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Battlefield Bad Company 2 Vietnam |OT|

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
The Faceless Master said:
how can you not like the kill speed? weren't you the one who wanted the 25% damage boost back?

Playing with a squad that knows whats up is fine.

But when playing with randoms, the killspeed isn't fun as all. That, and I can shoot a dude five times with all the shots supposed to hit, only to get hit three times and die. AKA: Lag kills the fun of the buff.

That said, once you adjust it's fine. It's just the stupid lag fucking with it to where 1 vs 1 becomes a "who does the server say hit who" problem.

And yeah, I wanted the 25% buff back in BC2. But Vietnam plays differently from BC2 to where I can't tell you if I want the 25% buff there or not.

Still not going to look forward to gold staring sniper rifles, but i'll deal.

None of them are bolt action, and they have no recoil (or it's a placebo effect on me). Spam the sumbitches. I'm doing the other two before the SVD as I like the SVD. But honestly, after I gold star 1 all of them, I'm forgetting recon exists in the expansion as I like the AK-47 a lot more. :lol

Surprisingly, the M14 DOESN'T FUCKING SUCK NUTS in the Vietnam expansion. Probably because the recoil on it doesn't kick it to where it acts like a "proper" assault rifle (every other gun than it in BC2, including the G3).
 

Atomski

Member
I havent played bfbc2 in a while. I was playing it on 360 but last night I grabbed the pc version and vietnam today. Holllyyy shiiitt this game is so good. I can't believe people play cod over this.
 
1stStrike said:
God damn you. I would avoid the entire enemy team, and then get shot in the back by you.

Yeah, I was like "ho ho striketh must be regretting leaving this game for so long":lol

TheSeks said:
Still not liking the kill speed on these maps.

And no trophy unlocks for winning the four maps yet. WTF, DICE. :|

This?
Can I Go Home Now?
Achieve a team victory on all Vietnam levels

I think we also need to play all the maps on conquest.
 

abuC

Member
I don't usually snipe, but I picked up someones M40 and then switched to recon to try it out some more, and that thing is instant death. You hit someone in the upper body and it's game over for them, there doesn't seem to be much bullet drop either.
 

1stStrike

Banned
Dreamgazer said:
Yeah, I was like "ho ho striketh must be regretting leaving this game for so long":lol



This?
Can I Go Home Now?
Achieve a team victory on all Vietnam levels

I think we also need to play all the maps on conquest.

I vote we do conquest too - I'd like to give em a try. I won't be able to tomorrow, though, cause of work.

And yeah, I'm rusty as hell. I did get some pretty good kills though once I got a bit of my groove back - I was ass raping everyone with the RPG-7 and Uzi lol. I'd come around the corner, RPG a couple dudes, switch to my uzi and finish them off. My k/d ratio was garbage for the most part (coming in 1:1 and just over a couple times, but mostly 0.5:1 :lol ) but it was fun.

Just give me a week or two and I'll be death incarnate again :D
 
TheSeks said:
None of them are bolt action, and they have no recoil (or it's a placebo effect on me). Spam the sumbitches. I'm doing the other two before the SVD as I like the SVD. But honestly, after I gold star 1 all of them, I'm forgetting recon exists in the expansion as I like the AK-47 a lot more. :lol

Surprisingly, the M14 DOESN'T FUCKING SUCK NUTS in the Vietnam expansion. Probably because the recoil on it doesn't kick it to where it acts like a "proper" assault rifle (every other gun than it in BC2, including the G3).

You never had any problem with sniping in the Vanilla, but I honestly can't snipe for shit:lol .
My recon score would never be as high as it is now if it weren't for M95 quick scoping, VSS and lots of motions sensor (oh how i miss all of you.)

But anyway, you're right. At least they're much better to deal with than the original snipers.

That being said, yeah. I honestly don't see any point of using the recon class now...
 
anyone else do the Achievement/Trophy for shooting the propaganda speaker? that was easy!

abuC said:
I don't usually snipe, but I picked up someones M40 and then switched to recon to try it out some more, and that thing is instant death. You hit someone in the upper body and it's game over for them, there doesn't seem to be much bullet drop either.
yean, i dunno if it's that there's less bullet drop or the maps just ... look bigger than they are... but i was on the hill next to B on Hill 137 and sniping people in the (i think) USA spaw (behind C) and i was shooting over their heads at first.



