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Battlefield 3 PC Community Meetup
- Thread starter Anton Sugar
- Start date
Whoever heads up the regional platoons can cross check the Origin list we've been keeping. Most people are on it at this point. I really hope that Origin importing will work better in the retail battlelog than it did in the beta.
There are 85 people on my Origin list right now. Importing all of them manually...again... ;_;
There are 85 people on my Origin list right now. Importing all of them manually...again... ;_;
Anton Sugar
Member
Menelaus said:
That's what I'm thinking too, since we have Battlelog. If we are all just going to join regional platoons anyways, wouldn't it be easier to not maintain a list and just wait for the Platoon to be created? My only concern is QA'ing who is a gaffer and who isn't, but if people just indicate that they've requested access or we have everyone list their GAF name in their profile, it might not be a problem.
Just trying to prevent double work.
Mr. Snrub said:
How I did it in beta was just search their name in GAF if nothing showed up I told them to PM me. The major problem was most people have different names for battlelog. If people just post there battlelog name ONCE in this thread then we can search for it and confirm pretty easily.
scogoth said:
Their battlelog name is the same as their origin name (or is that changing?). That being the case, most of the work is already done, since we have a long list of peoples Origin/Battlelog names already paired to their GAF name.
You'd have to verify anyone coming in late that wasn't on the list of course.
Anton Sugar
Member
Okay guys, we're working on getting the server set up in time for launch. Don't know if DICE will have server tools available on launch, but we're going to have a survey with server-related questions ready soon.
What sort of custom server options are you all interested seeing? Give us some ideas for questions (ex: should FF be enabled? should Hardcore be enabled?)
What sort of custom server options are you all interested seeing? Give us some ideas for questions (ex: should FF be enabled? should Hardcore be enabled?)
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
I'd vote for Hardcore enabled. It was better in BC2 and it's how I like to play my CoD.
Also, good work
Not sure if there's anything I can do to help, but since I was one of the first people to bug you to organise a GAF server I'm happy to help in any way that I can!
Also, good work
Not sure if there's anything I can do to help, but since I was one of the first people to bug you to organise a GAF server I'm happy to help in any way that I can!Menelaus said:
I'd like to know how many people are actually for FF/HC. The earlier poll was pretty heavily in favor of no FF/HC, until people found out about it in the other thread. People that had no intention of ever playing with us were voting, and their vote shouldn't count for anything. Maybe we could have an "if yes, how many days a week" question for people selecting yes?
Other than that, I guess it is pretty hard to come up with questions when we don't know the options. I think ticket count is a pretty good bet, as are things like respawn rate (for vehicles, and people). Those things were in BC2.
No FF or hardcore for me.
The bullet damage is already pretty lethal in BF3 compared to BC2's pea shooters.
Not a fan of FF as not everyone in the game will be communicating with mics or communicating at all...
Sorry about the lack of donations from me. I'll get the donation in sometime between now and release. It's not like we're lacking funds anyway.
The bullet damage is already pretty lethal in BF3 compared to BC2's pea shooters.
Not a fan of FF as not everyone in the game will be communicating with mics or communicating at all...
Sorry about the lack of donations from me. I'll get the donation in sometime between now and release. It's not like we're lacking funds anyway.
NaughtyPrawn
Member
I wouldn't be against having a day or two a week with it hardcore but overall I'd prefer it not to be. I put in a donation just now for the server, looking forward to release
Cuban Legend
Member
as much as I like hardcore, it's hard to say if that's a good idea...Menelaus said:
to build traffic with the community you need consistency that players can easily recognize and remember.
Mr. Snrub said:
Stock regular version
LordCanti said:
That long list is a good start but is not being updated. So if new people just post here "scogoth | scogoth" then the regional mods just search gaf for their origin/battlelog name and if it shows up they get accepted. A lot of people who appied in Beta werent on the OP list.
Honestly, at least for the first few weeks, I'd like to just go with regular BF3. Once everyone is used to the game, has had a chance to become familiar with all the maps, etc. then I think we can start doing events. The best way, of course, would be to go by popular vote. So, name 3 - 4 different events, set dates, and then implement them accordingly.
That's how I'd go about it, anyway.
That's how I'd go about it, anyway.
Anton Sugar
Member
Okay, so if we want to hold off on voting server rules and stick to vanilla for a bit (which I am fine with), what about kick rules? So far we have:
-Spawn-camping/base-raping
-Offensive/hateful language (I'd even extend this to hateful soldier names--no "niggerkiller" or shit like that)
-Hacks, of course
-Griefing?
Anything else we should vote on or consider?
-Spawn-camping/base-raping
-Offensive/hateful language (I'd even extend this to hateful soldier names--no "niggerkiller" or shit like that)
-Hacks, of course
-Griefing?
Anything else we should vote on or consider?
