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Battlefield 4 |OT| Prepare to Leave Beta... Nevermind
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ElzarTheBam
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So what dogtags are people using? I have been using these for a good while.
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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FaltysY.png
Waiting for the Dino one though, that my arch nemesis Over already has.
Here we go!
Oh shizzle.
Here we go!
What's V40, RGO, and FB?
AnotherNils
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They need to buff the frags in addition to reducing the amount of minis you get. Damn thing flies like a shot put.
And color me skeptical that whatever maa fix they make doesn't make it less effective against jets.
And color me skeptical that whatever maa fix they make doesn't make it less effective against jets.
ElzarTheBam
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V40 and RGO are the grenades.
I'm not sure what the FB is? Maybe the grenade launcher attachments, not sure.
Mobility Kills on choppers.
Dead.
AnotherNils
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Took me a bit, but flash bang.
They need to. Too much nade spam when people can carry three (or four with the field upgrade perks).
Two plus a reduced blast radius or further reduced damage (say from 80 to 60) would balance them better.
Unknown One
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Looks like I won't be sitting back and pick at my nose shooting at infantry with the MAA anymore hahaha
It was fun while it lasted.
Grenades definitely needs a rebalance. Minis and impact grenades are broken.
It was fun while it lasted.
Grenades definitely needs a rebalance. Minis and impact grenades are broken.
ElzarTheBam
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Ahhhhh.
You know what, I've never used them and I'm very sure, they've never been used against me.
Me neither, i think i have had flares/smoke thrown at me though.
The V10's definitely need double nerfing in my opinion. Either damage or radius reduction and carry count reducing to two as standard.
ElzarTheBam
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Yeah, flares are fairly common. Smoke, I've seen a couple of times.
AnotherNils
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What's so busted about the rgo? I guess the mini overshadows everything but I can't say I have any complaints about the impact grenade.
Unknown One
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No, don't buff it. There is already enough grenades being thrown around. They should be trying to cut down spam. Nerfs all around for grenades please.
Yeah, agreed.
Your mistaken, those are the v40sthey are getting a hit.
Duh. I can't even blame as a typo can I?
The others, besides the MP-443 are pretty crap. The Five-seveN notably.
I've probably died more from impact grenades than anything else and barely anyone uses them. They're like a mini nuke.
With that said it's all about the mini grenades for me. Oh, you want to hide around a corner to heal? Nah, bank shot for you! Can't really do that with the impact grenades.
93 and c45 are good weapons, symthic/reality.
Netcode kills the 45 a bit but the 93 laughs at netcode.
AnotherNils
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Wouldn't the frag be better for that job though? More damage.
Unknown One
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Minis have a bigger splash radius. Less time for them to run away.
AnotherNils
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But they can't ohk
You have three of them and they travel a lot further. That makes up for the ~80 max damage. You can make longer bank shots and everything with them. My grenade kill efficiency went through the roof going from standard grenades to minis.
It doesn't go as far, and I think that extends to when you bounce it off of stuff as well. You can more safely and accurately place a mini around a corner.
They don't need to when we have 3 or 4, so we don't have to be nearly as accurate to get kills.
AnotherNils
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I thought my shot put comparison was spot on.
That and a smaller visual effect.
Cool, yeah ill still use these for sure.
They fill a nice niche with the 3 count and their ability to clean up/get campers out of holes is fine with me.
The way I read it they're not changing anything except the way the explosion looks and sounds.
They do tend to overnerf sometimes so who knows. They're a big part of my offensive attack but I could deal with them not being good at killing people to be honest. A lot of the time the grenade indicator alone is enough to get people out of their hiding spots which nets me an easy kill. The nerf shouldn't (I hope) change that at least.
That'd be funny. I took the "sound and effect" part to mean some kind of radius/damage nerf but he may literally just mean they're changing the visual effect.
That'd be funny. I took the "sound and effect" part to mean some kind of radius/damage nerf but he may literally just mean they're changing the visual effect.
AnotherNils
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Yeah, wtf. 3 is a lot ( without the perk bonus). He'll I only get 1 incendiary which seems like a joke. 3 should be for non lethals like smoke, flash bangs, and flares.
http://bf4db.com/weapons
I just found out about this website. It appears to have global stats for just about everything. Maybe it's already known here but it's interesting.
Here are the KPM stats for the four main lethal grenades. Zero surprises here except for maybe the M34. I didn't know people actually got kills with those lol.
1) V40 MINI: 4.9
2) RGO IMPACT: 4.8
3) M67 FRAG: 4.3
4) M34 INCENDIARY 3.9
I just found out about this website. It appears to have global stats for just about everything. Maybe it's already known here but it's interesting.
Here are the KPM stats for the four main lethal grenades. Zero surprises here except for maybe the M34. I didn't know people actually got kills with those lol.
1) V40 MINI: 4.9
2) RGO IMPACT: 4.8
3) M67 FRAG: 4.3
4) M34 INCENDIARY 3.9
The defib has more kills than most of the assault filler underbarrel ammo types lol.
AnotherNils
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Can't post on my phone, but symthic has a forum thread where a guy compiled global kills per weapon per platform. It doesn't seem extremely accurate but even if its within ballpark, I believe the grenade numbers translate to v40 @ almost 80% of kills, followed by the impact, and the frag coming in at around 3% of kills. Laughable.
I'm not surprised, it's pretty fun to use lol
From the link I posted.
55.5% for V40
26.6% for RGO
15.5% for M67
2.3% for M34
0% for M84 (there are still some kills though)
The extra .1% was lost with rounding I guess or I messed up somewhere. I'm not entirely sure where they get their stats but it seems like it probably only uses PC stats since I can only find PC soldiers using their search.
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