weremichael
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If you can, hit the mash tun with CO2 before you let it sour mash. It will greatly improve your results due to inhibiting the growth of aerobic microbes.
You pitching a pure lacto strain or trying your luck with grain?
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If you can, hit the mash tun with CO2 before you let it sour mash. It will greatly improve your results due to inhibiting the growth of aerobic microbes.
You pitching a pure lacto strain or trying your luck with grain?
sharkmuncher
Member
codswallop said:
I turned out a 40pt BJCP Berliner using the method on this site last summer. Soured for ~72 hrs, boiled 15 min with ~10IBUs worth of hops and fermented with dry English yeast. Very tart and clean lacto sourness, which surprised me from a full sour mash. You could have a decent Berliner kegged and carbed in ~2 weeks. Keeping the sour mash covered in CO2 and at temp is the most important.
Anyone else had the pleasure of having canned beer in
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/topless-beer-can-360-lid_n_3015843.html
these cans? Better than a bottle, no extra glassware required. Local brewery started doing them, I'm in love.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/04/topless-beer-can-360-lid_n_3015843.html
these cans? Better than a bottle, no extra glassware required. Local brewery started doing them, I'm in love.
Nice. More breweries should try this.
codswallop
Member
Wow, thanks for the advice guys. I happened to meet one of Australia's best sour brewers the other day (who, according to Deschutes or Stillwater's brewer had brewed the best Berliner he'd ever had), getting tons of great advice right now! I'll make sure I read more about what you've suggested.
I think I'm going to try my luck with a no boil (or perhaps partial). Unfortunately I don't have any CO2 so I'll let the beer gods decide how it'll turn out. I've had a wild, spontaneous fermentation work from my garden before so we'll see!
I'll be sure to post in the homebrew thread when I try it. I'm using a cooler tun so it'll be an interesting experiment for sure.
MacGurcules
Member
I like this method of sour mashing. It splits the difference between pitching a commercial culture and just hucking a fistful of grain into your tun.
If you can't flush with CO2, a lot of people have good luck with doing a thick mash and then pressing plastic wrap down on top of it.
If you can't flush with CO2, a lot of people have good luck with doing a thick mash and then pressing plastic wrap down on top of it.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Deer beer GAF, my birthday is coming up and I'm getting a butterfly knife bottle opener as a congratulations for getting my license to serve alcohol, and I realized that I don't think I've tried more than three different beers in my life, and I certainly didn't enjoy them all that much.
What I want to know is what beers that I can easily get at, like, a Safeway in a bottle are good? If I'm actually going to be a bartender I should probably try some different beers, but I have no clue where to start.
I've tasted Coors Light, Budweiser and Dos Equis. Thanks.
What I want to know is what beers that I can easily get at, like, a Safeway in a bottle are good? If I'm actually going to be a bartender I should probably try some different beers, but I have no clue where to start.
I've tasted Coors Light, Budweiser and Dos Equis. Thanks.
We need to know your region, to assess the good beers distributed in your area. So, I'd say, start local. Drink from breweries around your town.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
Oregon. Is beer really that regional? I'm talking, like, the mainstream stuff sold in retailers. I can move onto local breweries when I'm comfortable with bottles from stores.
distantmantra
Member
Depends. Where are you? What are you lookin for?
You should probably familiarize yourself with IPAs, PNW is hop crazy. The ones at Safeway probably won't cut it, though.
get pale ales. i don't know what is sold in oregon but i would bet you can find some great stuff there. but yeah, look for pale ales, if you find one you can google it and there are websites that give you a score to see if it is good or not
Some craft brewers DO have wider distribution, such as New Belgium, Dogfish, Stone, Goose Island, and more that I may not have expected to have wider distribution. Fat Tire was a solid beer I was suggested once before trying many others, so you can try that out.
bumbillbee
Member
Whoa had no idea that existed. Can't find much about it either, so it's like normal Petrus aged pale but dry-hopped? Cool bottle though.
