Chubzdoomer
Banned
OMG, what a shocker! LOL
Someone posted the official stats over on the BF1 forums and it showed that the 10-A literally accounts for ~80% of shotgun kills.
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OMG, what a shocker! LOL
Someone posted the official stats over on the BF1 forums and it showed that the 10-A literally accounts for ~80% of shotgun kills.
Pretty much everything that goes on on the battlefield is caused by the players. Maybe there's a bit of background noise like explosions going off in the far distance, but there's not any scripted explosions going off on the battlefield to make it seem more hectic than it already is.
Chubzdoomer
Banned
You playing on PC? If so, add me on Origin (same username as here). Playing this game with randoms is one of the worst things ever. You really need to be in a squad with people you know to get the best experience IMO.
The Dude
Member
It is without a doubt the best shotgun though, unless they go overboard with the nerf it should just bring it back a bit more in line with the other shotguns.
No weapon should be so good that it's the go-to weapons for pretty much anyone who wants to use shotguns. The only people who don't use it are the ones who haven't unlocked it yet. I don't think I have died to any other shotgun in weeks.
A simple tweak could be a bit more damage drop-off at range, or larger pellet spread so you won't be hitting all pellets at longer ranges which leads to a lot of the one-hit-kills.
Well that's the thing, there will always be a top gun in categories. Like even when they Nerf the hunter, there will be the next shotgun that is considered the best. And the cycle sort of continues, so it's a tough situation.. Shotguns are one of those game guns that to me you can't do to much with. Closer quarter instant death is what they should be and that's about it
The Dude
Member
It's like the level 10 sniper, seems from how people sort of go nuts about it that it's pretty much the go to sniper leaving the rest behind. Same with hellriegel, I don't think the other ARs really stuck up. So for me the hunter being top makes sense and was ok imho, as there will always be a top of every weapon
The sniper is good, for more close range combat. Which is good for the more aggressive snipers. But it also has huge downsides like no optic scope and very slow projectile speed, making it much less usable at longer ranges where other snipers like the Gewehr 98 shows its strength.
And while I like the Hellriegel, I still prefer the MP18 trench because of its much better hipfire accuracy.
I don't think either of those 2 guns are as superior to the other guns as the Hunter is.
And like you said, there will always be some weapon that is more favoured than others, but if the stats someone mentioned where correct (the Hunter making up 80% of shotgun kills), then it is clearly way to good compared to the rest of the shotguns.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
can they nerf fao fortress and by nerf i mean delete from the entire fucking game
Chubzdoomer
Banned
Amen to that!
Would be nice if I could throw dynamite a bit further. It sort of always lands at my feet. Half the time I get killed trying to get to a safe distance before detonating, or I blow myself skywards along with my intended target.
Sometimes this is intentional, I'm not above the odd bit of suicide bombing. Although I did a great accidental one, on Fao Fortress where I dropped a stick off the battlements and inadvertently fell off right after it and followed it right down to land in the middle of a group of 4 or 5 enemies. Detonated anyway. Kaboom.
Sometimes this is intentional, I'm not above the odd bit of suicide bombing. Although I did a great accidental one, on Fao Fortress where I dropped a stick off the battlements and inadvertently fell off right after it and followed it right down to land in the middle of a group of 4 or 5 enemies. Detonated anyway. Kaboom.
The Janitor
Member
You misspelled Suez
Joel Was Right
Gold Member
Are there Gaffers who play this regularly on Xbox?
This. What a complete and utter shit map. To This day its the only map in bf1 which made me ragequit. Spawn in, get killed by Shotgun. And repeat. Fuck that shit.
DaciaJC
Gold Member
DICE's "fix" for Suez was quite laughable as well.
Thank fuck. Every time I've played the game since the latest "patch" I've seen nothing but shotguns and remember why I haven't touched the game in a few weeks because of it.
So dumb to be mid-range ADS firing at a shotgun user only for them to one-pump and kill me.
