Disagree Guy
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I seriously don't understand this when they actually REDUCE the recoil on the MP18
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I seriously don't understand this when they actually REDUCE the recoil on the MP18
Yes! Yes! YES!
Because it was manageable before and now it's super manageable.
Disagree Guy
Member
Seriously calling this as DICE's next patch.
I mean they base their current patches on nothing at all so....
Disagree Guy
Member
Two seperate groups -
1 goes for A
1 goes for C
B becomes much easier to take.
Going for B is just throwing tickets away unless you've got the other two already
Seriously calling this as DICE's next patch.
I mean they base their current patches on nothing at all so....
DICE needs to lay off on balancing patches until Premium DLC1 comes out. They need to be doing bug fixes, UI improvements, and redoing the medal system and that's all.
Is there anything in the patch notes implying they're actually listening to the community besides the Model 10 being nerfed?
Disagree Guy
Member
I highly doubt it since they keep on making attacking easier in operations.....
It's already a joke in how attacking = automatic win but now with these extras? haha
Daffy Duck
Member
Disagree Guy
Member
Tomorrow.
old manatee
Banned
Patch looks good, but I'm surprised there aren't more changes to the audio. I don't think it's working as intended.
Maybe a working "quit" button is part of the "improved"...
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Happy they are adjusting rear gunner damage in planes. Should make dogfighting fun again
Lazy Lemmy
Neo Member
So Lazy...but does someone have a link for the patch notes?
Disagree Guy
Member
They haven't been officially announced by DICE yet so if you want guarantees you best off waiting for tomorrow when it drops
Last ditch hope that Model 10 doesn't get nerfed
Disagree Guy
Member
Lazy Lemmy
Neo Member
Thanks bud.
I have so many games to play, with every intention of doing so....but it's ALWAYS the BF disk that goes into my Pro.
To help, before selling my OG I have taken it to work to play through some games at lunch time....
Disagree Guy
Member
I know exactly what you mean. My backlog keeps growing, I keep buying new games.....
BF1 keeps getting played. Even if they nerf the model 10 like mad I'll still keep playing haha. It's so addictive with a group.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Wonder if the Pro version is fixed as well.
Generalpsyduck
Banned
That standard issue mode sounds dope.
Lazy Lemmy
Neo Member
What's wrong with it?
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
A big lol at the salt from the 10A nerfs and minor buffs to other weapons like the MP18, don't see the problem with those. Automatico will still be the better choice at very close range and Hellriegel has a bigger mag and more overall versatility, so I am fine with the Assault having a solid mid range and "I punish you with my hipfire lazers if you fail to use Shotguns properly for OHK or are using spray and pray at higher RPM as a crutch". Assault needs something for midrange as they are needed as the primary AT class even on larger, more open maps. I will take that over 20m+ Shotgun oneshot hipfire kills every day of he week. Shotgun balance now seems fine, if the Full-Autos are now wortwhile. 10A should now be the 870m it should have been all along. Still wondering about Slugs though, no buff and in the current state underpowered.
And you guys are missing the biggest balance change IMO: The Landship is now finally worth it
It now has as much armour/HP as a heavy tank, an actually cannon for the driver with the squad support version ( so you are not at the complete mercy of your sidegunners against either infanty or tanks if you use Mortar and Tank Hunter versions respectively) that is great against infantry and light vehicles. You finally have people spawning on you instead of a constantly empty tank that was worthless for relying on being fully crewed and utterly at the mercy of teammates willing to run up to and climb into it.
And the open ground flag defend Mortar tank now has 4 passenger seats and increased range.
Also Standard Issue rifle mode, the thing we have been hoping all along, even with all the classes being able to equip them and still being able to give players SMGs and LMGs so it is really historically accurate. Now we only have to find a server with it. Love that DICE is actually listening to the community (medal system aside, kek).
And you guys are missing the biggest balance change IMO: The Landship is now finally worth it
It now has as much armour/HP as a heavy tank, an actually cannon for the driver with the squad support version ( so you are not at the complete mercy of your sidegunners against either infanty or tanks if you use Mortar and Tank Hunter versions respectively) that is great against infantry and light vehicles. You finally have people spawning on you instead of a constantly empty tank that was worthless for relying on being fully crewed and utterly at the mercy of teammates willing to run up to and climb into it.
And the open ground flag defend Mortar tank now has 4 passenger seats and increased range.
Also Standard Issue rifle mode, the thing we have been hoping all along, even with all the classes being able to equip them and still being able to give players SMGs and LMGs so it is really historically accurate. Now we only have to find a server with it. Love that DICE is actually listening to the community (medal system aside, kek).
Disagree Guy
Member
Please, you are a couple of pages too late to laugh about that.
We'll see how much of a difference it actually makes
I am actually pretty stoked to try out the other shotties if the hunter is indeed fucked
Disagree Guy
Member
I need some of your optimism.
I didn't get 44 service stars on the Model 10 simply from killing at long range after all
I'm with you man
I need some of your optimism.
I didn't get 44 service stars on the Model 10 simply from killing at long range after all
I'm with you man
Sweet baby jesus!
Disagree Guy
Member
Played over 120 games with UKps4Gaf.
Almost exclusively used the Model 10. Next most kills is Dynamite with 400+.
