lol that shit looks like a Diablo 2 FMV. What are they doing?
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Berserk |OT| - Big men, bigger swords, OFF THE BOAT - Berserk #344 24/6/2016
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JadedWriter
Member
With this animation they're not going to do my Farnese scenes justice, I just know it.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
InfiniDragon
Member
That looks god awful other than the Dragonslayer itself which actually looks good in that weird 3D style they went with. Really wish we were just getting more manga on a normal schedule, but it's Miura we're talking about so RIP.
Even the dragonslayer looks off to me. In the last shot, I swear they grew it by half it's length again because it's way longer than Guys is tall.
Who the hell saw that sword and thought "You know what? We need it to be even BIGGER"
JadedWriter
Member
It's already been established that they don't know how to adapt this franchise so I don't even know why you're surprised. They change stuff just to change stuff.
I wouldn't know, I only ever read the manga and saw bits and pieces of the movie just to watch certain scenes animated. I didn't see the movies as a cohesive whole.
I actually don't mind for the most part. The logistics in adapting Berserk would be insane (though I still think they ought to go with the Hellsing Ultimate Route and just adapt 1 volume at a time) and I am happy just having the manga. So if they want to just use the movies as a pretense to just animate the particular scenes they want to see, that's fine. I just don't understand why, if that's what they're doing, why they wouldn't make sure to do it well, because that commercial looks butt ugly. I don't care that they changed something. But Guts having a dragonslayer 1.5 times the length of his body.....look, guys, I enjoy phalic symbols of power as much as the next guy, but there comes a point where it gets so big that it stops being intimidating and cool and just starts looking silly.
I actually don't mind for the most part. The logistics in adapting Berserk would be insane (though I still think they ought to go with the Hellsing Ultimate Route and just adapt 1 volume at a time) and I am happy just having the manga. So if they want to just use the movies as a pretense to just animate the particular scenes they want to see, that's fine. I just don't understand why, if that's what they're doing, why they wouldn't make sure to do it well, because that commercial looks butt ugly. I don't care that they changed something. But Guts having a dragonslayer 1.5 times the length of his body.....look, guys, I enjoy phalic symbols of power as much as the next guy, but there comes a point where it gets so big that it stops being intimidating and cool and just starts looking silly.
JadedWriter
Member
I've only seen the first and third movie. That shit moves at such a break neck pace that there's almost no sense of levity with it. Guts and Griffith meet and break up in the first fucking movie...the first fucking movie, it's like 90 minutes long tops if I'm not mistaken. It's pretty much just a music video in my opinion and they remove certain things that are very key to Gut's character if I'm not mistaken. Anybody remember if Griffith had his breakdown in the movie in front of Caska during that flashback cause I do not remember.
InfiniDragon
Member
Maybe the guys that made Sephiroth in Kingdom Hearts had a hand in it, lol. They took his already massive Masamune and made the blade about three feet longer. XD
JadedWriter
Member
He'll probably be on the boat, then off the boat, then stuck in existential limbo within the span of 3 movies.
JadedWriter
Member
It really does. Gunslinger Girl (first season) and Claymore got the Madhouse treatment, Berserk...got cgi.
Berserk deserves so much better.
I mean I'll probably end up watching it and recommending it, if it's serviceable, to my friends who are hesitant to jump into the manga, but as far as a legitimate adaptation of Berserk goes it's going in the wrong direction.
Also I just read your posts on the previous page about Ufotable being more preferable. I'm not their biggest fan, but I'd much rather have them because they know how to do a good fight scene.
JadedWriter
Member
They aren't perfect but I've thoroughly enjoyed Fate Stay Night and Fate Zero so I can't complain too heavily with what they do. Besides the artwork looks nice and Saber and Irisviel are in my shipping fleet.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Yeah sorry, but Berserk in Ufotable's hands with their overuse of shockwave effects and speedy effects is not something I would want. Completely goes against the sort of feel I think Berserk should have.
Plus, I have no idea how ufotable works with designs that aren't relatively simple like the fate series.
Plus, I have no idea how ufotable works with designs that aren't relatively simple like the fate series.
JadedWriter
Member
Would still look better than the damn movies. I'd prefer Madhouse myself or fucking Production IG but Ufotable's not ugly, just stylized.
EvilKatarn
Member
By the way Hirasawa released a new album last month and it pretty much rules.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICrQuup07YQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICrQuup07YQ
FF Seraphim
Member
This is excellent... Is there a legal way to buy the MP3s? Tried iTunes and Amazon and cannot seem to find it
JadedWriter
Member
Rickert
RadioHeadAche
Member
Unless you're using Asian/JPN iTunes, I don't think so.
First movie is actually about 75mins, but I think it ends with Guts hearing Griffith talk about a true friend to the princess.
Shamrock7r
Member
I just can't get excited for the anime project knowing it's contributing to another hiatus. sigh
The Omega Man
Member
think of it this way, a hiatus was going to happen again regardless, we just got an anime while we wait, you're delusional if you though Miura was going to be on a regular schedule from now on.
Shamrock7r
Member
You're probably right. Bring on the novel!
EvilKatarn
Member
Ay yo thanks to everyone for keeping the Berserk OT going for the entirety of 2015.
Let's all wish plenty of inspiration to Miura for 2016 and forward.
