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Batman [Mafia] |OT| The mafia game Gafia deserves , but not the one it needs
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You're going to have to explain the difference to me then. Instead of vote activity would it be fair to say you meant suspicion?
If you look up confusing and erratic in most dictionaries, you will find a picture of that cat smiling at you. You'll have to get used to this with Kark.
What's with this semantics argument?
In our current information vacuum (with the exception of the Batcomputer), 12 people in this game have a vote dropped on them, and 6 people have no vote on them.
I'm not stating anything conclusively with that, but I think it's a point of interest.
This isn't a semantics argument below?
My original question/remark still stands, I'm not sure why this was interesting to you (and good to you judging from the gif) if you aren't even voting on anyone. Your stance has been to throw the day away, lynch-wise, from what I've seen so far. Either that or hide behind the "bat computer"
To comment on the 12 have had a vote dropped on them and 6 haven't part. Does that actually mean much? I helped with some of those 12 and one of them was full on RNG. But sure, I can agree that it's a point of interest but that would depend on the scum team. Would they be voting for a teammate early to look good down the road? Or are they avoiding each other like the plague? I'd argue it's so saturated in WIFOM that it's a useless observation.
You asked me a question, clearly confused about what's going on, so I answered it for you. I'm not splitting hairs about the meaning of words. You're pulling the old NX agitation trick, though.
Let's not forget - the Batcomputer named you as scum. These shenanigans of yours are being indexed and processed.
They are two independent variables. This phenomenon of 66% of the Day 1 game having a vote on them is weird. It has nothing to do with who I choose to vote on.
Batcomputer said:
I know, Batcomputer. I know.
Batcomputer said:
You're only going to be able to dance around your blind reasoning for so long, that weird psycopath
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Mazre, I have my vote sitting on you. Can you explain your reasoning for claiming ordinary? Are you going to claim it was purely for selfish reasons? What are your thoughts on recent happenings? Can you talk a bit more about your thoughts on Coppa?
I can but I won't. What happenings? Mainly I've seen Kark making computer noises. Coppa is a vet who hasn't said a lot. He's playing exactly the sort of game that gets you lynched day 1, don't do much of anything then get caught in a late phase swing.
Yes Kark, I know your imaginary friend has me pegged as scum. I'm also mildly playing along because I know (and man, I hope you know) that everyone should be calling you out on this weird play you are doing regardless of if you accused anyone or not because you are throwing out "factual" reads based on nothing. So it's at least been a good tool to catch out people who weren't accused of anything and decided to hide instead of pushing back on it.
Also, for reference, I don't think it's that weird that 66% of the player base has had a vote on them already. Sounds par for the course to me. What's more interesting if you want to look at a voting pattern is that only Mazre (and now you with Camjo's vote) have hit 2 votes. The voting pattern is staying very spread out, I'm more used to it moving in big waves.
I don't really care that Karu's voting me since it's a poke vote.
I also think the Batcomputer™ is your early (aka mostly wrong) read list that you refuse to explain because you think somehow that will give you better reads on those people, but instead will just end up annoying them and everybody else.
I'm sure I'm getting scummier by the minute because I keep arguing with the computer. I assume it's supposed to look bad because I care about what this list is supposed to be, ignoring the fact that I would find this dumb even if he didn't have me bolded or italicized.
Batcomputer said:
See?
At this point this batcomputer shenanigans is getting on my nerves and I don't really have anything to say other than use Occam's Razor and believe it's Kark's way of provoking reactions from other players that can be used in subsequent days and is in no way an indication of privileged info. Otherwise its meaning is beyond me.
Xamtheking
Member
Kark, can we please get serious here.
Stop hiding behind your Batcomputer and shit.
I appreciate humor as much as any of you crazy fuckers, but right now this is just straight up anti-town discussion, fam. We have a game to play (and hopefully win) but I am afraid you're already starting to drag us down.
If you're scum then continue, plz.
Stop hiding behind your Batcomputer and shit.
I appreciate humor as much as any of you crazy fuckers, but right now this is just straight up anti-town discussion, fam. We have a game to play (and hopefully win) but I am afraid you're already starting to drag us down.
If you're scum then continue, plz.
I found the batcomputer input terminal.
Nah, I'm letting you play whatever you want to play at but the writing is on the wall. You are accusing from a place where no one can argue from.
"How does this list make any sense"
*shrug*
"The batcomputer told me."
We both know that this is an easy place for scum to sit. if someone different were doing this, I would probably be trying to rip them apart but I know well enough that this non-sense gives you a hard-on when you are town and this is day 1, it's easier, and probably more fruitful, to just watch and see what happens but I'm not going to just let you play this game completely unopposed.
weemadarthur
Member
Do Pop and TheG need to be prodded at this point? Maybe if we cannibalize gods we can get some peeps who want to play.
weemadarthur
Member
Do go on....
The game hasn't even been running for 24 hours. It's Roy's game so he'll make the judgement but I wouldn't be prodding yet personally.
I will prod if they haven't posted a day before day's end yet.
It hasn't though? The list existing is what has gotten under my skin. I could have been omitted from the list completely as a forgotten player and it would still be bugging me. You posted something that I am convinced is random and tried to play it off like something that mattered (you still do with little remarks like "the information vacuum we are in (well except for the batcomputer of course). You can say you aren't hiding behind it but this is your only meaningful contribution today (well that and some conversation on neutrals and probing if we think two face would be one such neutral). Most questions that people direct at you go ignored or brushed to the side.