TheSeks said:
None of them are bolt action, and they have no recoil (or it's a placebo effect on me). Spam the sumbitches. I'm doing the other two before the SVD as I like the SVD. But honestly, after I gold star 1 all of them, I'm forgetting recon exists in the expansion as I like the AK-47 a lot more. :lol

Surprisingly, the M14 DOESN'T FUCKING SUCK NUTS in the Vietnam expansion. Probably because the recoil on it doesn't kick it to where it acts like a "proper" assault rifle (every other gun than it in BC2, including the G3).
the M40 is bolt-action.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Dreamgazer said:
This?
Can I Go Home Now?
Achieve a team victory on all Vietnam levels

I think we also need to play all the maps on conquest.

Yeah, that. After a full rotation again, it unlocked.

I'm going to get "Can you kindly STFU?" tomorrow, which means having to do the rice paddy conquest map and driving all over the place for it. Ugh.

The others are just kills in vehicles (got one jeep that's probably Conquest only and something else... boat, I think?), best squad on the locked map when it unlocks, and all gold star 1(and silver stars) for the primary guns left to get for 100% trophies in Vietnam. :D

the M40 is bolt-action.

The default/first one on the list? Is it really? Because I was able to spam ALL the sniper rifles today with 3 quick succession shots to kill enemies easy.

Dream said:
>>Sniper<<

If you're saying my skill is good, it really isn't. I play "sniper dick"/camping in base/far away from the action and spotting/taking out priorities while you go balls out into the action as assault-sniper. Big difference, and honestly I'm not that good of a sniper. I'm horrible at catching moving targets.
 

1stStrike

Banned
Dreamgazer said:
You never had any problem with sniping in the Vanilla, but I honestly can't snipe for shit:lol .
My recon score would never be as high as it is now if it weren't for M95 quick scoping, VSS and lots of motions sensor (oh how i miss all of you.)

But anyway, you're right. At least they're much better to deal with than the original snipers.

That being said, yeah. I honestly don't see any point of using the recon class now...

Pretty much on any map/section of a map that has a hill is sniper heaven. I was sniping with the M40 earlier and was raping with it. Just don't try to use it on flat, open areas, because that's stupid.
 
TheSeks said:
Yeah, that. After a full rotation again, it unlocked.

I'm going to get "Can you kindly STFU?" tomorrow, which means having to do the rice paddy conquest map and driving all over the place for it. Ugh.

The others are just kills in vehicles (got one jeep that's probably Conquest only and something else... boat, I think?), best squad on the locked map when it unlocks, and all gold star 1(and silver stars) for the primary guns left to get for 100% trophies in Vietnam. :D
Oh crap, don't tell me I have to play the entire rotation with the same team.
That would explain why it didn't unlock for me tonight.....since I was coming in and out.

"Can you kindly STFU" can be easily gotten on the 2nd set of the temple base.
Although it's a problem since you can't hear it.
It's right between A and B on one of the poles.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Dreamgazer said:
Oh crap, don't tell me I have to play the entire rotation with the same team.
That would explain why it didn't unlock for me tonight.....since I was coming in and out.

"Can you kindly STFU" can be easily gotten on the 2nd set of the temple base.
Although it's a problem since you can't hear it.
It's right between A and B on one of the poles.

You probably do. But that shouldn't be a problem since you play with GAF. ;)

Yeah, I saw the Rooster Teeth production video that was uploaded today. Is it just one speaker? Because the video shows three before the 360 achievement pop. So I'm not sure.
 
TheSeks said:
You probably do. But that shouldn't be a problem since you play with GAF. ;)

Yeah, I saw the Rooster Teeth production video that was uploaded today. Is it just one speaker? Because the video shows three before the 360 achievement pop. So I'm not sure.

yeah but to go through the full rotation that would mean 8 games.
Not sure if that's actually feasible for me during this holiday season.
Not to mention, GAF steamrolling = "great only 2 guys left on the other team, I'm not staying, let's go Dream!":lol

I just shot one.
I wasn't even sure what I had to do to unlock the trophy.
So then I saw the speaker and figured..."maybe I can destroy it" - did so and trophy popped right after.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Dreamgazer said:
yeah but to go through the full rotation that would mean 8 games.
Not sure if that's actually feasible for me during this holiday season.
Not to mention, GAF steamrolling = "great only 2 guys left on the other team, I'm not staying, let's go Dream!":lol

I just shot one.
I wasn't even sure what I had to do to unlock the trophy.
So then I saw the speaker and figured..."maybe I can destroy it" - did so and trophy popped right after.


