Batman V Superman’ Takes A Dive With -70% Second Weekend

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It does egregiously overuse the oh-so-clever "Oh you said a thing earlier, but I'm going to say it back to you in a slightly related context to show you that I've outwitted you!"

That movie is lousy with those repeated lines. "Didn't you get the memo?" "It's not what I am underneath but what I do that defines me", "You still haven't given up on me?" "Nevah!", "Why do we fall? So we can learn to pick ourselves back up", all repeated multiple times. It feels like someone's going to drop some Hollywood bullshit like "What does your heart tell you?" at any moment :P

Also one of the absolute worst offenders of the regrettable shaky cam era. Any time an action scene breaks out you just can't see anything.
 
Yup. That's Batman right there. And then Nolan completely undermined his character with TDK & TDKR. In all honesty, Nolan's trilogy got progressively worse.

... by having Batman stand by his values in Dark Knight and take the heat for a crime he didn't commit just to help the city?

Then to overcome his lifelong struggle of coping with his parents deaths and actually move on with his life?

Nah, TDK trilogy is a great 'what if?' story about how Bruce could go on to have a happy life even after all he's been through.
 
Now that we're talking quotes, this is my favorite in TDK.:

Bruce Wayne: People are dying, Alfred. What would you have me do?

Alfred Pennyworth: Endure, Master Wayne. Take it. They'll hate you for it, but that's the point of Batman, he can be the outcast. He can make the choice that no one else can make, the right choice.

Bruce Wayne: Well today I found out what Batman can't do. He can't endure this. Today you get to say "I told you so."

Alfred Pennyworth: Today, I don't want to.
[pauses for several moments]

Alfred Pennyworth: But I did bloody tell you
 
Surprised Begins isn't higher rated than the Dark Knight. This opinion is going to get flak but over time I think there isn't a lot between Rises and the Dark Knight. Rises is more obviously daft with the plot in a way that doesn't need much thought to tear it apart but Dark Knight is much the same with a collection of random set pieces and moments that make no sense, there is just a little less stupid and a better villain. I think they are both pretty weak films beyond the spectacle. Begins is my favourite.

I greatly preffered begins out of all the trilogy.

Only the Katie Holmes casting kept the movie from Godtier for me
 
It does egregiously overuse the oh-so-clever "Oh you said a thing earlier, but I'm going to say it back to you in a slightly related context to show you that I've outwitted you!"

Like that is probably among my two key issues with Begins which I otherwise love. The over-explained final act from Batman, Gordon, that random dude at Wayne Tower... and the movie constantly trying to show off how clever it is by repeating lines.

Literally everything in Batman begins happened twice
 
The origin story in begins is maybe the best origin story on any superhero movie. The second half of the movie kind of drags, though.
 
I am probably the only one this bothers...

But I hate when the movies have Alfred call Bruce, 'Master Wayne'.

Its supposed to be 'Master Bruce' dammit. I always has been.
'Master Wayne' sounds so impersonal. They have a father/son relationship after all.

It drives me wild lol.
 
Just took my son to see the film this afternoon. There were about a dozen people in there with us. Yeah, it doesn't look good if that's representative of what's happening everywhere...

We both loved it though. We got home and he ran upstairs to put on Man of Steel and play with his Lego. I'm sat here surprised at how much I enjoyed myself. It was much, much better than I thought it would be. Doesn't deserve to bomb, imo.
 
I greatly preffered begins out of all the trilogy.

Only the Katie Holmes casting kept the movie from Godtier for me

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I actually didn't mind her that much, she gets too much hate, acting was perfectly fine. Begins has exposition problems and the monorail was a bit much in the end. Other than that and the Falcone capture extraction, it's a really good film. Even the fights are good, Batman being a Ninja. It wasn't shaky cam, just up close.
 
Just took my son to see the film this afternoon. There were about a dozen people in there with us. Yeah, it doesn't look good if that's representative of what's happening everywhere...

We both loved it though. We got home and he ran upstairs to put on Man of Steel and play with his Lego. I'm sat here surprised at how much I enjoyed myself. It was much, much better than I thought it would be. Doesn't deserve to bomb, imo.

I'm with you, man. Me and my kids really liked it, even with its flaws. Wondy was so damn hype.
 
I'm with you, man. Me and my kids really liked it, even with its flaws. Wondy was so damn hype.

Wonder Woman's introduction was one of the things I was worried about, based on the trailers I saw. But it just worked in the film. Even the, "Is she with you?..." line. She was damn cool as well.
 
Because the box office thread is locked:

Weekend studio estimates:

1) Batman v Superman - $52.4M - 261M total
2) Zootopia - $20.0M - $276M total
3) My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2 - $11.1M - $36M total

X) Allegiant - $5.7M - $56M total
X) Meet the Blacks - $4.1M
 
Zootopia is now at $787M worldwide passing deadpool for #1 of 2016 do far. I doubt BvS will ever hit the #1 worlwide spot this year (even briefly) as passing Zootopia is unlikely.
 
It's WB over-estimating so they can save face.

They did that 1st weekend, but when you're dealing with 170 million, fudging 3 or 4 of it doesn't seem so bad.

When you're trying to do that with 50, that's a lot more noticeable.

It also could just be that this was such a hard fall, with no competition, that anything higher than 50 now seems like a mild victory.
 
They did that 1st weekend, but when you're dealing with 170 million, fudging 3 or 4 of it doesn't seem so bad.

When you're trying to do that with 50, that's a lot more noticeable.

It also could just be that this was such a hard fall, with no competition, that anything higher than 50 now seems like a mild victory.

Our pessimistic prediction for weekend numbers in the Box office thread back on Wednesday and Thursday was $53-55M. Deadline was still sticking to $61-66M This just seems better after the brief high 40s talk. I do think that Sat was high enough to keep it over 50 unless the drop on Sun is huge though.
 
There is no way that estimate holds.

I for one will happily eat my words when Monday comes. Dat Hulk Record getting smashed.

It would have to fall below $50.25M in the actuals to do that. I mean it could, but I would say it's going to be above.. and you can bet that WB will make sure it stays above today.
 
Do we get a new Boxoffice Thread or is it this one for this week?

Old box-office thread usually dies as a new one is posted on Sunday morning, the only difference this time out is that modbot got super-itchy yesterday afternoon, so the old thread died prematurely.

Xaosslug should have the new one posted up here soon.
 
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