NightShift
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Fuck, I didn't realise how white-washed Casca was when I watched it. Really makes me not want to watch and support this bullshit.
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Berserk 2016 Anime |OT| Prelude to the CGI Boat
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DrunkShogun
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We really need a rich berserk fan to get involved with the franchise because it keeps getting the low budget treatment.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Maaaaan, that CGI is really jarring. It was fine and not as obvious in the Golden Age Arc films. Even Ajin and Knights of Sidonia handled the style much better by comparison. Maybe it was the attempt at an illustrated look that reminded me so much of Valkyria Chronicles that threw me off? That, and the stiffness of the characters made it hard to watch. Puck going from stiff character model to comical SD blob was just as jarring. First time it happened, I was like "Wtf is that?"
I guess other than that, it was ok. Would have liked it if they opened with a traumatized Casca in the cave, fearful of Guts, and him getting his arm/sword... Or at least mentioned kept some of the gore. Oh well... At least it's more Berserk and not a third retelling of golden arc.
I guess other than that, it was ok. Would have liked it if they opened with a traumatized Casca in the cave, fearful of Guts, and him getting his arm/sword... Or at least mentioned kept some of the gore. Oh well... At least it's more Berserk and not a third retelling of golden arc.
EvilKatarn
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That Kotaku article sure is something.
darkwing-buck
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The Silver
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Ah yes the place that have us some greatest hits like Sword Art Online being the smartest anime in years
Berserk 1997 is still the definitive anime adaptation of the manga. It's just too bad that the same team couldn't continue on it. Everything was perfect.
Yep, would have loved more of it back in the day.
Yep, just one of the many reasons why the first Berserk anime is the best:
Also, screw Kotaku.
What the..
Did he even get an interview for this position? Do they not give CVs in Japan?
Kenzodielocke
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It was not that bad guys...
Whitewashing is bad though.
Whitewashing is bad though.
SolarPowered
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GKSilKamina
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Well, Schierke does appear in the episode itself for a little bit, along with Flora and Ivalera.
...not worth sitting through the episode for it, and this is coming from someone who didn't completely dislike it.
A part of me thinks Miura either doesn't give a shit about the adaptations and the original Berserk was a lucky fluke. Apparently he was working on the Musou game in part and might have been one of the reasons for his last break. We shall see if that is any better quality. It could also be a case where Miura just isn't very good at designing and creating things outside of manga so his decisions aren't the wisest. I'm assuming a combination of all of the above.
Also be careful what you wish for, look at what Seth Rogan and crew turned the Preacher comics into.
I thought everyone liked Preacher (I know jack shit about it lol)
sensui-tomo
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Heres hoping that the animation was just bad in the first few episodes like it was for the golden age movies (where that mean i gotta wait till the end for it to look good.) Casca looking white otoh needs to go asap... or is this a ploy for them to sell better BRs which actually look amazing?(kinda like toei)
Critics eat it the fuck up but its a poorly paced mess in a lot of ways that is destroying the characters and just making up huge chunks of the story because they didn't have the budget to really do the start of the comics justice amongst wanting to set things up better. Its mixed but like this anime there is a lot more bad than good. Worse its from supposed super fans who seem to have little grasp of what made the comic good. I'm going to keep watching and hope they turn it around but there were so many really poorly made decisions.
Edit: Its not just comic fans, a lot of people with no experience with the comic are pretty befuddled a lot of times over what's going on.
Seems liked she missed the scene where the one girl gets dragged into an alley.
Also not sure how Guts saving a kid is less dull. The manga did it so much better where you weren't sure if he just saved puck or if he wanted attack the thugs anyway to get information
justjustin
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Welp, I made a huge mistake rewatching the '97 anime right before this first new episode.
Ironically, while rewatching it, I thought "wow, I forgot how low budget this show was!" Quite often, the show had to resort to panning around still images to represent action scenes, and sometimes the backgrounds looked like they were watercolored on a 3x5 index card and zoomed in. 99% of the show had only shading tone for moving characters and objects.
But that show was saved by absolutely ace direction, a phenomenal soundtrack, and damn good drawing (even if the coloring or amount of animation frames weren't amazing). What was drawn was drawn well, and there were a number of striking and memorable painted still shots.
And this first new episode didn't have any of those saving qualities, unfortunately. It felt like a long trailer of random scenes stitched together with boring camera angles. I have not read the manga, so I'll have to watch a few more episodes to see if the show can build a good story, but I probably won't stick with it. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole season is paced like a highlights reel of the manga.
Ironically, while rewatching it, I thought "wow, I forgot how low budget this show was!" Quite often, the show had to resort to panning around still images to represent action scenes, and sometimes the backgrounds looked like they were watercolored on a 3x5 index card and zoomed in. 99% of the show had only shading tone for moving characters and objects.
But that show was saved by absolutely ace direction, a phenomenal soundtrack, and damn good drawing (even if the coloring or amount of animation frames weren't amazing). What was drawn was drawn well, and there were a number of striking and memorable painted still shots.
And this first new episode didn't have any of those saving qualities, unfortunately. It felt like a long trailer of random scenes stitched together with boring camera angles. I have not read the manga, so I'll have to watch a few more episodes to see if the show can build a good story, but I probably won't stick with it. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole season is paced like a highlights reel of the manga.
Kabuki Waq
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well that was fucking awful in every way
MetroidPrimeRib
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No its fucking not. I'd rather have nothing. Berserk is not a well that needs to be poisoned further.