Oh the team before Toda got on stayed for a while.

And I think it only has to be one game each. I can't tell you if it's a full rotation or not. But winning four rounds with GAF in a rotation for about two hours did it.

Ah, well if it's only one you can get one as the rice field with the helicopter in the attackers spawn. Sweet. :D
 
Wow, I really don't know what you guys are talking about with the boosted damage. Seems exact same to me or I've been playing Hardcore for too long. I tried a few regular matches and it's straight killing me that people are dropping like I'm used to. I'm so used to firing in short bursts to save ammo and not have to reload and that play style gets you killed real fast outside of hardcore.
 
there are speakers in several (all?) maps.

i've seen 1 in Vantage Point and 2 in Cao Son Temple.



OldJadedGamer said:
Wow, I really don't know what you guys are talking about with the boosted damage. Seems exact same to me or I've been playing Hardcore for too long. I tried a few regular matches and it's straight killing me that people are dropping like I'm used to. I'm so used to firing in short bursts to save ammo and not have to reload and that play style gets you killed real fast outside of hardcore.
you've been playing campcore too long.

damage on the vietnam guns is like 1-2 bullets less than normal BC2.



Dreamgazer said:
yeah but to go through the full rotation that would mean 8 games.
Not sure if that's actually feasible for me during this holiday season.
Not to mention, GAF steamrolling = "great only 2 guys left on the other team, I'm not staying, let's go Dream!":lol
that thing is bugged. i won on all 4 maps in rush, then i played Conquest and it popped up after we won.


TheSeks said:
The default/first one on the list? Is it really? Because I was able to spam ALL the sniper rifles today with 3 quick succession shots to kill enemies easy.
the 3rd one.
 
Overall, I'm very happy with all the maps, guns, and newness of the pack. $15 well spent IMO.

TheSeks said:
And no trophy unlocks for winning the four maps yet. WTF, DICE. :|

I unlocked the achievement tonight with 3 maps winning Conquest and one map winning on Rush.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
Sir Fragula said:
Played this yesterday with friends - really like the new maps. Shame they don't integrate with the existing playlists.
That would destroy the game to those who dont have Vietnam.

Sorry guys i couldnt play last night had to do some family stuff.
Ill be on today.
 

meppi

Member
Still waiting for the Euro store to update. Will get it the second it does.

Just got into BFBC2 myself last week after being utterly disappointed with the KZ3 MP as well as frustrated as to how shitty the KZ2 community has become over the past 6 months.

So this will probably be a rather dumb question, but is there any difference to a weapon without any stars, or one that has bronze, silver or a gold star?

Can't believe it took me so long to pick this game up since I'm already having just as much fun with it as I've had on some of the best games in my limited although dedicated FPS career. (GE, PD, HL1, KZ2). :)
And I still haven't seen all the maps yet.

Any word on when BFBC 3 is due out?
I'm only wondering since I can see myself playing this game for a year or two without any problems, unless the community moves on to the sequel. At which point I'll do the same.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
meppi said:
Still waiting for the Euro store to update. Will get it the second it does.

Just got into BFBC2 myself last week after being utterly disappointed with the KZ3 MP as well as frustrated as to how shitty the KZ2 community has become over the past 6 months.

So this will probably be a rather dumb question, but is there any difference to a weapon without any stars, or one that has bronze, silver or a gold star?

Can't believe it took me so long to pick this game up since I'm already having just as much fun with it as I've had on some of the best games in my limited although dedicated FPS career. (GE, PD, HL1, KZ2). :)
And I still haven't seen all the maps yet.

Any word on when BFBC 3 is due out?I'm only wondering since I can see myself playing this game for a year or two without any problems, unless the community moves on to the sequel. At which point I'll do the same.
Next year is Battlefield 3 year.

BFBC2 took me by surprise. I friggin' love it. ( My most played game this gen :0 )
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
The Faceless Master said:
the 3rd one.

Weird... is it really bolt action? I was able to spam that son of a bitch pretty hard in some games.
 

Jinaar

Member
All I can say is this is like playing Battlefield 1943 and that is a good thing.

Last night I watched a motorized rickshaw Dukes of Hazarded itself off a wrecked corpse of an USA Army jeep and kept on going alone towards a tank devastating us in the distance. F'ing GI JOE. This game is like none other online at the moment for me personally.
 