Nothing really caught my eye at the store today so I just grabbed some Stone IPA's. I hadn't had it in a while and I remember why now. It's a below average IPA imo (not a troll post). I think there are much better ones out there. Their Ruination is tasty for a heavier IPA, which I'm starting to lean away more and more. Treats me right for grabbing something at Safeway instead of going to a beer store where I could be enjoying Bale Breaker or a tasty Fremont ale.
$14 for La Folie?? I just found it in Canada for $11.50. And imo it's delicious. Drinking it as we speak. Not as good as Terroir, but very good.
Can't tell you guys how wide my eyes got when I saw it. Did not think I'd find it up here.
I should look into other IPAs perhaps, but I do know that I wasn't particularly impressed with the base Stone IPA (though I had minimal beer experience then) and it was the Cali-Belgique IPA of theirs I actually liked more.
Speaking of Stone, I got to have the Espresso Russian Imperial Stout! Though it's been aged a year, so I wonder if the coffee flavor mellowed out or just blends in that easily.
EDIT: Oh, I also did like their Go-to IPA more.
I wasn't amazed by Ruination, but I'm hoping RuinTen shows up soon since I liked it quite a bit last year. Haven't had their regular IPA, though.
Anyone had Deschutes' Hop in the Dark yet?
vermont is actually craft beer heaven, was in waterbury today and alchemist, lawson and hill farmstead were hosting events today at local pubs.
To give yall an idea they were selling all hill farmstead brews ever made on tap in addition to cantilllon geuze on tap and fresh kegs of 3 floyds zombie dust. they also had bottles of drie fonteinen geuze, fou foune and hommage at ridiculously cheap prices. i think ive reached the pinnacle of how good craft beer can get....
To give yall an idea they were selling all hill farmstead brews ever made on tap in addition to cantilllon geuze on tap and fresh kegs of 3 floyds zombie dust. they also had bottles of drie fonteinen geuze, fou foune and hommage at ridiculously cheap prices. i think ive reached the pinnacle of how good craft beer can get....
sharkmuncher
Member
Partial shot of a great weekend. Trinity makes some amazing beer.
MacGurcules
Member
I'm surprisingly okay with that Ol' Yackey in the middle.
sharkmuncher
Member
The Beast. 2009. Caramel, sweet, carb still there. One if the best aged beers I've had.
Excuse the moldy bottle, it was hidden in the bottom if my keezer.
bumbillbee
Member
Damn that's a gorgeous color!
Finally found a bottle of Stickee Monkee, PG2G or anyone else tried it yet? I'm not in any rush to drink it in this hot weather to be honest but I'm not too sure what to expect, since I understand it's not really a "quad" (which is a good thing for me).
Finally found a bottle of Stickee Monkee, PG2G or anyone else tried it yet? I'm not in any rush to drink it in this hot weather to be honest but I'm not too sure what to expect, since I understand it's not really a "quad" (which is a good thing for me).
PG2G and I both had it on tap 6 weeks or so ago. I liked it a lot and think he did too but then it was characterized as a Barleywine. I don't recall it being Quad like, more of a less rich Sucaba.
ErnieMcCracken
Member
Weekend trip to Chicago. Good lord, caught the end of Chicago Beer Week and many places still with some awesome beers on tap. Binny's Lincoln Park location just opened a tasting room so we were shopping while drinking Bourbon County on tap and Surly Furious (they had quite a selection). Spent too much there. Go across the street to Goose Clybourn, more Bourbon County on tap. They also had one called Pineapple Brettanomite on tap which was outstanding.
From our hotel we walk to Paddy Long's, Bourbon County Stout and Barleywine on tap along with 2014 Madame Rose and one called Two More Weeks (another sour). Long night to say the least.
Next day up to Half Acre, tacos and then Bad Apple. Pouring Surly Pentagram (fantastic), Maine Brewing Co. MO, Galactic Double Daisy Cutter and Perennial SUMP (coffee stout). Over to Fountainhead, more Bourbon County on tap (had to pass). Down to Lone Wolf, pouring 2014 Dark Lord (apparently word did not get out too much about this). Back up to Paddy Long's (too good to pass up) and then to DryHop Brewers (meh). Next day we stopped for some Pequod's before hitting the road. Awesome trip, just wish we had more time to hit up more places.