Let's all wish plenty of inspiration to Miura for 2016 and forward.
umop_3pisdn
Member
You guys need to get used to the inconsistent release schedule, six months or so is nothing if you've been following this series for a while, it practically feels like a nice break honestly.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Special thanks to Tricky I Shadow for keeping the topic alive when the comic wasn't.
EvilKatarn
Member
I mean if we're going by those stats our top spammer is Jaded.
JadedWriter
Member
Oh yeah that makes more sense. I probably just left it at that because it showed the fight in the preview to movie 2 and I just left it alone cause of manga knowledge.
Lol I do my best/worst. I'm already turning into "that guy" in the Naruto anime thread.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
I find it quite difficult to articulate the vast appeal Berserk holds for me. It's just pure quality from top to bottom. I was first exposed to it just last year, and it has so intensely changed the way I view the world and my life since then. Literally - it is one of the cornerstones in my inner world. I consistently refer to it as a source of internal symbols and meanings.
I can analyse aspects of the story for hours. It actually increases my interest, cumulatively, and keeps me thinking "Man, this Miura guy is a storytelling, character weaving, universe crafting genius!" I can't think of many other things that have had this effect on me. It can be a great work of art, able to stand on it's own merits with awesome execution, artistry or poise, but still, I often find it pales in comparison to the power Berserk has had on me. Berserk is a whole universe in it's own right, and not just in the typical fictional sense. Everything seems to be carefully thought out, and there's a heap of subtlety. I also think a large part of it is Miura's willingness to explore various existential problems such as the meaning of struggle, overwhelming despair, and the darker aspects of humanity.
It has offered heaps of inspiration. There is this deep sense of truth that resounds throughout the story. From incredibly intimate and personal levels, to incredibly vast and metaphysical (yet metaphysical doesn't just mean arbitrary hocus pocus, one can actually extrapolate the metaphysical things for themselves, and have it make so much sense! It's logical and plausible and appeals to the patterns and such that I see in the world). It's just extremely rich, and in many ways it mirrors (and also redefined) the philosophy I've held, about existentialism/suffering, archetypes, the existence of evil (the idea of it) and how all of them are wrought from humanity.
It blows my mind when I think that this is all the work of just one man. I was never previously interested in manga, but Berserk showed to me just how masterfully it can be done, and how much can be conveyed just from a few panels. Also, the art! THE ART! I don't think I need to say anything more about the wonderful art.
Blah, this amounted to more of a "Berserk is just an effing masterpiece" than me specifically saying why. If I was a more patient person, I could write paragraphs and paragraphs trying to encapsulate the essence of Berserk's awesomeness, from the smallest of minutia, to large/overriding themes or motifs, but I don't think this would be doing anyone any favors, as I have a tendency to be long winded or verbose, and by all means, I feel the work should speak for itself. I'm so glad I discovered it for myself!
JadedWriter
Member
Whelp all caught up. Time to begin my long ass wait for the next chapter. I'll be reading claymore and posting about Naruto in the meantime I guess.
JadedWriter
Member
I almost died when I saw Guts dressed like a Claymore.
You know what would make for a cool fanfic? If Guts was the one with the Crimson Behelit. It'd be pretty easy to do, as the dynamic of the two characters is set to mirror each other, so all you'd need to mention that things mostly worked out how they did in the manga, but Guts was the one with the behelit instead. All that would really be needed is to put pressure on Gut's desire for freedom from Griffith and have him lose the duel in the snow. At having his dream (or rather, quest for a dream) crushed, he'd fall into a dark mood like Griffith did and have him and Caska grow closer instead of further, and Guts has no out, so he starts lashing out. Hell, he might let it slip that he killed the King's brother and nephew publically so he needs to pay for his actions, but Griffith refuses, and things fall out like they did before, but this time with the role reversed. Same general things happen and Guts is the one who ascends instead, and you have Griffith instead now being the one whose hounded down by demons.
If someone did something like this and it isn't terribly written, send it my way, as it sounds like an interesting experiment to perform with the series.
If someone did something like this and it isn't terribly written, send it my way, as it sounds like an interesting experiment to perform with the series.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Heh, I had a feeling you'd like that one! Some of them are seriously fantastic.
The shirtless Griffith one with Femto in the back is my new iPhone wallpaper.
JadedWriter
Member
The berserker armor ones are great.
RadioHeadAche
Member
Do we get any backstory for the millennial Hawks at some point? Or is it left a mystery like Zodd and Skull Knight?
True Savior
Member
Nope.
JadedWriter
Member
Skull Knight will probably forever be that former king of a fallen country that Guts is trying his damndest not to end up like.
I see someone else's browses the Berserk subreddit haha.
JadedWriter
Member
Schierke is so cute. Anybody ever do fan art for Isidro's fish girlfriend or Sonia?Seems I found a new wallpaper for my phone.
Edit:
Yep:
This is good:
Anybody else find it weird that a lot of the Farnese and Serpico fanart are about the incesty parts of their relationship?
RadioHeadAche
Member
Yeah, but it feels slightly implied in the comic. However, at the same time they don't know they're related (right?).
JadedWriter
Member
I'm pretty sure they know since it was revealed to Farnese in a flashback. I don't know if Serpico knows...actually I think he knows too. I think they know or at the very least one of them knows that they're half siblings. Hell Farnese was the one that set his mother on fire...knowingly.