Kotaku are complete idiots when it comes to anime, who knew?
Mister Wolf
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So far so good, they picked the best portion of the beserk series to turn into a 26 episode series.
SENPAIatLARGE
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Richard Einbess isn't that bad, and has some pretty good insights, but this writer has taste so bad that not even Crazy Diamond can fix it. And LOL if she thinks no women are going to get kidnapped or raped in the rest of the show
MetroidPrimeRib
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Ah yes Mister "Flowers of Evil is a Boring, Unengaging Anime" AKA Mister "Sword Art Online Is the Smartest Anime Ive Seen in Years"
SENPAIatLARGE
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Was he praising the first 13 episodes of SAO? Alot of people did at the time, and looked stupid in retrospect.
FlashbladeGAF
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Cant believe this is what we ended up getting after all these years
I remember seeing these pics back in 2009 and being hyped.
http://www.animenation.net/ask-john-is-new-berserk-anime-in-production/
Maybe that's the reason why the new series looks so outdated....
Because it was made so long ago. :/
I remember seeing these pics back in 2009 and being hyped.
http://www.animenation.net/ask-john-is-new-berserk-anime-in-production/
Maybe that's the reason why the new series looks so outdated....
Because it was made so long ago. :/
hosannainexcelsis
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The article was written about the first half of the first season. Still, calling anything about Sword Art Online smart is... highly dubious. And to say "If there is one problem with Sword Art Online, it's that it is overly tragic." - er, really?
I guess I'll ignore this for now then.
I like the idea/background of the show so I'll check out the better material.
Thanks for the input.
It's even worse when I saw it.
At least it's entertaining, that's something I guess...
CreeperBlocks
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This is probably one of the worst adaptations I have ever seen. The CGI is so jarring. The show is actually hard to watch because of it. It's not even good CGI, it's a fucking mess. The CGI does not fit the style of Berserk and I can't stress that enough. Puck's VA is absolutely awful.
I thought this was going to be at the beginning of the manga because I don't remember this at all.
Your better off watching the 90s series than this crap. I'm so dissappointed
2/10
I might not even bother with the next episode.
I thought this was going to be at the beginning of the manga because I don't remember this at all.
Your better off watching the 90s series than this crap. I'm so dissappointed
2/10
I might not even bother with the next episode.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Doubt I will continue past episode 2 after I leave California from AX. Just watching with friends and drinking a lot rn
The New Berserk Anime Already Outshines The '90s Original HELL NO KOTAKU.
I feel like in a week Kotaku is going to have an article talking about how shitty the white washing is. Maybe from the same author as that article.
While the 97 anime isn't perfect, it's music is top class and drives the emotion. The lack of gore, as well as some of the characters like Puck, Skull Knight, etc I'm ok with because it told the golden age arc so well.
Dark_castle
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I don't like the pseudo CGI effect in between the regular animation. They looked really jarring and immersion breaking.
Parakeetman
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Yeah that was hot fucking garbage.
Sometimes nothing is better...
Sometimes nothing is better...
He gets a rushed as fuck, condensed movie trilogy that softens the impact of one of the best arcs from the manga, Tecmo Koei instead of From Software, years of being stuck on a boat, and now a shitty, amateur hour anime adaptation after decades of waiting.
Guts just can't catch a break.
I can't even meme "it's better than nothing" because at least with nothing there was always the hope that someday we might get a good adaptation that follows the manga from beginning to end with the same amount of care David Productions puts into Jojo. Now that dream is dead and all we have to show for it is this crap.
If I want to re-experience the story guess I'll just reread the manga. It's about time anyway.
Guts just can't catch a break.
I can't even meme "it's better than nothing" because at least with nothing there was always the hope that someday we might get a good adaptation that follows the manga from beginning to end with the same amount of care David Productions puts into Jojo. Now that dream is dead and all we have to show for it is this crap.
If I want to re-experience the story guess I'll just reread the manga. It's about time anyway.
DrunkShogun
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I was always doubting it would turn out good but I thought I might see some cool scenes from the manga animated such as everything skull knight from the movies but even that seems unlikely. I fear how they are going to butcher the sword graveyard scene.
The Silver
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starting rereading Berserk and I don't remember a goddamn thing from the Blackswordsman arc, Guts can be quite the dickbag.
Watched this last night with my brother, this show does not look good visually at all lol. But I still found it to be pretty watchable. Just seeing this stuff getting animated feels a bit novel, but man do I wish it looked better. Or hell, at-least increase the framerate on the CGI, Christ. Maybe I should try watching this shit with motion interpolation on hahaha.
The whitewashing of Casca is probably my biggest gripe at this point. That shit really isn't cool at all, and is very frustrating.
The whitewashing of Casca is probably my biggest gripe at this point. That shit really isn't cool at all, and is very frustrating.
The first half of the first season of Sword Art Online was still stupid as shit and was clearly written by someone who had no real understanding of video game mechanics (or really much of anything else, for that matter).
The fact that it was less stupid than what came after it doesn't really absolve that article of anything.
As for this Berserk series, I was probably going to check it out for the sake of pure curiosity, but whitewashed Casca pretty much kills any remaining ember of interest for me. I really don't understand why it's such a difficult ask for somebody to just adapt Berserk properly.
DrunkShogun
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I've always thought her as a south Asian character so she would be considered brown in my eyes. Either way, they have made her complexion far lighter.
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