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Battle for Mosul has begun. 1 million civilians trapped inside the city ruled by ISIS

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Fuchsdh

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Man they're going to murder a whole lot more people in paranoid fits before they give up. Worst case scenario they might try and destroy the whole city rather than surrender.
 
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sphagnum

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Pterion said:
How much of a presence does ISIS still have in Syria?
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Gray is ISIS, red is the Syrian government, yellow is Kurds, green is assorted rebels + Turkey

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Zubz

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The sooner the liberation efforts start getting underway, the better. Daesh is just going to get more horrific as time goes on, but I can barely stomach reading some of the stuff they're talking about. I wish the best to their victims and hope they can finally be free of Daesh soon.

Roland_Gunner said:
That map is pretty misleading. There are large parts of the Syrian interior that are almost uninhabited. No one really controls that area.
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That's good to hear; I knew they controlled a huge chunk of Syria, but I never saw it put on a map. That was (And still is) crazy unsettling.
 
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Gordon Shumway

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nomis said:
Not since the nazis has the thin veil between human rationality and id been so completely fucking obliterated. There's no way every single fighter was born so sadistic... its a doctrine of a few and everyone was forced to buy into it or face the same fate, in the process they probably learned to enjoy it

Beheading, dissolving in acid, chainsaws, buried alive, it's like daesh represents some fetishization with reducing human existence to mush in all the most horrifying ways
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WHAT THE FUCK..
 
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Mesousa said:
Does the PKK or Iraq military have an Air Force?
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PKK doesn't have an Air Force. They're an insurgency rebel group fighting for Kurdish independence in Turkey.

Turkey hates them and sees them as a bigger threat than ISIS.

Iraq formerly invited PKK and YPG to assist in liberating Mosul this week.

Turkey invited themselves to be involved in the operation.

LOL, what a mess.
 
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BronzeWolf

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sphagnum said:
Gray is ISIS, red is the Syrian government, yellow is Kurds, green is assorted rebels + Turkey
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I never thought their presence was so big. What is ISIS presence in Iraq?

Also, that Syria map looks like a clusterfuck... I am afraid that once ISIS is gone, the road to normalcy will be a little bit short of impossible
 
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Steel

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Blader said:
I don't know if eradicated will ever be possible, given the number of potential lone wolves anywhere. But I think there's a good chance Mosul falls before Obama leaves office.
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Mosul falling is pretty much guaranteed. ISIS fighters were fleeing the city before the offensive even began.
 
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Berto

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Let's hope the deserters are an indication that ISIS might implode by it self, at least in Mosul where most fighters know they can't win.
 
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Frozenprince

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sphagnum said:
Gray is ISIS, red is the Syrian government, yellow is Kurds, green is assorted rebels + Turkey
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Though most of what ISIS controls is no-mans land, central Syria outside the metro areas is a string of loosely connected villages and desert.

They have a very concentrated presence. Mostly Al Raqqa and Dier El-Ezor

Roland_Gunner said:
That map is pretty misleading. There are large parts of the Syrian interior that are almost uninhabited. No one really controls that area.
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Ah I see that this has already been addressed.
 
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TheRealTalker

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Dabiq fell to Turkish and FSA forces just a few hours ago too


mercenar1e said:
im guessing after Mosul falls the Shia militias will head into Syria.
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they are already there

more though? yeah probably


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post Deash will be interesting though seeing as a power vacuum is happening right now with PKK, Shia militas, Iran, Turkey, etc...
 
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Nothings worse than seeing them kill these people. They tape almost all of them. Stumbled on r/watchpeopledie and my jaw hit the floor, fuck ISIS
 
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HariKari said:
Eradicated? Zero. But if Mosul falls, ISIS claim to be the new caliphate will take another big blow. They could become very disorganized in a short period of time.
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They will probably turn into another taliban. They will resort to terrorist acts and indirect tactics, but at least millions of people won't by under their power anymore. I hope they capture Mosul asap.
 
