If there is one and it's released close to the launch of the game I think I'll bite, even if I'll feel like a cunt for doing so.Emily Chu said:wasn't there a 20$ pack that lets you unlock everything in BC2 ?
so gonna buy that because I just don't have the fucking time and want to play with the weapons I already paid fucking 69.99$ for
Hellcrow said:I hate unlocks. I fucking HATE unlocks.
But I love Battlefield.
Fuck, it is stupid that I have to crawl through piss just so I can have a competent gun or being able to have a even dog fight. Why can I only use the machine gun, while Mr. Baron rapes everything in the air because he has played every single hour since the beta has been released and has flares, rockets and fucking stealth?
It did as far as I can remember.Emily Chu said:did BF2 have unlocks ?
Emily Chu said:did BF2 have unlocks ?
I agree.iam220 said:As someone who just dominated as a chopper gunner it's say its far from useless. VS infantary it seems to do more damage than bc2 gunner currently does.
Jets do suck though.
Nekrono said:Just tried the new AMD drivers and even though the Catalyst Creator tweeted there's no performance improvements for BF3 I don't know if it's just me or what but I feel the game runs better and even if there isn't a framerate gain the game doesn't feel so damn sluggish when it's on the low 30's like before, also I haven't seen any screen flickering yet.
I'm playing US ya, maybe I'm just unlucky with my server choices but 90% of my deaths are from someone prone somewhere, not doing anything productive.iam220 said:Are you playing on US servers? Everyone is constantly capping flags, it's really hectic. Try defending checkpoint or gas station.
New ones from yesterday.Megasoum said:Are you talking about the drivers that came out on the first day of the beta or there's been new ones since?
omnomis said:"Infantry Complainers", aka "Battlefield Players". Sorry if 60 out of 64 players on your server don't like getting butt raped by your jet.
iam220 said:As someone who just dominated as a chopper gunner it's say its far from useless. VS infantary it seems to do more damage than bc2 gunner currently does.
Jets do suck though.
The jet pilots in BF2 were basically angry, vengeful gods. None of the anti-air solutions worked reliably and the splash on the bombs rivaled tactical nukes.Woo-Fu said:If 60 players get buttraped by a jet they suck. I don't fly jets, btw.
SapientWolf said:The jet pilots in BF2 were basically angry, vengeful gods. None of the anti-air solutions worked reliably and the splash on the bombs rivaled tactical nukes.
Right. Thanks!aeiko said:my brother's game does this on his pc.. everytime he scopes in with the sniper on caspian.. it drops to like 16 fps or so. im sure the performance will be better on the retail.. it is just beta.
SapientWolf said:The jet pilots in BF2 were basically angry, vengeful gods. None of the anti-air solutions worked reliably and the splash on the bombs rivaled tactical nukes.
Nekrono said:Just tried the new AMD drivers and even though the Catalyst Creator tweeted there's no performance improvements for BF3 I don't know if it's just me or what but I feel the game runs better and even if there isn't a framerate gain the game doesn't feel so damn sluggish when it's on the low 30's like before, also I haven't seen any screen flickering yet.
Emily Chu said:wasn't there a 20$ pack that lets you unlock everything in BC2 ?
I don't recall ever being able to tell jet pilots anything because all they did was play "score more than everyone on the map." Most of the time jets didn't even engage enemy jets. They all just had an agreement that they were going to carpet bomb infantry the entire game and pad their stats.Woo-Fu said:I played BF2. If we had a problem with an enemy jet we sent one of ours after it. If their pilots were that much better than our pilots we deserved to get bombs dropped on our heads.
It depends how you view it, in order to get all of the weapons you needed to put in an insane amount of time. However, unless you really played as all classes you didn't really need to unlock all of the weapons anyway (you could choose which weapons to unlock yourself) so you pretty quickly got all the weapons you wanted. It was also much better balanced because the unlocks were not really upgrades as much as "sidegrades" so you didn't really feel gimped when using the standard ones. It was also only weapons, so you didn't have to unlock the ability to use the machine gun in a tank and other such insane bullshit. I'd say unlocks were good in BF2, but ever since CoD4 all unlock systems have been complete shit.TheJerit said:yes and it was the worst out of all of them or atleast that's my lasting impression of it.....