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Maybe hogging vehicles? It seems a bit unfair for people who want to fly but the same people always wait/instantly spawn into them. Everyone who wants a go in them (which probably won't be me cos I can't fly for shit -_-) should get one. Doesn't have to be a very strict rule, as there's nothing wrong with being a dedicated pilot, but maybe we could do something about it. Always seemed to cause arguments in BC2 servers.
Also, do we have any idea about how in-your-face the rules etc will be on our server or is that something we have to wait to find out? I hated in BC2 how those messages came UP IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR SCREEN and then looped in the chat box etc. There's enough of a HUD as it is, server spam should be kept to a minimum (ideally, a splash screen). Again, I have no idea how much control one would have over that, but if we do have control I say we keep it to a minimum, if we even use it at all.
Also, do we have any idea about how in-your-face the rules etc will be on our server or is that something we have to wait to find out? I hated in BC2 how those messages came UP IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR SCREEN and then looped in the chat box etc. There's enough of a HUD as it is, server spam should be kept to a minimum (ideally, a splash screen). Again, I have no idea how much control one would have over that, but if we do have control I say we keep it to a minimum, if we even use it at all.
should not include air on air vehicle violence. give warnings first.Mr. Snrub said:
I would disagree with a language filter. I think strict warnings for anything hateful case warnings are more important thMr. Snrub said:
Instant kick, warnings first for glitches.Mr. Snrub said:
Depends what you consider to be griefingMr. Snrub said:
"Deliberate actions taken to harm ones own team."
I think multiple people camping out for vehicles, should be a general warning. If they continue to do it than if possible through admin tools kill them.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Yeah, I agree with that
Also, accusations of camping/hacking get old reallll fast. You know 99% of the time it's just a bitter person who got killed. I'd like to have that clamped down on, personally.
Also, accusations of camping/hacking get old reallll fast. You know 99% of the time it's just a bitter person who got killed. I'd like to have that clamped down on, personally.
The aerial vehicles will probably get hardcore camped. Now, if you suck ass at flying and can't go 20 feet without crashing into a mountain, you shouldn't fly - but, people should be able to get a fair chance at vehicles.
Now, it also comes down to skill. Once you get with a good team people tend to separate into groups of what they're good at, so I doubt that will be a problem. I know I suck at open combat, so I tend to go covert as much as possible and get people from behind to avoid direct confrontation - while others prefer running up front and running and gunning, or taking the tank and driving over people.
Now, it also comes down to skill. Once you get with a good team people tend to separate into groups of what they're good at, so I doubt that will be a problem. I know I suck at open combat, so I tend to go covert as much as possible and get people from behind to avoid direct confrontation - while others prefer running up front and running and gunning, or taking the tank and driving over people.
Mr. Snrub said:
From what I've played and seen I think it's going to be important to clearly define what is and is not base rape/spawn-camping.
Laser Pointers, Flashlights, and pushing your team around (literally, getting physically pushed around when you're prone SUCKS). When is it just part of the game and when is it griefing? To be clear I mean blinding your own team with flashlights and laser pointers.
Mr. Snrub said:
Honestly, after playing Caspian, I'm not sure how we're going to enforce base raping/spawn camping until there is a script to do it (for jets at least). How do we keep a jet from fighting back, when a ground based AA gun is firing at it from the enemy base? We'd need to ban the use of AA guns, and make sure everyone knew that they couldn't use them. For infantry (and tanks) it shouldn't be a problem to enforce that rule though (bases were auto-protected in the beta, at least from ground attack)
Offensive/Hateful language: Agreed. Maybe a warning for offensive language, but racists can GTFO. (offensive being prolonged and constant profanity or high volume, not a "fuck" every couple of minutes)
Hacks: Yes
Griefing: With FF off, I'm not sure how much someone can do. One warning for team equipment destruction. Maybe instant-ban for purposefully wrecking a chopper full of people or something.
No one should be banned for hogging vehicles (if they actually use them), spamming rockets, or any of the other things you could get banned for in some BC2 servers though. We can force spawning after X time to keep jet camping from happening. I'm also all for a "two people can camp the jets at any time" rule, which would keep more than two people from standing there like idiots.
The rules would need to change whenever FF was on.
Is it griefing if I TK my entire squad and then revive all of them because there is no negative points for TKs?
good times in the beta.
In my experience base camping scripts are just bad because as Canti said, I am punished for defending myself if someone is attacking me from there main base.
good times in the beta.
In my experience base camping scripts are just bad because as Canti said, I am punished for defending myself if someone is attacking me from there main base.
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
squidyj said:
I think it's as clear as day or pretty damn obvious when someone is or attempting to 'grief' using lasers and flashlight attachments. And I'm sure with the changes made since the Beta, someone running around with a flashlight, trying to distract people is would be pretty easy to point out as I'm sure the distance in which the light is effective is shorten -- Either way, he/she would have to be directly in front their given teammates, squad etc. and keeping a constant presence opposite of them. I'm sure someone who is pointing or aiming down the irons with the flashlight or laser attachment isn't trying to watch for unknown enemy presence behind me for an entire match, standing a few feet in front of me. Lasers have a longer range but the same principle applies... can I be honest? I doubt this ever will be a BIG issue. Not saying it'll never happen but meh.