I don't know how you can come to the conclusion, that this change would fix the map.
Sarcasm? An i5 should be more than enough for Frostbite. So an i7 should kill it.
Summer Haze
Banned
Lol...just went 176-8 in a tank on Sinai Desert Operations. 40+ flag defends too. We still lost because the enemy team was aggressive as fuck. One of the best games I've had so far.
kriskrosbbk
Member
I got 3/5 puzzle pieces for the bludgeon really fucking quick but haven't gotten anymore in forever
Absolutely the same here.Thought the same last night.
appaws
Banned
Hey I'd like to get in on some games with Gaffers, so I can use my headset and maybe have some actual teamwork. (PC)
Let me be frank though. I really suck, and I am not sure practice is going to make me get any better. I'm 42 and I think I have lost the hand/eye and mental acuity it takes to complete in multiplayer fps....I see people, they kill me before I kill them...
that said, I do work with people, help squad members, follow squad orders, give people ammo, etc. I'm not an asshat.
Let me be frank though. I really suck, and I am not sure practice is going to make me get any better. I'm 42 and I think I have lost the hand/eye and mental acuity it takes to complete in multiplayer fps....I see people, they kill me before I kill them...
that said, I do work with people, help squad members, follow squad orders, give people ammo, etc. I'm not an asshat.
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
One of the most atrocious Conquest maps I have ever seen and pretty shit on every other mode too. Absolutely agree with you.
Also yay for the 10A nerf, about time, DICE should have done that a month ago.
Grabbing my popcorn for the Disagree Guy meltdown.
Gnome Scat
Member
Fao isn't that bad, but I've noticed that the Arabian maps are a step down from the rest. Suez is pretty trash and Sinai is mediocre.
Spat_triate
Member
The desert maps do feel like they were designed by the "B" team. Suez and Fao fortress are really bad. Monte Grappa's bunkers need more ways of getting in but it's a fun map with all the verticality. Amiens and ballroom blitz are my favorites, some nice ebb and flow on those.
Dot Matrix
Member
Meh, I don't notice that I get killed by the Model 10 than any other gun these days. If anything I get killed by snipers more than all the other classes put together. I'm trying to get a service star with every weapon so I've got kills with every gun, and while I did notice that the M-10 got me more kills quicker than the other shotguns, I don't think it needs a massive nerf. Maybe a couple of tweaks but I don't think people will notice a massive difference.
I'm level 10 on all classes except pilot and jockey and I don't think any gun is hugely OP. They are all situational and people who use the M-10 tend to stay out of open spaces and make proper use of them in close quarters. They get the occasional long shot kill but that can be fixed with a slight increase in buckshot spread. Maybe even a very small time increase between shots. But people who are proficient with the gun won't be affected too much.
I used to think the Martini Henry was OP but since I unlocked it I see how using it correctly takes some skill. If it had the same scope as the Gewher Carbine I'd never use another gun.
Suez does need another rehash though, the 5 in a line design for conquest is dumb as all hell. At least make it a cross pattern, or even a 4 point square pattern or something.
I'm level 10 on all classes except pilot and jockey and I don't think any gun is hugely OP. They are all situational and people who use the M-10 tend to stay out of open spaces and make proper use of them in close quarters. They get the occasional long shot kill but that can be fixed with a slight increase in buckshot spread. Maybe even a very small time increase between shots. But people who are proficient with the gun won't be affected too much.
I used to think the Martini Henry was OP but since I unlocked it I see how using it correctly takes some skill. If it had the same scope as the Gewher Carbine I'd never use another gun.
Suez does need another rehash though, the 5 in a line design for conquest is dumb as all hell. At least make it a cross pattern, or even a 4 point square pattern or something.
breadtruck
Member
Agreed.
I unlocked it simply because it was the weapon I was killed by 98% of the time. It was pretty obvious that the weapon was the go-to choice for cheap kills.
