Gordon Shumway
Banned
So..I take it he goes independent, again, if he loses? Weird wild stuff..
destroy the DNC
What is so bad sbout the DNC and Wasserman?
In 2012, Wasserman Schultz attempted to get the DNC to pay for her clothing at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, and in 2013, to pay for her attire at the White House Correspondents Dinner.
Many of Obama's advisers have questioned the move to select Wasserman Schultz as his DNC chairwoman, who they feel comes across as too partisan on television. An internal focus study of the popularity of top Obama campaign surrogates ranked Wasserman Schultz at the bottom.
In February 2015, Politico, citing unnamed sources, reported that Wasserman Schultz had lined up supporters in 2013 to portray any decision by Barack Obama to replace her as DNC chair as "anti-woman and anti-Semitic".
As chairwoman of the DNC, Wasserman Schultz appointed Amy Dacey to the position of CEO of the DNC in October 2013.
Martin O'Malley and Bernie Sanders have criticized her decision to schedule only six debates in the 2016 Presidential Primary, far fewer than in previous election cycles. Both 2016 Democratic presidential candidates have also criticized the timing of these debates, saying that the debates are intentionally scheduled to get few viewers, such as the December 19 debate that was held at the same time as an NFL football game, in order to protect Hillary Clinton's lead as the front runner. The Sanders campaign claimed on December 18, 2015 that the Democratic National Committee chaired by Schultz was "actively attempting to undermine" his campaign, when the DNC denied the Sanders campaign future access to the party's 50-state voter file.
Furthermore, she has been criticized for her handling of a data breach of the NGP Van system, a Democratic voter database, for shutting down access by Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign. This action was in violation of contract and the Sanders campaign immediately filed a lawsuit in Federal court, which resulted in access to the VAN system being restored the next day.
It's not about the money...
It's about the message
The DNC cannot keep treating other candidates than their favorite as bastard children.
Once again Bernie proves why he doesn't need to be anywhere near the presidency. This short-sighted bullshit dose nothing to help. Particularly his message.
They can when that candidate has never been a democrat and ran against every democrat that has ever ran for a seat in Vermont.
ok breh
But when independents have to play the Democrat game because by their very nature Independents can't get enough media exposure to legitimately run, don't expect them to play by the club's rules if they're not fair.
He's still in.
It's not just him, many others from gaf have wrote him off from the start.
ok breh
But when independents have to play the Democrat game because by their very nature Independents can't get enough media exposure to legitimately run, don't expect them to play by the club's rules if they're not fair.
Nope, the club rules are fair. The democratic party was actually really unified under president Obama but Bernie Slanders is petulant.ok breh
But when independents have to play the Democrat game because by their very nature Independents can't get enough media exposure to legitimately run, don't expect them to play by the club's rules if they're not fair.
Do you know why he lost access to the database?
Nope, the club rules are fair. The democratic party was actually really unified under president Obama but Bernie Slanders is petulant.
He'd be the most hated person in recent memory once Trump became President.
How so? Those allegations seems rather minor and the six debates thing seems to have been working fine as the Dem's receive far less attention than the Repubs due to being less crazy.The DNC under Wasserman has been a joke.
ok breh
But when independents have to play the Democrat game because by their very nature Independents can't get enough media exposure to legitimately run, don't expect them to play by the club's rules if they're not fair.
Me too. We need a viable independent candidate. It would prove that Democracy is still alive in this country.
The United States needs a representative liberal party.
They can when that candidate has never been a democrat and ran against every democrat that has ever ran for a seat in Vermont.
I support Bernie but this move baffles me. Wtf are you doing?
Did Sanders ever say anything about that tweet twisting Bill's statement about obstructionism?
Either no, or doesn't care.Do you know why he lost access to the database?
Ummmmm but it was his campaign that did the illegal shit....
His campaign discovered the breach and reported it. What was illegal about that?
They took data.His campaign discovered the breach and reported it. What was illegal about that?
His campaign discovered the breach and reported it. What was illegal about that?
The rules would've been fair if Bernie's campaign hadn't hacked into Hillary's servers. The DNC could've sued the entire campaign for that even if those responsible were fired, instead they chose to simply not give him access to their voter database.
