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When Warner Bros introduces their giant monster CU into full fruition the foreign box office will carry that genre above super heroes. I welcome our new giant monster overlords.
Batman v Superman follows the trend of the underperforming blockbuster in China
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This is anecdotal as fuck, but from talking to people here, the general consensus was much less positive than what I heard from my friends in the states.
CaviarMeths
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It will have ramifications. WB sure isn't going to just be shrugging and saying "well, that's just China, I guess." It's a huge market now that can't be ignored. I don't think it would be surprising to see some news in coming weeks that they're recruiting Chinese talent and scouting Chinese locations for Justice League, capture some of that Age of Extinction voodoo.
I can totally understand not being impressed with it. I know I certainly wasn't.
BocoDragon
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Appreciation for TFA probably trades heavy on mass cultural nostalgia. "They made a good one!" was the unifying response here... but that matters less if you're in China and Star Wars was a sub-culture that leaked into the culture slowly, rather than being the foundation of a culture's cinematic history.
CaviarMeths
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Star Wars 1-6 weren't even released in China until last year. They didn't have nearly 40 years of huge cultural impact like America did.
This is seriously the best idea ever.
Supermanisdead
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most people i spoke to were not at all interested. mostly they said because they hadn't seen the previous 6 lol
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Avatar is the only 'space movie' that has done gangbusters in China - a movie that not only pushed technological boundaries but also featured American-looking GIs/white imperialists as the bad guys. Star Wars Rogue One starring Donnie Yen is the only one that will come close until Avatar 2
For Hollywood hopefully this opens up regulation, and some much needed diversity (looking at you Oscars and blockbuster starring roles)
Be interesting to see if China can save Warcraft
For Hollywood hopefully this opens up regulation, and some much needed diversity (looking at you Oscars and blockbuster starring roles)
Be interesting to see if China can save Warcraft
CaviarMeths
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To be fair, Avatar and Star Wars are the only 'space movies' that have done gangbusters anywhere. The best performing space movie outside of Star Wars and Avatar is Guardians of the Galaxy ($773mil).
BocoDragon
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And some people on GAF were insisting to me a few months back that "everyone in China knows what Star Wars is".
I was adamant that this was most people's first exposure to the series there.
Interesting. Looking back I suppose it is a pretty tricky genre and business if Jupiter's Ascending and After Earth are of any indication lol
It was covered by most analysts and tracking sites cultural awareness was low in China for SW.
Ultimately TFA was hugely geared towards people with strong knowledge of OT and lots of historic warmth to the OT cast. That went down gang busters in US and really well most of rest of West like UK but cost them a fair chunk in China.
Triggerhappytel
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Yeah; third act of Justice League 1 confirmed to take place in Shanghai!
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Somewhere, someone from Dreamworks is crying
According to Box Office Mojo, KFP3 is at $149 million in China. Granted, Zootopia is doing even better at $175 million, but it's not like KFP3 tanked, it's making more than most US blockbusters do there. Were the studio expectations that high?
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/china/opening/?sort=gross&order=DESC&p=.htm
kevin feige has too much power.
Different culture, different expectations for films. If I had to generalise, the Chinese audience don't like overly complicated movies with deep themes - they want spectacle and a straightforward plot.
I often used my in-laws to gauge what Chinese audiences want - they loved Captain America 1 but criticised The Winter Soldier and "overly complicated" story and long stretches of "boringness" (although they loved the action). They also loved Transformers 1-4 but weren't too hot on The Martian. :/
I often used my in-laws to gauge what Chinese audiences want - they loved Captain America 1 but criticised The Winter Soldier and "overly complicated" story and long stretches of "boringness" (although they loved the action). They also loved Transformers 1-4 but weren't too hot on The Martian. :/
it's kinda disappointing, yeah. A movie set in ancient China with kung fu pandas and shit, Dreamworks probably thought they'd make the most money from there
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Maybe it's time for some western studios to pump in money to make proper Jin Yong movies with Hollywood budgets.
Watch them turn Return of the Condor Heroes into a teenage love epic trilogy.
Watch them turn Return of the Condor Heroes into a teenage love epic trilogy.
Alandrus Sun
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For once the Chinese are right, Zootopia is 10x a better movie than the trash that was BvS.
Glad you know so many millions of Chinese and had the time to gather their individual opinions into a 4 words sentence.
Batman went to Hong Kong to kidnap a Chinese guy tho. Movie was banned from theatres because of this scene as well.
Irin Man 3 had the best one. Pioneering doctor man
Yeah the next YA big thing!!!
Nightengale
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But RotCH *IS* a teenage love epic...
The Bookerman
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I hope they don't do more Transformers Age of Extinction like movies.... where it's just trying to pander to the chinese audience....
Blew my mind given how racist it was.
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Hence it's perfect
Make Xiaolongnu much older, find a cute young 20 year old man and target the cougar audience.
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DC to set the last half of the JLA movie in china with cameos from The Great Ten
August General in Iron set to replace Cyborg.
KillerMan91
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China loves Transformers movies though and those are pretty much the best examples of ' US military propaganda films.
While spacemovies have not done really gangbuster numbers worldwide outside of those two they generally sell pretty well in Asia when you compare the share of Asian box office to total boxoffice.
Aztechnology
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Which just goes to show you there is no such thing as an unbiased review. TFA was very overrated here. Too much nostalgia clouding people's judgement.
It wasn't exactly Frozen in English-speaking countries, either.
It was a necessary trade off. Anything gained in China by doing a film with little to no connection with the OT would have been lost in the west due to no OT nostalgia based hype and interest.
Dash_Riprock
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Um Ken Watanabe is Japanese, dude.
Wouldn't even be mad, he actually would make more sense than Cyborg.
Schweinehund
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Does this mean we can get a great ten movie with the new Chinese Superman?
I'm interested in seeing what they'll be doing in Super League.
DC to set the last half of the JLA movie in china with cameos from The Great Ten
I'm interested in seeing what they'll be doing in Super League.
Aztechnology
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I really don't understand what they like. I don't understand our audiences either, as they don't seem to care much for writing and plot which is huge to me.
As for TFA It was definitely fun. But my God if my friends and everyone else wouldn't shut up about how it was the best thing ever. The writing certainly wasn't all that great. Too many missed opportunities (Phasma anyone?) and they had to hang a lantern on too many things to progress the plot.
LiveFromKyoto
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ZOMG...I bet that's why The Mandarin wasn't actually Asian...or real...in Iron Man 3.
I think saying it did poorly is an exaggeration. As a first entry in a franchise, it did better than Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy, for instance, with a weaker currency, and being released a month later than in the US. It did not do as well as Jurassic World or Furious 7. $125 million is solid and (depending on release date) Rogue One will probably be an increase from TFA in China, while it will be a decrease from TFA elsewhere.
Movie already did 400m+ opening weekend worldwide. It would have to bomb pretty hard from here out to not make 800m. I think it'll end around a billion or so
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