Jack Scofield
Member
I'm really hoping the DLC maps don't have capture points in a straight line. Those maps are the worst.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
The Model 10 hunter is super inconsistent for me. I never get 1 hit kills with it even in close quarters. And most of the time if i don't ads i don't even get two hit kills.
Tbh, i thought it was nerfed already.
Heilreiger isn't my jam either. It takes one to two more bullets to kill compared to the mp18 and that's just not good enough.
Tbh, i thought it was nerfed already.
Heilreiger isn't my jam either. It takes one to two more bullets to kill compared to the mp18 and that's just not good enough.
Chubzdoomer
Banned
Same. There are already too many like that. Even Monte Grappa can feel that way sometimes, even despite not actually being designed that way. I wish we had more truly non-linear maps like St. Quentin and even Amiens.
If you're not getting 1 hit kills from close quarters then your shooting is off. Blast a guy full on and he definitely dies with 1 shot.
-MD-
Member
Good, can't wait for the tears from all the baddies that cling to that gun.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I can't play with randoms anymore. Anyone wanna group up? Psn: thenegativedude
Mechanized
Member
If the 10-a is getting nerfed they better buff the auto shotties. You can spam a whole clip at close range and have NOTHING hit. Not one pellet. It's nuts.
Gnome Scat
Member
My favorites are the Northern France maps; the Italian maps are decent and the Arabian maps overall are pretty subpar by Conquest standards. They're all pretty fun in Operations.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Probably one of the best games out of all platforms to be honest. Very good.
Nice. I imagine it will feel like an eternity until you rank 100. I'm rank 84 and it takes 6 hours* to rank up. Too bad you play on X1, I'd roll with you in my squad.
*According to Battlefield 1. In reality it's like 4 with the way I play.
There's a "spread" but generally the shotgun is inconsistent for me as well. The general idea is to shoot center of mass in close-quarters while hip-firing. Mid-range, you want to flick ADS to abuse the accuracy boost ADS gives you then fire right after your ADS is "up" while your lowering the gun in that flick maneuver to get around the spread deviation at range.
It's a dumb thing, though.
seriosbrad
Member
You'll just hear the same shit about the next best weapon. Probably the Automatico.
I was pumped to buy this and then promptly went back to the MP18. I just do not like the automatico
WhiskerFrisker
Member
*Enemy player about 10-20 meters in front of me. I'll delete them in 1-2 seconds because the gun is beast as hell*I was pumped to buy this and then promptly went back to the MP18. I just do not like the automatico
The scout class has so many good weapons man. The M95 Carbine is so damn awesome. Over 1000 kills with it now. Been using the Gewehr 98 sniper as my main sniper for ages now, but I've just recently switched to the m1903 sniper as well, and I like that one alot too.
The Gewehr 98 marksman is also very good when it comes to more mid range targets. Although it can easily do +200m headshots as well as shown below.
The Gewehr 98 marksman is also very good when it comes to more mid range targets. Although it can easily do +200m headshots as well as shown below.
Chubzdoomer
Banned
Jesus... they have seriously got to do something about the lack of bullet drop. The old system was way better.
DaciaJC
Gold Member
Agreed. I'm not a fan of the sweet-spot mechanic, either.
MissCauthon
Member
Whats the 2nd best gun after the hunter? And whats is best to use when playing medic?
WhiskerFrisker
Member
Sweeper, Selblaster (26 in a clip) , or Mondragon for medic guns.
Chubzdoomer
Banned
For Medic, I personally prefer the Selbstlader 1916 for mid-range and Sweeper for close-to-mid range. The Cel-Rigotti (starting rifle) can also be pretty decent in full-auto mode, but I still prefer the Sweeper since it has a larger magazine.
The thing about the Selbstlader that's so good is that it only takes 3 shots at most to kill people, and it has a whopping 26 bullets per magazine which is just ridiculous. The Mondragon is extremely similar, but it only has 10 bullets per magazine.
MissCauthon
Member
The optical one?