Can you imagine? A four-way GE between Hillary, Sanders, Trump, and whoever the Republicans put up? Two independents with sizable bases supporting them? I can't even imagine what that would be like. Fantasy scenario, but it's not completely outside the realm of possibility.
Both the Sanders campaign and the DNC are waiting for the results of an independent audit conducted after Sanders national data director had made note of a breach in the voter files security, briefly allowing the Sanders campaign access to the Clinton campaigns data. The DNC subsequently cut off the Sanders campaigns access to the voter file a crucial tool for outreach to Democratic voters.
The Sanders campaign immediately fired the staffer who accessed the Clinton campaigns information, and access to the database was restored less than 24 hours after it was removed. Nonetheless, the Sanders campaign argues that the short-lived lack of access was a serious blow to voter outreach
Sanders lawyers originally filed the lawsuit in December, shortly after the campaigns access to the voter file was revoked. An anonymous source close to the Sanders campaign told The Hill that they expect the process to continue amicably as both sides await the results of the audit.
We continue to have productive discussions with the Sanders campaign and look forward to resolving this matter, he said.
Todays serving of lawsuit papers has been called procedural by the Sanders source, and is meant to provide a lengthened window of time for the campaign to continue the lawsuit after a judge gave the campaign a three-day window to file the lawsuit or risk having it dropped from federal court.
His campaign discovered the breach and reported it. What was illegal about that?
lol @ these responses from hilgaf. classic.
I support Bernie but this move baffles me. Wtf are you doing?
Also this seems like an implied admission that his campaign is over.
It's not about the money...
It's about the message
The DNC cannot keep treating other candidates than their favorite as bastard children.
It changes nothing here.Wow at the reactions here, and the selective quoting in the OP is stupid.
Basically the judge forced the campaign to officially file to keep the lawsuit open. The campaign wants to keep it open while they wait on the results of the audit. It's a "lawsuit". It's not Sanders being a sore loser for anything.
Come on Gaf, you're better than this.
And by trying to do the right thing they were still denied access during that time. This is what the lawsuit is about. At every turn DWS has seemingly tried to stifle Sanders' campaign.
How long till the Sanders base runs with this and hails him as a hero for directly taking the DNC?
Would be amazing if he did. I would definitely vote for him. Question is whether or not he would be able to maintain the same level of fundraising.
So what if Trump runs independent/the GOP runs a second candidate and Sanders runs independent?
Wow at the reactions here, and the selective quoting in the OP is stupid.
Basically the judge forced the campaign to officially file to keep the lawsuit open. The campaign wants to keep it open while they wait on the results of the audit. It's a "lawsuit". It's not Sanders being a sore loser for anything.
Come on Gaf, you're better than this.
Hacking is a very serious issue. Being honest that it happened doesn't mean that you can go unpunished, even slightly.
So what if Trump runs independent/the GOP runs a second candidate and Sanders runs independent?
I'm a lifelong democrat and my loyalty is to my party. Bernie is a selfish prick who shouldn't be running as a democrat. If his campaign was really about his message/politics and not his own selfish gains he'd be supporting down democrats and blue candidates in Red Danger areas. But he's not.
Say whatever you want about Hillary but she cares more about my party than any other candidate in the field.
Today’s serving of lawsuit papers has been called “procedural” by the Sanders source
So what if Trump runs independent/the GOP runs a second candidate and Sanders runs independent?
Man, if he went independent for the GE, I'd be sooooo conflicted. On one hand, the Dems have the best shot at beating the Republicans, but on the other hand, I'd feel internally obligated to vote for the candidate I most believe in. Bernie would not be an insignificant spoiler to Hillary if he ran independently. And beyond that, I would looooove for a viable far-left party to exist in American politics. I'd probably vote Dem if Trump got the Republican nomination, but if Trump were to also go third-party, Bernie all the way. I'm not loyal to the Democrats--only averse to the Republicans.
Can you imagine? A four-way GE between Hillary, Sanders, Trump, and whoever the Republicans put up? Two independents with sizable bases supporting them? I can't even imagine what that would be like. Fantasy scenario, but it's not completely outside the realm of possibility.