and slow drip of the claim was my issue.

Anyway, you are obviously stacking this deck since you didn't bother mentioning the stipulation of Launch's list in Coppa's column at all. Also, lol at lack of post content, even removing most of my fluff, I've probably contributed more than half of the player list still alive easily.

Ok about the slow claim.

And yes, I'm sort of stacking the deck. But I legit forgot about launchpad's list for two reasons.
A) I'm unconvinced it is a real role
B) if it was a real role, I think it just pointed at Ty and not at coppa.

So it had two giant issues that cause me to leave it out of arguments.

 

[weemadarthur]

You're completely ignoring the fact that if you believe Launch, either he or Ty are for sure not a town player, and he's ignored this for the entire day.

I never did believe launchpad. He's on my personal scum list for his list.

 

[Sorian]

Ok about the slow claim.

And yes, I'm sort of stacking the deck. But I legit forgot about launchpad's list for two reasons.
A) I'm unconvinced it is a real role
B) if it was a real role, I think it just pointed at Ty and not at coppa.

So it had two giant issues that cause me to leave it out of arguments.

While I'm pointing out trouble spots, I'll say one more thing as well. Personal attacks were hardly involved with my attack on Kark, they were there (kind of, I can only think of the obnoxious comment) but he definitely did the same to me both before and after. Kark was town with that behavior so it obviously doesn't mean much other than personal feeling.

I don't have much to say about my role claim. It's been a cluster fuck trying to use it and the perfect storm brought me here.

 

[weemadarthur]

Well I already helped vote Karkador out (oops) partly on that same basis. XD.
So yeah, I'm not ignoring the other half of the issue.

 

[Trigger]

Trigger, do you have an active vote?

I was planning to vote Coppa, but I don't want to cause a turbo if we're still discussing stuff.

 

[weemadarthur]

I was planning to vote Coppa, but I don't want to cause a turbo if we're still discussing stuff.

That's a good reason.
I'm just checking if you're here.

I personally have nothing new to bring up. I suppose if nobody is considering moving their vote, the day will end that way anyhow.

Is anyone still considering their best option? Or is that gonna be the final count?

 

[Coppanuva]

I'm curious here, why did the vote block conversation get dropped? Kark claimed to have blocked Sorian n1, and while it's possible whoever had that power simply chose not to use it that night instead, I find that a bit coincidental that happened. I also think Sorian is exactly the kind of player who might try to use his power to be a "confirmed" town since he typically dies early.

 

[Karu]

Is anyone still considering their best option? Or is that gonna be the final count?

Yes. *raises hand* With such a delicate situation, putting everything to rest three hours before ends, seems eh. Especially since the last half hour will be crazytown anyway lol (based on past experience. It's never as cut and dry as it appears *sigh*)

We need to go after one of the two on the list, bottom line. I know trusting it is a leap of faith, but we don't have much of a choice. Up until now, I've been content to let this be something we discuss in passing or not let direct our judgement so as to get reads from people reacting to it (and my different "revelations"), but the list is legit, and one of Coppa or Ty4on is scum/neutral... hell, maybe both. But we can't just go outside of the list when scum has done us the favor of giving us a 50/50 chance at saving ourselves.

Wait, am I misremembering (genuine question) - weren't you against the list, you of all people?

It's so nice that you've finally woken up.

I bet you like that!

Three hours to go and I tried to catch what I missed while I way away and huh... with how things are going I'm not that sure either choice is as bad or as good as the other. Especially in regards to the current thread climate - which is pretty subdued, I feel hesitant to leave my Vote on Coppa for now.

So... Coppa claimed, which I myself acknowledged as convienient. But there is also still Sorian's claim out there, no? Maybe I'm misinterpreting things, please educate me, but suppose he's scum, but his ability (IGNITE -> KILL) is still - or at least a form of it - true. Felt like it got all pushed under the rug while the discussion went on...

For now... (I will be here)
VOTE: Sorian