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Battlefield 3 |OT| My Body is Advised
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I copied it from my PS3, it's the real deal :\
:lol they barely changed it, which is fine by me. The FOV is so small with it anyway that it makes CQC almost impossible.
Anton Sugar
Member
Check my post a bit up the page about the vid Demize posted. Maybe he posted it in response to this vid?
Regardless, I don't think it's been nerfed at all--seems the same, in the vid I posted.
Yeah, in the vid you posted, I don't see any difference, really. If that's all they are going to do with it, then nothing will change and everyone will still use it.
OgTheClever
Member
That's really crap, it's my main issue with the game now except for not being able to exit after the game and no custom servers.
Anton Sugar
Member
Demize just posted a list of proposed balance changes they're testing. They're looking for feedback.
Lots of good ideas. Don't know how I feel about the spawn protection changes.
Lots of good ideas. Don't know how I feel about the spawn protection changes.
Spawn protection changes are great - so frustrating to die as I spawn without getting the chance to do anything. Doesn't happen frequently though.
Overall, changes look good. Killing tanks will become much easier with the changes to repair time and MBT damage. Increasing the speed at which a player can shoot after sprinting will probably affect me the most, since I catch SO MANY people mid-sprint.
Its more like the beta in that video. As in lights affect it a lot more.
Anton Sugar
Member
My only real concern is that aiming/looking doesn't remove spawn protection. Don't like the idea of someone being able to line up a shot while being invulnerable.
It would only be 2 seconds, but that can be a lot in the middle of a firefight.
There's really only one flag in the game where I think this could be a problem, and that's the hill flag on Caspian.
I can approve of all of those changes. Especially the one about the laser designator not jumping between to targets that are close by and tank shells killing air vehicles straight away.
Hell yes to AA missiles not instakilling the pilot randomly!
Increased damage to top-attack missiles is interesting, but I've seen and participated firsthand in guided shell + CITV fuckfests in which the majority of the team's engineers also used Javelins. Not pretty.
I agree on this as well. Does it apply to revive, or just spawn? At spawn points its not too bad, to prevent spawn camping, but spawn on teammate in a firefight with 2 seconds to line up a shot is too much I think.
Anton Sugar
Member
A good CITV team is kinda of like a god on the battlefield. I went 26-0 pretty comfortably one round, although the opposing team wasn't that great, I suppose.
Like most of those changes but the spawn change. I've never had a problem with spawning into somewhere and dying (except spawning on Spl1nter). My biggest problem is taking a point, clearing an area, turning around and someone spawns directly behind me, aimed at me and now has 2 sec invuln. I don't understand why they couldn't do it like BC2 where they spawned the enemy AWAY from people on the point. They really try to punish people who aim and people who clear areas properly.
Also leave the gunner damage as it is. Making it more powerful vs infantry and less powerful vs armoured is just going to lead to absolute rapage.
I could finally stop using this legitimate exploit if they did this. Although, it basically looks next to useless if this change goes through. I don't think I'd mind too much though.
And then I found this. lulz, great work Dice! It looks totally different! Troll face should have been up in the corner spinning during this video.
RibbedHero
Member
Not all that BF3 related, but watch this guy with mad Photoshop skills make a fan-made BF3 wallpaper.
So amazing. Using it now.
So amazing. Using it now.
Wolf Akela
Member
So much QQ in the comments section of the IRNV nerf vid.
I am okay with the nerf. Scopes boiled down to either IRNV or a high-powered one for very long distance sniping.
I am okay with the nerf. Scopes boiled down to either IRNV or a high-powered one for very long distance sniping.
I don't think you(or they) were watching the right video. It is barely changed at all.
No, look at the vid I posted. Huge change (if real).
Wolf Akela
Member
Metro is nowhere near that smokey with IRNV last time I played.
There are two videos. One with the PS3 patch from yesterday that changed almost nothing. The other is proposed changes which make it more like beta and wash it out a lot more with lights.
Anton Sugar
Member
There is no nerf to the IRNV in PS3. I don't know WTF is going on in that one vid, but it's not "real", as in, an intended change.
SirButterstick
Banned
My question is how? I've been running the Laser Pointer and AGTMs on the Scout Heli, and I find that more often than not, the missles miss after I get a lock with the pointer. I really hope they fix that.
My opinion on the proposed changes. No opinion means its an obvious change that should be in the game anyway.
Vehicles:
Increased the locking distance for Jets when locking on laser designated targets.
- Required change, no reason to use laser guided bombs as the range and damage of rocket pods is greater.
Increased the damage the MBT's primary weapon does to other main battle tanks.
- Agree with this change if, the increase in damage is more focused on rear and side armor. Direction does not influence tank battle enough.
Reduced the direct damage done by helicopter gunners vs armor
- The gun was clearly too powerful against armor targets. No real reason to use laser guided missiles with the power of the gun against armor
Slightly increased the blast radius of the rounds fired by helicopter gunners vs infantry.
- Agree with a slight buff. Playing infantry, the helicopter gunner simply doesnt seem effective enough against me
Weapons:
Significantly increased the damage of Laser Guided Top Attack missiles.
- Will help make people team up more to use the soflam.
Javelin missiles fired without laser targeting now do more damage to the side and rear of MBTs.
- Was a clear issue that a missile that can only target vehicles did last damage regardless of directional impact
Slightly reduced the repair speed of the repair tool.
- Disagree with changing repair speed. More in favour of making the overheat and cool down period more significant
Slightly reduced the locking time of all weapons vs Laser Designated targets.