Mr. Snrub said:
I say no to scripts, they don't work as well as admins. Spawn camping should be dealt with kills first then maybe temp bans. If I'm flying a jet and the enemy AA is shooting at me its only reasonable for me to be able to shoot back. If its someone sitting in a tank in their base then kill and warn
Language, just kick anyone for racism/hate speech. Trash talking is fine by me, especially in mumble =]
Hacks, ban outright
Griefing, well I think we all know that we should have griefing wednesdays where all gaf members fill a team and pubs on the other. If its truly intentional and distributive I say warn then 24 hour ban
zulfate said:
You have to add the mumble server specified in the mumble thread on GAF and connect to it. It's all voice chat, no text chat rooms going on or anything. Once you're in you just join the appropriate room. If there's nobody playing anything you're interested in then... well, I guess just wait until there is.
On the issue of mumble, our host is providing us with a free mumble server. We don't have the IP address for that yet, but Mumble can be configured using the existing instructions in the mumble thread (you'd just need to change servers later).
Multiplay (our host) will have our BF3 server up and ready to go at 11pm eastern time on the 24th, if I'm reading their new blog post correctly (it says 17:01 BST, 12:01 EDT, 9:01 PDT). If the game unlocks at midnight (on the 25th), we may have the server up and running, if everything goes according to Multiplay's plans.
Multiplay (our host) will have our BF3 server up and ready to go at 11pm eastern time on the 24th, if I'm reading their new blog post correctly (it says 17:01 BST, 12:01 EDT, 9:01 PDT). If the game unlocks at midnight (on the 25th), we may have the server up and running, if everything goes according to Multiplay's plans.
Cuban Legend
Member
Base-rape rules are easy, here's a set of "UCB" (uncappable base) rules that my old BF2 Clan server instituted with great success.1stStrike said:
seeing as both Karkand and Wake Island will be in BF3 these special condition could very well still be applicable in BF3.
Cuban Legend
Member
just because you like to attack jets while they are taking off doesn't mean it's not base-rape. It's baserape, and if a douche pilot can find a way to farm kills from you every time you tried to take off, you'd rage too.
anyone in the right mind would not like that being done to them.
If the server rules breed smart but sophisticated gameplay, then we will attract smart and sophisticated players, while discouraging douchebags from playing... I think everyone can agree that they don't want to attract baseraping douchebags.
-IF anyone here agrees with the example of rules I quoted in my last post, that's just a part of the UCB rules, i can post the rest of the rules my old server ran with, if you all are interested in looking at what can be done in regards to what to warn/kick/ban for and how many times.
To be clear a decent 2warning/2kick/2ban system works great for keeping things in line yet allowing for a second chance for player redemption from braking the rules in special cases.
anyone in the right mind would not like that being done to them.
If the server rules breed smart but sophisticated gameplay, then we will attract smart and sophisticated players, while discouraging douchebags from playing... I think everyone can agree that they don't want to attract baseraping douchebags.
-IF anyone here agrees with the example of rules I quoted in my last post, that's just a part of the UCB rules, i can post the rest of the rules my old server ran with, if you all are interested in looking at what can be done in regards to what to warn/kick/ban for and how many times.
To be clear a decent 2warning/2kick/2ban system works great for keeping things in line yet allowing for a second chance for player redemption from braking the rules in special cases.
scogoth said:
They are pretty complicated actually O_O
Unless things have changed since the beta, the game itself will keep infantry and ground vehicles out of the enemy uncap. Mostly we just need to think about flying vehicles, and how to keep them from doing any base raping. Tanks won't be able to go into the uncap by default, but some maps may be set up where a base has line of sight to a flag. In those instances, shelling from the base shouldn't be allowed. If people are allowed to destroy enemy jets using their jets, I guess AA-gun usage from the base would be allowed (as well as stinger) to combat that.
Cuban Legend said:
I'd like to read them. My only real issue with the example you posted is that it's not very concise. We're going to have public players as well, and I'm not sure that having them go to our blog and read pages and pages of rules is a viable option. The basics of the rules should probably fit on a splash screen, like the one in BC2 that comes up before you enter a server. They should be easy to understand, at the very least.
Edit: Same rules, shorter winded, in other words.
Cuban Legend
Member
LordCanti said:
That's the reason why they are so complicated BF2 didn't have uncap protection from ground vehicles and infantry.
We do now so therefore we can edit that rule-set section to accommodate the new uncap protection. So BF3 actually makes things with Uncaps easier.
That is also an easy fix, BF2 had scrolling server messages that could be set to scroll by in the ingame chat at fixed intervals, we can have intermittent scrolling messages that have the rules truncated.LordCanti said:
-For that to work we need to note to player that if they have a rule issue, just read the scrolling rules, they should all scroll through in their entirety within a matter of minutes if truncated properly.
Here's the full ruleset for our old BF2 64 player vanilla server: