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Batman vs Superman: World's Finest Three-Year Wait
- Thread starter Marion Cobretti
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Brainiac and Lex are too big of characters to both put in the same movie for the first time... and Brainiac would be a little too reminiscent of Zod.
I think Lex/Metallo makes the most sense and even works if you put Batman into the equation too (Metallo gives Supes someone to punch, while Lex is a villain that Bats can handle). Plus it's the perfect way to introduce Kryptonite in this series.
Razgriz-Specter
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They just filmed some college football game at halftime. Which will stand in for Metropolis and Gotham University
Ninja Scooter
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Not everyone who is cast is going to be a super hero. He could end up being a random military dude or something. Like the Law and Order guy.
BadAss2961
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Gadot's already working out with the guy that beefed up Cavill.
TacticalFox88
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I'm going to laugh my ASS off if she comes out looking pretty beefed up.
All that internet rage for nothing.
Marion Cobretti
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Hopefully we get some more actual news by Friday.
Discotheque
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Normally DCs been making huge casting waves but lately it's just underwhelming as fuck
Gal Gadot, Sawyer, Jason Mamoa
Sounds like a flunkie squad.
They better make up for all this fuckery by casting Joaquin for lex
Gal Gadot, Sawyer, Jason Mamoa
Sounds like a flunkie squad.
They better make up for all this fuckery by casting Joaquin for lex
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I love how they give him a solo credit for being in Mission Impossible...when he's in the movie for all of 2 minutes.
Gal Gadot is the only swing and miss there. Throw in The Rock and a big name for Lex and it's a good foundation
BadAss2961
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Gadot's a questionable choice because of her acting. I have no doubt Snyder will make her look really cool though.
Momoa is pretty badass in Game of Thrones. Dye his hair a bit, and I wouldn't mind seeing an Aquaman with those mannerisms. Aqua could definitely be that powerful warrior of few words type.
Momoa is pretty badass in Game of Thrones. Dye his hair a bit, and I wouldn't mind seeing an Aquaman with those mannerisms. Aqua could definitely be that powerful warrior of few words type.
I don't follow actors too closely, so the casting is whatever to me so far. Gadot seems like the only questionable choice given her acting experience (really wanted someone more experienced to play Diana; I feel like we only get one shot at Wonder Woman), but I'm willing to give whoever else shows up a chance.
Why Friday?
Why Friday?
I usually get really annoyed when the internet says a movie is going to be horrible before it comes out, or there is irrational hate for a director, but this movie and the idea around it is awful. They've done zero world building in any of their movies that there are other super heroes, they have done nothing to link their films together, and it just screams of desperation.
RobotNinjaHornets
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But there's only been one film, Man of Steel?
obin_gam
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as mentioned earlier, the official "production name" of the film will be Sage and Milo.
Sage means "profoundly wise man", where Milo's etymology is Latin, meaning "soldier." It seems to me that they've worked on this project from the start with "Batman vs Superman" or "Batman and Superman" in total mind.
I live in Toronto, and in the past I saw production stuff for Robocop, Total Recall, and Pacific Rim. I will try to get as many photos as I can!
Can't wait for Batman to beat up Supes!
Sage means "profoundly wise man", where Milo's etymology is Latin, meaning "soldier." It seems to me that they've worked on this project from the start with "Batman vs Superman" or "Batman and Superman" in total mind.
I live in Toronto, and in the past I saw production stuff for Robocop, Total Recall, and Pacific Rim. I will try to get as many photos as I can!
Can't wait for Batman to beat up Supes!
BadAss2961
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I really don't expect this to be Batman VS Superman. I'm not even expecting them to physically fight at all. It's not time for that. They'll be at odds throughout the movie and come together in the end.
Didn't Man of Steel already introduced the movie's version of kryptonite. However, beside being radioactive rocks, it's the kryptonian atmosphere itself. They never mention it by name, but I thought there were enough nods that it was kryptonite.
MisterHero
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Lex probably grew crystals out of the "particulates". Unless he plans luring Superman into special containment rooms, I don't know how the Kryptonian "atmosphere" can be weaponized.
And Superman overpowered the World Engine. Lex is gonna have to think up something powerful to surpass it.
Lex could create kryptonite from the knowledge that the kryptonian atmosphere weakens Superman.
Pretty much. Snyder, if I recall, has said he thinks Kryptonite is "stupid". Would certainly lend weight to why it's classic form was never alluded to in the movie.
Do we still use this for news and rumor?
either way, seems Gal Gadot has said she is getting 300,000 for her appearance in Man of Steel 2 and has a 3-picture deal with Warner
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/gal-gadot-reveals-length-cost-673238
either way, seems Gal Gadot has said she is getting 300,000 for her appearance in Man of Steel 2 and has a 3-picture deal with Warner
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/gal-gadot-reveals-length-cost-673238
Marion Cobretti
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May it is then : )
3 movie deal only huh. So maybe Justice League and a potential stand alone movie, or maybe just only Justice League movies.
3 movie deal only huh. So maybe Justice League and a potential stand alone movie, or maybe just only Justice League movies.
evil solrac v3.0
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shouldn't we change the Thread title to three years of waiting now?
Marion Cobretti
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I was just gonna ask a mod.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Josh Holloway will have time since since Intelligence is not long for this world. Probably won't last the season....
BlackNMild2k1
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I'm guessing they don't have much faith in the character or the actress if they only got her for 3 pics.
Any word on tv appearances?
That was an oversight on Marvels part. If dC had plans to include the Arrowverse, then they should plan ahead for an option of tv appearances outside of the 3 picture deal.
Hopefully, there would be a MULTIverse of DC film properties. Imagine a film with Bale, Afleck, and Keaton as all Batmen; the return of Kevin Spacey as Luthor, Earth-Arrow Flash teaming up with Earth-Syder Flash, and maybe Mark Hammil as
Emperor Joker for a DC Crisis movie
BlackNMild2k1
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Well, that wouldn't be confusing... regardless of how interesting that may be.
That may be, but if they are doing the shared universe like Marvel, it may require Wonder Woman to appear in more than just the Bats vs Supes & 2 Justice League movies, which is why Marvel was signing actors to 6-8 picture deals for major roles.
If they wanted her to also do her own solo movie, then they would have to re-negotiate her contract for Justice League 2 or recast.
Seems like an avoidable hassle when Marvel already cobble stoned the path for them.
I like a variation on Matt_C's idea... cast for a separate cinematic universe, but have the more accessible film stars (you won't get Affleck but could easily get Momoa, for example) guest spot in your TV shows (like Agents of SHIELD). For example:
That way you maintain the integrity and production values of each universe but still get the benefit of combining them... it also takes a load off the writers of each to have to avoid stepping on each others' toes.
They don't have the balls or the creative coordination to pull something like that off.
There are two parties to a contract. By the time Marvel was churning out 6+ picture contracts, the Marvel Cinematic Universe was a known quantity and Marvel Studios had Disney's bankroll as a giant safety net. Who is to say the WB didn't offer a 6+ picture deal, but Gadot's representation thought it'd be better to commit to less and renegotiate later? Correspondingly she's been paid a relatively low amount for now, but can be compensated better once the DCCU is rolling along... which isn't really a bad deal for either party (by the time you have 3 pictures out of her, you can more accurately predict your box office range and contract accordingly).
MisterHero
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Depending on her screentime 300k may be too much or too little for her. S/B is going to make all sorts of money and that's all she gets? She is one of the reasons people will see the film in the first place, now that we know she's in it.
Hey, I'm all for DC doing anything and everything if it means Dean Cain can return as the ultimate Superman.
Discotheque
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Succinct Verbosity
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Donkey Kong. If Thief is good... Thief.
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Wrong thread?
I believe that $300k is the same amount that Henry Cavill got for Man Of Steel so it seems about right. In other news it's widely believed that ScarJo got only
$60k
The only 'half news' from this article that is interesting is the talk of a 3 picture deal for Gadot. I assumed that all DC's 'heroes' would potentially have a deal that would see them do (providing they are successful of course) three Justice League films and three 'stand alone' films featuring their characters.
Unless of course WB have no intention of spinning off Ms. Gadot's Wonder Woman into a series of separate films. Either that or WB will (unlike Marvel) actually be willing to pay their actors a fair wage for their roles.
*cough*
Razgriz-Specter
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We don't know for sure if Arrow and Flash series will be connected to the movie universe or not.
They hint that it might, then switch and say it might not be all the time.
WB would be stupid not to connect them imo.
Its not like Birds or Smallville which screws around with your canon.
Marvel is more dependent on churning out superhero movies than WB is, though, which is (partly) why they secure their actors for 6 or however many films.
demosthenes
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Internet, overreact to something? Never.
BlackNMild2k1
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And DC is more dependent on churning out Animated Movies than
wait, that didn't work so well in reverse.
well, WB are more dependent on animated movies (through DC) than Marvel is...
But seriously, either DC hasn't really plotted out their Cinematic Universe past Justice League, beyond maybe doing some solo movies, or like DaveH said, their agents must have negotiated for shorter contracts.
I think Marvel was smart to lock everyone in to a minimum of 6 appearances so they could sprinkle them throughout whichever movie they want and still get a movie trilogy out of them if need be.
I believe RDJ had a backend profits clause in his contract after the first movie, even though he was still contracted to 6 appearances. I know not everyone can work that kinda deal, and certainly not the majority of the people being cast (outside of maybe Afleck and maybe Phoenix) since they simply don't have the clout to pull off such a contract.
DC doesn't do anything, they don't have a film studio. It's not like Marvel, where the movies can be produced in-house, WB owns all the DC film properties. And because WB is a much bigger company than Marvel Studios, they don't need as many as superhero films on an annual basis; they have revenue coming in from other movies. Marvel on the other hand needs to be able to turn out x amount of superheromovies per year to continue existing, which is they secure their actors to a more-than-usual number of appearances.
That hasn't exactly been true ever since they were bought by Disney.
heh, I guess that's true.
Still it's obvious Disney values Marvel a hell of a lot more than WB does DC. Disney paid $4 billion dollars for Marvel. WB acquired DC over 40 years ago when their old parent company spun off it's media division.
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