That's using it on every single map.
VincentMatts
Member
No mention of Pro. Hopefully there some fixes there as well
Reckless Onion
Member
VincentMatts
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I tried the hunter for like half a round before i quit. such an inconsistent weapon. When people shot me with it from half way across the map, i would die in one hit. but i couldnt buy a 1HK with it. I dont think it's my aim either because i was a god with shotguns in Blops 3.
Anyway, i am glad about the nerf. the range was ridiculous. i dont mind losing to shotgunners in close quarters but people were sniping with that shit. lol
I skimmed through all the patch notes, but aside from the operations post match screen i dont see any of the fixes for issues i have encountered below. Now granted, most of these are cosmetic but I am surprised they havent been resolved.
- Post match level up screen doesn't show level progress correctly. the level up bar always starts at 90%
- First round of operations does not have a post match screen, you dont get to see how you did. XP earned during the first round doesnt get taken into account at the end of the last round so you dont get any win bonus for the first 1-2 maps.
- Quitting out of matches in the post match screen takes forever
- No way to leave the mortar screen. maybe this is just me? i swear ive pressed every single button on the conrtroller.
- no way to track multiple medals at once. surely this cant be by design?
Anyway, i am glad about the nerf. the range was ridiculous. i dont mind losing to shotgunners in close quarters but people were sniping with that shit. lol
I skimmed through all the patch notes, but aside from the operations post match screen i dont see any of the fixes for issues i have encountered below. Now granted, most of these are cosmetic but I am surprised they havent been resolved.
- Post match level up screen doesn't show level progress correctly. the level up bar always starts at 90%
- First round of operations does not have a post match screen, you dont get to see how you did. XP earned during the first round doesnt get taken into account at the end of the last round so you dont get any win bonus for the first 1-2 maps.
- Quitting out of matches in the post match screen takes forever
- No way to leave the mortar screen. maybe this is just me? i swear ive pressed every single button on the conrtroller.
- no way to track multiple medals at once. surely this cant be by design?
Disagree Guy
Member
This 100%
You also gain battlepacks on the first map too! I once ended the game and checked my battlepacks and I had 2!
One for each map. It just didn't let me know.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
It's true though.
I'm not sure I like the nerf to the tail gunner seat. I'll admit that sometimes I killed pursuers quickly but they started shooting me from quite a bit back. I'll see how bad it is
Disagree Guy
Member
It's not true. You can get n00bs or good players using any gun.
Actually they only nerfed one shotgun, they buffed the others.
Secondly I agree with the behemoth changes but the changes to attacking certain locations means they've buffed attacking AGAIN
It's already ridiculously easy to win an attack haha
Think its a good nerf. The whole reason fighter planes used bombs to kill bombers Was that they otherwise you got rekt hard by the rear gunner.
They nerfed the bombs now against other planes and also nerfed the rear gunner. And buffed the LMG of the figher abit more. So you get now more normal dogfights.
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
I got murdered by Attack Plane tail gunners in the span of 3 seconds when I got even near them with my Fighters, despite having full health. I am not even making this up (did it quite a few times myself after spawning on planes).
The nerfs to tail gunners and bomber durability against Fighters are extremely needed, outside the Trench Fighter that was too strong for all the wrong reasons there was absolutely zero reason to ever use a Fighter plane (which in itself is absolutely paradoxical - air superiority is supposed to be their only job and role).
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Yeah a solo attack plane was more effective that the fighters because of the tail gun. All you had to do was pitch up, swap seats and do more damage to the fighter than they could to you.
That was exactly my first impression (posted it in here too) but when you keep playing, you will get more and more of these mid range kills, while wrecking fool in close range. The inconsistency stays but it leans in favor OHK ppl more than not killing them.
Disagree Guy
Member
I'd disagree with this.
44 service stars in and I'd say only once or twice a night does it kill people from stupid range. I loudly exclaim it over headset when it happens haha.
Other than that it takes a good 2-3 shots from range to kill people.
As far as I see it - if you are a sniper or LMG guy and you can't take me down while I zig-zag, drop to prone, use cover etc.. and I get in range to kill you with multiple hits, it's nothing to do with the shotty being OP. It's to do with the shooter being shit.
The inconsistency comes from when you are close enough that you could stick the gun in their mouth and it doesn't kill them.....
EDIT - just checked and I'm 55th in the world for Model 10 hunter kills on PS4
1st in the UK for PS4
And i've played the least games of anyone above me! haha. 241 games with it while they all have like 600+
Lazy Lemmy
Neo Member
Does the Pro patch affect MP or just SP?
They probably were like 1 health then haha.
Disagree Guy
Member
Exactly. There is no way you can consistently kill people from stupid range and full health OHKO.
I say this from experience. Incidentally the most experience in the UK haha.
I do know that PC experiences it far more readily than PS4. There is no surprise that the top kills globally is massively weighted in PC favour even though much less players play on PC.
That certainly did happen.
But I got a couple that were full health that way as well. Perhaps not 50m away, but certainly 20 or more.
Oh and no, I'm not talking consistently. As I've had plenty of instances where someone is 2 meters in front of me and I need to hit them 2-3 times and even then can't kill them. Hitmarkers and all.