NecrosaroIII
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Certainly an interesting decision. Just a reminder that your employer doesn't care about you. They care about the money they make.
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Beauty product company YesMadam fires employees who indicated they were facing high stress in company survey
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Certainly an interesting decision. Just a reminder that your employer doesn't care about you. They care about the money they make.
Jaybe
Member
Yep. They are not anonymous, even if it says it is they can still use different filters to pinpoint you.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
I always fill my company surveys in that I’m a senior manager and have been for over ten years and always give negative scores.
They’ve never found me but I hope it always fucks up their stats.
They’ve never found me but I hope it always fucks up their stats.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Mikado
Member
That is some impressive archvillain-level snark right there. Not sure if that will come back to bite them though? Depending on the state could that open them to some lawsuits - esp. if those let go were still accomplishing their tasks satisfactorily regardless?
T4keD0wN
Member
You sure they dont know? In my experience the surveys usually have a unique personal signature/link, but if its just a generic shortlink and youre sure everyone gets the same one then it should be fine.
Vetusomaru
Neo Member
Customers don't care either since they keep consuming products from said companies. Or they praise these companies the moment they tweet about Trans Rights.
Champomade
Member
It's an Indian company...
Pejo
Gold Member
And there's the other shoe dropping. I don't think this would go well in the US, but my general feeling is that India probably doesn't have a lot of worker protections in place. Hopefully/maybe social media can have some sort of effect here, but seems unlikely considering the brand doesn't seem to be big enough for it to catch on.
i. e. if 200,000 people that already weren't using their services/products proclaim that they won't use their services/products, there's a net zero effect.
Mikado
Member
Ah.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
When I fill out 'anonymous' work surveys, TOR or a remote VPN endpoint is an absolute minimum.
Might explain why my project got canceled 6 weeks after I took a shit on my line manager in a survey.
I have no clue how the US legislature works, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were about to get a lot worse over the next couple of years.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
They've never come knocking in the ten years that I've been doing it so...
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Brigandier
Member
Workers rights are non existent in some countries... fucking disgraceful.
Cyberpunkd
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Cyberpunkd
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
This story (if it's real) is for an Indian company.
You'd get sued out of business in the US doing this. It's just too on the nose.
Whole thing screams fake to me tho lol But that's just a gut feeling, no research lol
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Damn. I didn't even think of it being in any other country besides the US. That's how bad I assume US workers rights are.
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kittoo
Cretinously credulous
The company now says it was all part of an "awareness campaign on worker stress". LOL these clowns-
https://news.abplive.com/business/y...er-100-employees-for-workplace-stress-1736761
https://news.abplive.com/business/y...er-100-employees-for-workplace-stress-1736761
T4keD0wN
Member
Lambogenie
Member
Talk about no tact.
You're supposed to fire them slowly or force them out. Not all at once.
You're supposed to fire them slowly or force them out. Not all at once.
Kraz
Member
JimmyRustler
Member
I wonder how those companies are able to find replacements for all these people they fire? I don’t get it. Who wants to work there?
BlackTron
Member
Uh, so they're claiming the firings never actually happened?
The only reason I would even 1% wonder if that is true is because the language in the firing e-mail sounds like a joke, but sadly, I believe someone could be insane enough to write it as a legitimate message too lol.
The confirmation would have been speaking out by fired employees but yeah idk it's all the way over in India.
BlackTron
Member
“To ensure that no one remains stressed at work" should just be changed to “To ensure that no one admits they are stressed at work"
I mean if you fire everyone for being stressed, all their replacements and the remaining employees will be more stressed over what could happen and walk on eggshells, resulting in a higher-stress environment where simply less people admit it. So they clearly don't give a shit about reducing stress in the workplace lol.
I mean if you fire everyone for being stressed, all their replacements and the remaining employees will be more stressed over what could happen and walk on eggshells, resulting in a higher-stress environment where simply less people admit it. So they clearly don't give a shit about reducing stress in the workplace lol.
Aesius
Member
Learned this the hard way in my first job out of college.
We did peer reviews that were supposed to be anonymous. I reviewed my direct manager and gave her honest feedback, which included some 3/5 scores on stuff she legitimately was dropping the ball on. Later learned that there were meetings to discuss said peer reviews with our director. And peer reviews directly influenced annual raises.
So me giving a few 3/5 scores decreased my manager's annual raise percentage, and somehow she (or our director) sussed out who gave her the low reviews, because it was otherwise an unwritten policy that everyone gave each other 5/5 scores.
From that point on she was hyper critical of everything I did and micromanaged me to an insane degree.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Paltheos
Member
Just tossing out there this is a 'not all companies' thing. My current employer has treated me remarkably well, although it might help that we're a professional organization. For contrast, I worked at my (non-professional) last job for almost a decade, was furloughed when covid hit, and never found out I was formally terminated until I received a letter from my 401k plan opening with 'now that you're no longer employed at [x]'. Putting aside all the petty politics and gaslighting.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
More of this.
I say that partially facetiously, but I wish companies that, for example, have employees who say they "feel unsafe" in their workplace because some co-worker wore a Harry Potter shirt or something, I wish those companies just got rid of those employees and tell them "You can find your safe space at home." Point being: companies should not cater to ultra particular or nutty employees who are antithetical to productivity. Not saying that is the case in this particular company here, I have no idea.
I say that partially facetiously, but I wish companies that, for example, have employees who say they "feel unsafe" in their workplace because some co-worker wore a Harry Potter shirt or something, I wish those companies just got rid of those employees and tell them "You can find your safe space at home." Point being: companies should not cater to ultra particular or nutty employees who are antithetical to productivity. Not saying that is the case in this particular company here, I have no idea.
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ReBurn
Gold Member
In the US they wouldn't tell you why they were really firing you. It would be a generic "downsizing" or a "reorganization" regardless of the real reason. Can't sue for improper termination if they don't tell you why you're really being terminated.
ReBurn
Gold Member
The company I'm working with now takes this approach. If it's a legitimate, documented health or safety issue they make accommodations. If it's hurt feelings or self-diagnosed PTSD because someone disagrees with them then they're coached out the door. The company tried to accommodate some of it during the "let's figure out how to make zoomers want to work here" time after Covid when it was tough to hire people because everyone was over staffing, but they dropped it pretty quickly when those folks couldn't meet a deadline. Now sensitive folks are weeded out during the interview process via their answers to a personality questionnaire.
FeralEcho
Member
Until some stressed person relieves that pent up stress by shooting the ceo....