Coldsnap

Member
I giggled when a dude in a chinaman hat pulls up next to me in a scooter and toots his horn for me to get in :lol

I want to play with GAF people on Xbox 360 tonight. Invite me any time you see me on, I'm on the gamertag friendslist GT is ColdsnapBryan
 

meppi

Member
Fersis said:
Next year is Battlefield 3 year.

BFBC2 took me by surprise. I friggin' love it. ( My most played game this gen :0 )

Thanks. Much sooner than I thought.

Yeah me too. I didn't expect it to be anywhere near this level of greatness.
The way weapons feel and act is outstanding and is only emphasized by the physics of the bullets and such. it just feels incredibly satisfying.

One thing that's so important for me is finding a weapon that feels like it was made for me.
In KZ2 it was the STA14. Didn't even enjoy playing with anything else.

The only game that I can think of in which I loved every single weapon in MP was Half-Life 1. Sure, I preferred certain weapons over others, but they all had a perfectly good reason to be in the game.

So it surprised me how good the majority of weapons feel in BFBC2.
I played BF1943 for a bit, but didn't like the "old weapon feel" for a lack of a better term. Not sure how this'll be in Vietnam to be honest. But that's just a personal thing I guess.

As of right now, I'm loving the GOL in BFBC2.
Not that I'm playing as a sniping bastard or anything. ;)
I actually hate the campers, so I run around the place sticking C4 on tanks whenever I even remotely have the opportunity to do so.
While actively counter sniping as well as calling in air support to blast the shit out of campers that hide a bit too well. :lol

Really love the objectives in the game.
Only had 2 games so far where the team didn't do much to secure them, but overall people play the game as it's supposed to be played and not just to pad their K/D ration.
That's something that soured me on KZ2.
 

Walshicus

Member
The Faceless Master said:
so people can quit when a non-vietnam map pops up in rotation?
Just add a "Latest Maps" toggle or something.

To be fair, the game could do with a better method of showing what the next map is and allowing people to opt out of it so auto-balancing can even the teams out for the remaining players.
 
I can't say enough good things about my session with Vietnam on PS3 today. I mean, we lost every game while attacking but it felt like we went down fighting together. Big moment on our team was on Hill 137 when my squad and another grouped up in the trenches and just overwhelmed the other team. It was beautiful. Medics were ditching out medpacks and reviving, assault guys were pitching out ammo and leading the way with flamethrowers, and engineers were shooting RPGs down the trenches to clear up stragglers. We managed to snatch B but fell 1 ticket short of capturing A. But the teamwork was soooooo good. If only we came together earlier. :lol




Recons were uh.................. :-|
 

todahawk

Member
Holeeee-shit the flamethrower is awesome. I stayed on for a couple more matches after everyone left (trizzy joined me for some fun) and on rush defense I was using lightweight and sneaking up on groups of attackers and torching em. I was laughing it up like a fool.
 

Ocho

Member
Bought this game this morning before leaving to work. 8 painfully slow hours before I visit the lush jungles of Vietnam. :(
 

richiek

steals Justin Bieber DVDs
I generally like the period music used in the game, but I literally rolled my eyes at the use of "Ride of the Valkryies", I mean geez, how much more cliched can you get?
 
richiek said:
I generally like the period music used in the game, but I literally rolled my eyes at the use of "Ride of the Valkryies", I mean geez, how much more cliched can you get?

As cliche as the same 60's-70's music that appears in every Vietnam movies and game?
 

dkeane

Member
BattleMonkey said:
As cliche as the same 60's-70's music that appears in every Vietnam movies and game?
I heard that as a tank cruised by me while hiding in a bush last night - made me laugh out loud
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Crakatak187 said:
m14 is the new An94. Hop on the bandwagon all.

First gun I picked... saw a guy at mid range running through some water... didn't even pull up the iron sights, just shot from the hip... *pop pop pop* no recoil... dropped.

I was like hooooly shit. :lol

Then I started using the AK. Or more like AKA: God's Cock. I'll have the gold star next round I play in Vietnam. I can't believe what I was doing with that thing last night.

And don't even get me started on the M40. Was my favorite sniper rifle in Socom, and it's disgusting in BC:V. Anything over the waste is >90% of the time is OHK. I aced with it on Vantage Point. Just complete spawn destruction. Next time we played that map I didn't use it because I felt kinda dickish for doing that to them before -- some of those guys were good sports and kept playing against gaf even thought we destroyed them round after round.
 

