Batman V Superman Takes A Dive With -70% Second Weekend
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Yes, but their back is against the wall. Justice League starts filming in about one week.
They might pull a Richard Donner Superman II though...
The smart thing would be to push Wonder Woman to Justice League's slot, and give Justice League extra time to develop. Also get some fresh eyes on the thing from people who give a shit about making these characters likable.
Succinct Verbosity
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At this point, yes.
For Justice League Part One it's probably too late, but they can push back Part Two.
Doesn't filming start in like 7 days or something or just pre production. I don't know if WB would want to stop the train rather than meddle a little to try and make something better of it then cast Snyder out for any future films. Could someone coming in late really make that much difference and would they want to?
People seemed to like Wonder Women so if they could focus on that instead while JL is delayed and gets a good going over from somebody new, that would be ideal probably. If Suicide Squad does well, those two films could be a nice pallet cleaner for audiences.
It already passes MoS worldwide. Success!!
Jeez.. It didn't even break $700M.
They would need to postpone production and delay the movie like people said. No self-respecting director would step into Snyder's shoes with no time to prepare or to make the movie their own.
It's a hard place for WB, but it's clear audiences have outright rejected Snyder's style. Multiple times. To think they hired Snyder in the first place (for MoS) because he was willing to compromise on a crappy script.
Bobby Roberts
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It just nosedived, though. That's what this weekend is.
They can push back Justice League. They've CANCELED Justice League before, with less time than this before filming was set to start.
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What if they start pushing affleck into an assistant director role? The guy is already heavily involved, has experience and was the only universally praised thing about batman v superman. I could see Afflek being a shadow director of part 1 and then taking over entirely in part 2.
The difference is that pushing Justice League back throws their entire flimsy cinematic universe out of sync at the first hurdle. It would just be embarrassing.
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That would be okay if the script is good but maybe that would piss off Snyder and he wouldn't agree.
If? It has nose dived. One of the worst drops for any super hero movie ever. Post-opening weekend has been a complete disaster and free fall worldwide.
MLB opening day would be a far bigger draw for the films audience than late night Walking Dead one would assume.
Bobby Roberts
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"Knock it off,"
"Okay"
wasn't an option?
They're already embarrassed, though. Severely.
How? Affleck and Synder are both in the DGA.
Sure, but if discussion was going to continue, the thread needed scrubbing. If there wasn't an outlet to continue discussion that would be one thing, but there was. Let's move on.
Zootopia hit $20m. That's what, a $4m drop for the weekend? Jesus.
I would not be surprised if Snyder is off JL Part Two and/or it's delayed last 2019 (with that slot probably going to a solo Batman movie). But JL Part One starts shooting in 8 days, and Snyder and Affleck likely have expensive play or pay deals locked in. Snyder's job on this movie is likely safe but WB will probably take on a more hands on role this time around.
Bobby Roberts
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okay.
BoosterDuck
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Wrasslin'
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I don't now how these things work, so I'm just thinking of the best case scenario - if anything prevents what I posted then I guess WB have to stay on their current path.
I know they CAN, I'm just wondering if they WOULD.
What was the reason to pull the previous JL?
Batman Begins, I think.
Bobby Roberts
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I'm feeling a lot more confident in saying Deadpool will have a higher domestic take.
I'm also feeling like while it's very, very likely that Justice League moves forward as planned (but with tweaks) it's not altogether out of the realm of possibility that it does get pushed back, or even completely reimagined. Warners can do that. Warners has done it before. It's kind of a question of lose money now, or lose money later.
Taxes/Financing.
WB knows what to do...
Add Beast Boy to Justice League.
Australian government didn't want to give them a tax break or something.
If Deadpool had China, would beaten it worldwide too.
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Actually, I think their previous JL plans hinged on Green Lantern. And we all know how that turned out.
Which is doubly embarrassing now that Ryan Reynolds has gone and starred in a much better Marvel film (well, Fox-made Marvel film) that openly makes a mockery of his previous role.
Which is doubly embarrassing now that Ryan Reynolds has gone and starred in a much better Marvel film (well, Fox-made Marvel film) that openly makes a mockery of his previous role.
Looking at the comparison of Deadpool lined-up dailies for this week coming, I think BvS is going to start losing its lead more rapidly. I think it will be a little over GotG at the end (say $340-350M).
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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I don't see the $350M figure or that they were splitting merch revenue 50/50. Am I missing something?
It has changed after FY11 or FY12 when the merch deal was done.
https://ditm-twdc-us.storage.googleapis.com/2015-Annual-Report.pdf
Maybe that deal got tweaked and re-negotiated since Marvel is helping with production for the solo spider man movie. Maybe now they won't have to pay Sony to use their character anymore (lol). That also shows you why Disney is not putting any x-men or ff merchandise out, they don't wanna pay Fox.
By the way, do you have a source for the figure you quoted for Spider man 2? It's usually done by a percentage of the Box Office gross.
Yeah, I think Deadpool coming out ahead is all but locked in at this point. Heck, there's a reasonable scenario where Zootopia comes out ahead in domestic.
Just saw the international number was only $85m for the weekend (down 67%). So they don't even have international gross to fall back on here.
Bobby Roberts
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That's a good point, too: They've already reformulated their idea for this cinematic universe we're currently in once already, after they all fucked Green Lantern to death when they had a perfectly viable script (and star, it turns out) in the first place.
So they've already had to basically start their cinematic universe over twice already, in 2009 and 2011, and now they're facing a situation in 2016 where they're about to film a Justice League movie following up the first ever appearance of the Trinity in live-action that dropped about 70% during Spring Break up against Greek Wedding 2, God's Not Dead 2, Miracles from Heaven, Eye in the Sky, Zootopia's 5th Weekend & Deadpool's 8th.
I think sub $850M WW probably will happen now too. What a disaster.
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Candescence
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Yeah, it's astonishing how bad Warner Bros. is at this. I mean, sure, Marvel is astonishingly competent at maintaining at least a good amount of quality with its productions, but WB should not be fucking up this badly multiple times.
itesh Pandya ‏@GiteshPandya 37m37 minutes ago
$85M intl wknd for #BatmanvSuperman falling 67% from opening. $419.8M intl cume, $681.3M global now heading to $900-925M.
Damn! Zoo!
Gitesh Pandya ‏@GiteshPandya 52m52 minutes ago
#Zootopia nearing $800M. Dom wknd dips just 17%, global wknd $50M, ww cume rises to $787.6M incl $215.3M in China. Japan still to come.
$85M intl wknd for #BatmanvSuperman falling 67% from opening. $419.8M intl cume, $681.3M global now heading to $900-925M.
Damn! Zoo!
Gitesh Pandya ‏@GiteshPandya 52m52 minutes ago
#Zootopia nearing $800M. Dom wknd dips just 17%, global wknd $50M, ww cume rises to $787.6M incl $215.3M in China. Japan still to come.
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