Also, before the inevitable "well why aren't you voting for kark?" Because I don't really think he is scum at the moment because I don't think scum Kark would be standing inthe middle of the room screaming so loudly (though I'm not actually sure how scum Kark acts, I don't think he has ever been scum) and even if I were more leaning scum, I'm not sure Kark is a good person to kill day 1. Lynching high activity posters that end up being town is like shooting ourselves in the foot and I'd rather avoid that day 1. Killing an important PR is the same but I can't look at someone and tell what PR they are, I can look at someone and see their relative activity levels though.
weemadarthur
Member
Are you role playing batman? Or is this a strangely aggressive soft claim?
If you're just role playing you should at least say so to reduce the likelihood of useless cross claims.
Honestly, I thought about this but I dismissed it, if there was something special like that then we would have had a night start. The only prep time is probably scum setting up more hydro cannons ahead of time and maybe a role here or there that hints at other roles in the game.
I'm constantly keeping an eye on this thread. I don't necessarily have any suspicions on anyone right now and, honestly, I kind of want all players to chime in before I look too deeply into that stuff.
I suppose I'm wary of Roy right now, but that's just because I'm naturally wary of anyone who tries to make themselves appear the most town. I think the Bat-Computer thing is nonsense and doesn't say anything either way on Karkador.
We didn't exactly not have a night start. Ordinary Cop Burbeting got killed (aka, the game started) with an 8 hour period before Day 1 actually began.
weemadarthur
Member
Yeah, Roy is totally scum.
That's what I get for paying half attention whilst playing SFV. I meant Sorian.
I'm also wary of you, weemadarthur, for the same reason but to a greater extent because they are superficial means to appear helpful.
Amazing lol
Do we need to have the flavor conversation again? Also, hmm, where did you get 8 hours from? Maybe I am remembering wrong but I thought Roy had that flavor there from when he first made the thread, there were two days before opening flavor and game start.
I misremembered that the Burb part was in the OP post, but we definitely had an 8 hour window til the game began.
This has to be a fair ask:
Roy, did we start on Day 1, or was there a phase before it?
weemadarthur
Member
Burbeting wasn't part of the game ever. He reviewed it. The whole opening post is roy being salty about the process. 
I can't believe you're using that as an argument that we had an unknown twilight phase.
I can't believe you're using that as an argument that we had an unknown twilight phase.
Remember this guys, it'll be important when we lynch Flame_AC on day 3.
We started on day 1. Burb "dying" was just a fun way to present the sample role pm.
OH FUCK, THEY FIGURED IT OUT!
*Runs away in panic *
As if this was needed, but sure, there we go. So much for prep time.
A small part of me hopes that Mazre is actually a prophet and is just slowly rolling out the roadmap this game will take.
Wrangling up groups of people to talk about. It's more like Bruce Wayne: Texas Ranger.
Mostly wrong?
TheGoddamn
Member
Hi, everyone. I didn't realize that the game was afoot.
Hi Sorian! I don't think I've played with you before (even though you were the one I interacted with the most in Ace Attorney). That pre-made post says a lot about you as a player (but not about your alignment).
D1 is my least favorite day, but I do know the future value of the shots in the dark that town will be making today, as well as the pretend shots in the dark that scum will be making.
I'm still finding my feet in the sea of new people-- to me-- that I'm playing with, but Mazre's claim seems anti-town to me. Sorian's pre-made post (again) really says nothing about his alignment, and it's sound advice. I know we shouldn't be sheep, and especially avoid congregating around one player, but Mazre's blatant disregard for the de facto rules of D1 feels wrong, as does his flippant brushing off of the question is of the claim. His subsequent "predictions" also read as deflecting. That does elicit the question of why did he draw attention to himself...
For now,
Vote: Mazre
Hi Sorian! I don't think I've played with you before (even though you were the one I interacted with the most in Ace Attorney). That pre-made post says a lot about you as a player (but not about your alignment).
D1 is my least favorite day, but I do know the future value of the shots in the dark that town will be making today, as well as the pretend shots in the dark that scum will be making.
I'm still finding my feet in the sea of new people-- to me-- that I'm playing with, but Mazre's claim seems anti-town to me. Sorian's pre-made post (again) really says nothing about his alignment, and it's sound advice. I know we shouldn't be sheep, and especially avoid congregating around one player, but Mazre's blatant disregard for the de facto rules of D1 feels wrong, as does his flippant brushing off of the question is of the claim. His subsequent "predictions" also read as deflecting. That does elicit the question of why did he draw attention to himself...
For now,
Vote: Mazre
Xamtheking
Member
Why do people let Carkeydoor get away with this shit
insert vague response here
Chicks dig the Carkeydoor
Xamtheking
Member
Maybe in your fantasyland
Do you have like any semi-valuable input
While it is confusing, possibly pointless, and more than a little distracting, I'm not convinced it's scummy behavior, yet. It is driving at least some discussion, and I think I can see the town motivation behind it.
There are still a few other people who are higher on my current suspicion list than Karkador.
Real life, it's not a scum tactic. It's only been 24 hours.
Mazre worries me for his post you can see below.
Too early to say, he's playing as he always does in games I play with him.
No, Fireblend is just pushing through Day 1 his own way.
I don't know whether to be afraid of this or not.
The meta that some people say they are so scared of. I'm aware that it is exists and it will get used, this is par for Kark, I'd be more bothered if he wasn't drawing unnecessary attention in all honesty.
Xamtheking
Member
Chicks dig keying your face off