Shai-Tan

Banned
greenjerk said:
Holeeee-shit the flamethrower is awesome. I stayed on for a couple more matches after everyone left (trizzy joined me for some fun) and on rush defense I was using lightweight and sneaking up on groups of attackers and torching em. I was laughing it up like a fool.

I think it's a bit underpowered on PC. I have fun burning people but most of the time I get shot in the face before I get a chance to do anything. I don't think the maps support it like it does in TF2 because there aren't a lot of bottleneck where you can hide and wait for people to pass.
 

Ikuu

Had his dog run over by Blizzard's CEO
Only DICE could make a game where the medic is the most effective infantry class.
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Shai-Tan said:
I think it's a bit underpowered on PC. I have fun burning people but most of the time I get shot in the face before I get a chance to do anything. I don't think the maps support it like it does in TF2 because there aren't a lot of bottleneck where you can hide and wait for people to pass.

I didn't use the FT last night... going to try it out today... but I killed whoever tried to flame me every time. The only exception was one when I was battling a couple guys and killed them, but FT guy came in and did clean up while I was trying to reload.

I don't think it's a 1v1 weapon at all. Ambush, clean up, and crate defense/attack are going to be my strategy when I mess around with it today.

Ikuu said:
Only DICE could make a game where the medic is the most effective infantry class.

You really think so? In BCV I think assault is by far the most effective/deadly. The AK and M14 are just not right. :lol
 

iam220

Member
The M1 in this game seems to be quite a bit better than bc2, also m16 is awesome. Feels very 'light' and deadly accurate. The m60 I can't quite get a handle on, maybe it's just the iron sights ...
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
iam220 said:
The M1 in this game seems to be quite a bit better than bc2, also m16 is awesome. Feels very 'light' and deadly accurate. The m60 I can't quite get a handle on, maybe it's just the iron sights ...

People were kicking my ass a few times with the M60 but I wasn't as effective with it... you're right, pretty weird iron sights. It'll take some time to adjust to those.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
ochobit said:
Bought this game this morning before leaving to work. 8 painfully slow hours before I visit the lush jungles of Vietnam. :(
Rockscar is buying Vietnam later today so maybe we can make a 'Spanish/Latin American' Squad :lol
 
recklessmind said:
People were kicking my ass a few times with the M60 but I wasn't as effective with it... you're right, pretty weird iron sights. It'll take some time to adjust to those.

Pff M60.
I knew all the kids were going to use it cause it is the best medic gun in the vanilla game.
However, without the scopes the M60's high accuracy is just kind of moot.

The XM22 (the vanilla equivalent of M249) with its higher RPM is my choice of a medic gun for close quarter combat.:D
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Ikuu said:
Only DICE could make a game where the medic is the most effective infantry class.
The assault class is probably the best pure infantry class. The medic class is the obly one that didn't see any substantial nerf in terms of abilities from regular BC2 though. Recons lost motion sensors + spotting scope, assault lost smoke and C4/TNT, engineer lost tracer and guided rockets.
 

iam220

Member
Dreamgazer said:
Pff M60.
I knew all the kids were going to use it cause it is the best medic gun in the vanilla game.
However, without the scopes the M60's high accuracy is just kind of moot.

The XM22 (the vanilla equivalent of M249) with its higher RPM is my choice of a medic gun for close quarter combat.:D

XM22 is awesome as well, and it doesn't have the distracting muzzle flash of the m249 in bc2. Probably the best gun for damaging helis given its high ammo count.

The PKM is also a beast, and probably my go-to medic gun at this point but further exposure to the XM22 can change all that.
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Btw guys... that Recon TNT is far easier to throw than C4. You can toss it quite a distance very consistently. In vanilla C4 has a habit of dropping at your feet even when you jumpshot it, but it hasn't happened to me at all in BCV... try it out. It's like carrying extra grenades.

And again... the M40 is like death incarnate.
 

iam220

Member
Ikuu said:
Only DICE could make a game where the medic is the most effective infantry class.

Medics guns are not the most effective in the game. I'd say the they come close second to assault (m16 especially), but the medics ability to drop a med pack for the purpose of self healing gives it the edge as an infantry class for certain styles of play (mine included).
 
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