- Helps when teaming up with the soflam. By the time the soflam gets a lock, than the javelin gets a lock, soflam target is lost
Slightly reduced the effective blast radius of the RPG and SMAW projectiles against infantry.
- Only reason I fear this change is because of the difficulty to kill someone who is repairing a vehicle. However, clearly a trade off is required given the effectiveness of the RPG/SMAW against infantry
Soldiers:
Increased the spawn protection time from 1sec to 2sec. The protection will still be immediately canceled as soon as the player moves or shoots.
- Horrible idea. It is the players fault for spawning into a dangerous area
Spawn protection will no longer be canceled by the player looking around.
- Issues already stated
Slightly increased the speed at which a player can shoot again after sprinting.
- Helps run and gunning
Looks like a good list of changes to me.
Vehicles:
Increased the locking distance for Jets when locking on laser designated targets.
- Required change, no reason to use laser guided bombs as the range and damage of rocket pods is greater.
Increased the damage the MBT's primary weapon does to other main battle tanks.
- Agree with this change if, the increase in damage is more focused on rear and side armor. Direction does not influence tank battle enough.
Reduced the direct damage done by helicopter gunners vs armor
- The gun was clearly too powerful against armor targets. No real reason to use laser guided missiles with the power of the gun against armor
Slightly increased the blast radius of the rounds fired by helicopter gunners vs infantry.
- Agree with a slight buff. Playing infantry, the helicopter gunner simply doesnt seem effective enough against me
Weapons:
Significantly increased the damage of Laser Guided Top Attack missiles.
- Will help make people team up more to use the soflam.
Javelin missiles fired without laser targeting now do more damage to the side and rear of MBTs.
- Was a clear issue that a missile that can only target vehicles did last damage regardless of directional impact
Slightly reduced the repair speed of the repair tool.
- Disagree with changing repair speed. More in favour of making the overheat and cool down period more significant
Slightly reduced the locking time of all weapons vs Laser Designated targets.
- Helps when teaming up with the soflam. By the time the soflam gets a lock, than the javelin gets a lock, soflam target is lost
Slightly reduced the effective blast radius of the RPG and SMAW projectiles against infantry.
- Only reason I fear this change is because of the difficulty to kill someone who is repairing a vehicle. However, clearly a trade off is required given the effectiveness of the RPG/SMAW against infantry
Soldiers:
Increased the spawn protection time from 1sec to 2sec. The protection will still be immediately canceled as soon as the player moves or shoots.
- Horrible idea. It is the players fault for spawning into a dangerous area
Spawn protection will no longer be canceled by the player looking around.
- Issues already stated
Slightly increased the speed at which a player can shoot again after sprinting.
- Helps run and gunning
Looks like a good list of changes to me.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Why not just give it x durability and let it be blown up due to normal fighting?
So retarded to do it that way.
I'm still bitter they mislead people so much about it.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Just always think to yourself: 1080p, 60fps, GAF server.
Your urge to play will go instantly.
José Mourinho
cocknose
So when are these console patches out? I read the 30th somewhere but I didn't get anything (360).
Or he can play with some of GAF that isn't engineer 24/7. (*cough*)
Anton Sugar
Member
José Mourinho
cocknose
Who come you have the Engineer as your picture. Me and all my friends have the Assault guy.
Hahah, that's how I used to be, but I've seen the light and do much better with assault.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/Commish33/stats/360757835/
Even though I have significantly more time in with engineer, my assault score is higher.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Holy shit, I thought I was bad
I pick a different class, come across a tank, die and feel vulnerable and spawn instantly as an engineer and go kick his ass.
I'm not apologising for it at all
BattleMonkey
Member
Er yea how do you change that? Can I pick the Russians?
*edit nvm: found it, just edit your battlelog profile and you can change your soldier pic to any of the classes for either side
I pick a different class, come across a tank, die and feel vulnerable and spawn instantly as an engineer and go kick his ass.
I'm not apologising for it at all
I miss the engineer mines most of all. Always easy kills because tank drivers are dumb and jeeps move too fast.
The only time I go engineer nowadays is when I use vehicles or to take out a particular tank at a flag.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Yep, check how many kills I've got with them. I have probably 3x vehicle disables with them, but they don't track that.
Also, I have no idea about the picture. Don't believe I've ever edited it. Based on stats maybe?
Anton Sugar
Member
I pick a different class, come across a tank, die and feel vulnerable and spawn instantly as an engineer and go kick his ass.
I'm not apologising for it at all
I agree--the game demands and rewards engineer play. I've been trying to branch out lately, though.
...... so don't you get bored and want some variety? I mean at least try and play the other 2 classes
support doesn't count, its truly a boring useless class
That's true to an extent, but usually there are SO MANY engineers on my team that they can take care of tanks.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Destroying/fighting vehicles is honestly the most fun I have in the game. Engineer is best equipped for that, so he's the logical choice for me.
Shooting guys is better in COD so if I wanted to do that I'd just go play COD instead. Putting down health packs/ammo? Borrringg. Let me sneak around a tank and blow it the fuck up
I've started sniping on HC servers (regular servers require too many shots, doesn't feel right) but other than that? Nope, not really. There's not much in other classes I feel like I'm missing out on, for the above reason. C4 and that cool flying robot are really the other two things, but they're not more appealing than mines/RPGs.
José Mourinho
cocknose
Just figured it out. Click on "profile" at the top of the page. Click "edit profile" on the left hand side under the big avatar. Hover over the small image of the soldier beside the name, and you can change it.
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