The jets weren't evenly matched though. China's J-10 could fly circles around everyone. Post 1942 air balance has always been shaky. I think they should err on the side of infantry, for now, because people still line up to fly the jets even when they're not much of a threat.Woo-Fu said:I played BF2. If we had a problem with an enemy jet we sent one of ours after it. If their pilots were that much better than our pilots we deserved to get bombs dropped on our heads.
SapientWolf said:The jets weren't evenly matched though. China's J-10 could fly circles around everyone. Post 1942 air balance has always been shaky. I think they should err on the side of infantry, for now, because people still line up to fly the jets even when they're not much of a threat.
Flak, my man. Flak. It kept those fly boys in check. But it wasn't OP.Spl1nter said:fuck 1942 air balance, the Zero wrecked shit.
and then become worthless against tanks. There's balance I think, and honestly are we factoring in the fact that u can get all kinds of perks for ur jets once you've leveled it up? Are jets still worthless once you've upgraded them all the way?Kyaw said:The problem now is that the Super Hornets and Flankers do fuck all to the infantry while the infantry can all troll around with Stingers...
SapientWolf said:The jets weren't evenly matched though. China's J-10 could fly circles around everyone. Post 1942 air balance has always been shaky. I think they should err on the side of infantry, for now, because people still line up to fly the jets even when they're not much of a threat.
scoobs said:and then become worthless against tanks. There's balance I think, and honestly are we factoring in the fact that u can get all kinds of perks for ur jets once you've leveled it up? Are jets still worthless once you've upgraded them all the way?
iSurvivedTheOutage said:they seriously have to fix this bug. Mad annoying.
Woo-Fu said:The nose cannon is great vs. infantry. It is getting to that infantry that is a problem. If there is one engineer with a stinger between Point A and Point B you're not going to make it, even with flares because he reloads/re-locks faster than you can get out of range and faster than your flares recycle.
It could be a nuclear bomb but without a reliable delivery system it isn't much use.
Woo-Fu said:I played BF2. If we had a problem with an enemy jet we sent one of ours after it. If their pilots were that much better than our pilots we deserved to get bombs dropped on our heads.
Do the upgrades the jets get not help at all? Also, if engis are shooting down air, they're getting blown up by tanks.Metalmurphy said:So Jets aren't worthless because they can serve as cannon fodder for Engineers, leaving Tanks alone.
That's some genius balancing right there.
iam220 said:Interesting. Well if stinger missiles are the only thing cramping the helis style than I'm sure it's something that can be easily addressed.
Overpowered vehicles are not a good thing even if the other team gets one too.
scoobs said:Do the upgrades the jets get not help at all? Also, if engis are shooting down air, they're getting blown up by tanks.
Woo-Fu said:That is just it, though, there are only so many jets to go around, you don't need to make them weaker so everybody isn't a pilot, everybody can't be a pilot.
Get out of my head. My sentiments exactly.PNstyle said:Lagless Caspian Border is so good that I want to have sex with/on/in it.
abuC said:I can't get into any games, I've played the beta a total of 17 seconds and have spent around 2 hours waiting to connect.
iam220 said:Disagree with that reasoning. Overpowered vehicles are not a good thing even if the other team gets one too.
SapientWolf said:Flak, my man. Flak. It kept those fly boys in check. But it wasn't OP.
They didn't nerf jets per se. They just required you to unlock their features. What they really did is buff anti air, and after BF2 it's easy to see why.skullwolfgp said:Agreed, and the only reason they nerfed the jets IMO is so that K/D whores don't freak out when a guy is able to go 50/4 because he was playing air support the whole round. It never ruined BF2 because no one really cared about K/D there.