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BronzeWolf said:
I never thought their presence was so big. What is ISIS presence in Iraq?

Also, that Syria map looks like a clusterfuck... I am afraid that once ISIS is gone, the road to normalcy will be a little bit short of impossible
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The whole region will stay in turmoil for decades to come sadly.
 
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Not that that entire list of executions is absolutely horrific but wtf???
9 youths alleged to be part of an anti-ISIL resistance group were reported to have been executed with electric chainsaws in Mosul
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casiopao

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What a trainwreck. Hope the best for all the people there.T_T(Except for those ISIS arse. They can die on any pit like they one there. Hope they die terrible death.)
 
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Donthizz# said:
I sure hope they kept Western side of Mosul open for a reason.
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Perhaps in the hope that ISIS forces will just flee Mosul instead of trapping them in and making them fight to the death.

I wish the Iraqi forces luck and hope for as few deaths for them and the civilian population as possible. In the long term I hope that someday a solution the the ongoing sectarian violence is achieved, I feel it would go a long way to stomping out the future versions of ISIS whatever name they take on.
 
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littleworm said:
Perhaps in the hope that ISIS forces will just flee Mosul instead of trapping them in and making them fight to the death.

I wish the Iraqi forces luck and hope for as few deaths for them and the civilian population as possible. In the long term I hope that someday a solution the the ongoing sectarian violence is achieved, I feel it would go a long way to stomping out the future versions of ISIS whatever name they take on.
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Education and economic stability are going to be the crucial to achieving those goals. It's a long, long road ahead.
 
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fanboi

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Intresting from the Guardian:

The Wall Street Journal has an interesting line – which we cannot confirm – in its piece on the battle for Mosul, suggesting that Isis has decided to give up on the city.

A mid-ranking Islamic State commander said in an interview over Facebook that the group has made a tactical decision to partially abandon Mosul, recalling their “human resources” to Syria where they hope to strengthen their foothold. “There will be no big great epic battle in Mosul,” the commander said. “The tactic now is hit-and-run.”
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Syder

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fanboi said:
A mid-ranking Islamic State commander said in an interview over Facebook that the group has made a tactical decision to partially abandon Mosul, recalling their “human resources” to Syria where they hope to strengthen their foothold. “There will be no big great epic battle in Mosul,” the commander said. “The tactic now is hit-and-run.”
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ISIS have around 10,000 militants in Mosul city and further 5,000 in the suburbs.
I wonder, logistically, how challenging it would be for ISIS to pull their forces from Mosul and relocate to say Raqqa, for example.
Seems like ISIS would rather avoid big losses in Mosul and defend Raqqa to the last man with all of their forces in a siege that would take a very long time.
 
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fanboi said:
Intresting from the Guardian:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...ttle-iraq-isis-islamic-state-peshmerga-latest
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They have been saying the same thing in every city. First Tikrit, then Fallujah, then Ramadi. Read the accounts I listed in the OP. They buried their own commanders for fleeing the battles in other villages, and now they're saying "tactical retreat". Its clear they are completely done as an organized force. US took out their high ranking generals in an impressive way. They lost their #2s in quick succession, Baghdadi whereabouts unknown, and Minister of War Al Adnani (quite easily the face of ISIS propoganda) no more.
 
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thespot84 said:
Are those kurdish forces in the white pickups/vans? figured the iraqi army would have legit troop transports\

edit: that is some impressive zoom...
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you have several thousand fighters advancing to Mosul so i guess the cheapest option to transport them would be a Toyota?
 
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thespot84

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mercenar1e said:
you have several thousand fighters advancing to Mosul so i guess the cheapest option to transport them would be a Toyota?
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Toyota? Cheapest would have been a kia or suzuki...
kidding, but fair point. I guess everyone can't spend the amount of gdp on its military that the US does

Edit: apparently scopes for the 50 cal snipers are too much also
 
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