The haul.
From our hotel we walk to Paddy Long's, Bourbon County Stout and Barleywine on tap along with 2014 Madame Rose and one called Two More Weeks (another sour). Long night to say the least.
Next day up to Half Acre, tacos and then Bad Apple. Pouring Surly Pentagram (fantastic), Maine Brewing Co. MO, Galactic Double Daisy Cutter and Perennial SUMP (coffee stout). Over to Fountainhead, more Bourbon County on tap (had to pass). Down to Lone Wolf, pouring 2014 Dark Lord (apparently word did not get out too much about this). Back up to Paddy Long's (too good to pass up) and then to DryHop Brewers (meh). Next day we stopped for some Pequod's before hitting the road. Awesome trip, just wish we had more time to hit up more places.
The haul.
MacGurcules
Member
Aw, neat. Surly Blakkr comes in cans? I've only had Floyds' in bombers.
Is there actually a difference between the Floyds/Surly/Real Ale variants?
Is there actually a difference between the Floyds/Surly/Real Ale variants?
Yeah and there is the Real Ale version which comes in 12oz cans too.
They are each brewed at their respective facilities, but using the same recipe. I have heard some people say there is some differences in taste between the three.
Was ridiculously overpriced IMO.
This. It's over $18 for a four pack here and was just ok. Might be worth trying once if you're a surly fan.
postcyberpunk
Banned
This shit is crazy:
Finally tracked this down and enjoying now:
Been a good beer week.
Besides for Oberon what are some really good wheat/summer beers?
Finally tracked this down and enjoying now:
Been a good beer week.
Besides for Oberon what are some really good wheat/summer beers?
ErnieMcCracken
Member
Falling Rock.
Check.
Crooked Stave
ErnieMcCracken
Member
Cheeky Monk. Funkwerks. Avery.
sharkmuncher
Member
PhoncipleBone
Banned
A local store somehow had a 4 pack of Ten Fidy sitting on the shelf that was canned in September, 2012. So it's been essentially aging on the shelf for 18 months. So of course I snagged it.
Also got stuff from Evil Twin for the first time. Molotov Cocktail was okay. A little too boozy tasting for an IPA. Not bad, but not amazing. I was satisfied, but wont buy it again.
Tonight I am enjoying Evil Twin's I Love You With My Stout. Yeah, really great stuff. Nice and heavy like I like it.
Although, lately I keep getting the Stone mixed 12 pack. The price is too good for the amount of great beer within.
Also got stuff from Evil Twin for the first time. Molotov Cocktail was okay. A little too boozy tasting for an IPA. Not bad, but not amazing. I was satisfied, but wont buy it again.
Tonight I am enjoying Evil Twin's I Love You With My Stout. Yeah, really great stuff. Nice and heavy like I like it.
Although, lately I keep getting the Stone mixed 12 pack. The price is too good for the amount of great beer within.
Yeah, it's really good. I might have another of my 4-pack later, after this Hop in the Dark. Which I don't think really lives up to Sublimely Self-Righteous, which blew me away when I first tried it a few months ago.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
First time I had Sublimely Self Righteous, I liked it, but didn't love it. But every time I get that Stone mixed pack, that is the one I gravitate to first. That one was definitely a slow burn love for me.
bumbillbee
Member
Ughhhhhhhhh. Was at a bottle shop looking for the new Almanac sours but they weren't in stock yet so I decided to finally try Fantome Saison since I heard Dany fixed the problem with the smokiness/infections and I've never tried it before. Turns out it was an older batch and I lost the fucking lottery. Bottle started gushing like crazy and tastes like that abysmal Stone saison with smoked malt. I can almost ignore the terrible smokiness and taste a wonderful saison underneath but I don't think I'll be able to finish a glass of this shit. I know it's part of the risk of getting Fantome but this made a shitty day even shittier for the wonderful price of 16 dollars.