Flutta
Banned
Game is clearly not done, needed more time. But no increasing those GP subs is more important…..lol....just now my game froze when I clicked quit game. Embracing chaos....
Flutta
Banned
crackajack
Member
What a weird statement.
I can certainly believe that it's true, that freedom invites bugs, and it's fine to laugh about and present bugs in some video in extras or whatever but "embracing" is a stupid attempt on spinning it.
We lost control of the code and game logic! Oh no, shrugs shoulders, grins, patts his own shoulder. What!
I can certainly believe that it's true, that freedom invites bugs, and it's fine to laugh about and present bugs in some video in extras or whatever but "embracing" is a stupid attempt on spinning it.
We lost control of the code and game logic! Oh no, shrugs shoulders, grins, patts his own shoulder. What!
MonkeyClaw36
Banned
This is simply impossible. Thousands of lines of code made by people. You are bound to get bugs.
People who except bugfree games since the 2000's are simply oblivious to the complexity of coding.
You cant eradicate ALL bugs. It's simply impossible with games of this magnitude...
Yes, games used to have less bugs. But they were also a fraction of the size of modern games coding wise.
More code = More prone to bugs. Its not rocket science.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Since when is Pete Hines CEO?
FunkMiller
Banned
Or, how about:
"We're sorry the game has shipped with bugs, and we're working hard to correct them."
You absolute fucking tool.
"We're sorry the game has shipped with bugs, and we're working hard to correct them."
You absolute fucking tool.
MonkeyClaw36
Banned
You a playstation owner? Or an Atari or something? Dang bruh
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
This entitled & completely unrealistic attitude towards expectations in a game the size & scope of something never done before such as Starfield is why so many developers play it safe and keep making the same thing over again, instead of trying something new.
I'd rather devs keeps pushing the boundaries of what's possible to new heights. Bugs are part of that, like it or not. Also this game is launching with fewer bugs than any previous BGS title, but I'm assuming that doesn't matter to you. If you don't want anything unexpected to happen, maybe stop playing interactive games and go watch a movie or read a book.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Do you have any idea how much time & money is put into QA on a game this size and scope.
FunkMiller
Banned
Not enough in Bethesda's case.
Irrespective of that, his communications could and should be better.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
The issue is that Bethesda doesn't bother to fix a lot of known bugs. Latest Skyrim release for the Switch still has same bugs from OG 2011 Skyrim.
That's the issue. If course such a complex title is going to have bugs. Problem is when the developer or publisher don't put in much effort to do anything about them.
Hudo
Member
I feel like this is the worst answer they could've given. "Yeah, we could make a game with less bugs. Easy. But we chose not to because freedom.
How fucked must your system of systems be when for emergent gameplay to happen, you need to allow bugs. Like, what? One doesn't exclude the other unless you have a major problem in your design.
Men_in_Boxes
Banned
It's actually a good philosophy. Most don't want to deal with chaos so it creates an environment with few competitors.
Bethesda is revered for a reason.
Bethesda is revered for a reason.
Gudji
Member
Wtf wasn't the game mostly bug free and shit.lol....just now my game froze when I clicked quit game. Embracing chaos....
MonkeyClaw36
Banned
See my post about bugs, read back your own and then comment. Its IMPOSSIBLE to eradicate all bugs in a game thats 120+gb..... It's not possible.
Unless you do a 4 year beta with 100.000+ dedicated testers, even then you won't come near 100% Bug free.
Gudji
Member
Is this an era rally or something?!
FunkMiller
Banned
The point being made is that it was a stupid fucking thing to say. The amount of actual bugs is irrelevant.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Can AI embrace it a little less? 4 hours in and most enemies have trouble withg stucking in walls, Pete.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Because they were hoping it would coincide with a typical buggy Bethesda release and capitalize on it when the game became available for people to play.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Gudji
Member
None, it also brings nothing new to the table while doing the bare minimum well.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
infinite quests in space.
cireza
Member
That's a bug-free game you can play indeed. Have fun !
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feynoob
Banned
MonkeyClaw36
Banned
Oh yes, the reasoning is beyond anything acceptable. Fair point.
They need to be honest and say: Yes, you may encounter bugs but rest assured we take this seriously.
MonkeyClaw36
Banned
Oh come on.... This is being a drama queen. The game gets a lot right. But you havent played it, have you?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You've always been down to the nuts and back, please review.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
I have no problem with them at all. Agree to disagree, I guess. This is by all accounts the least buggy of their games and yet still the complaints and armchair quarterbacking. I find it all a bit tiring.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Local co-op is far from merely a "artistic choice". That would be running two instances of the game on one platform, and not something that would be done well unless the entire game was designed around it. You know this already, of course. You're just being obtuse.
nowhat
Member
Correction - by pretty much every account, the least buggy BGS game in like the first 10 to 15 hours. Intentional as many reviewers may not progress any further? Who knows.
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lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
their weekly gathering.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Many many outlets have had the game for 2+ weeks and have played over 100 hours, actually. Playing a non-Day One patch build, in fact. Which would be even buggier, no doubt. Show me all the negative reviews about how the game is too buggy and miring the experience.
Early access users who just started playing overnight are in the range you're talking about. But sure, let's keep arguing about this.
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Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Must be something in the digital water around here, yeesh. Never seen so much hate from people who aren't even planning to buy the game.
balls of snow
Member
None on my end. Tried to recallibrate hdr through series x system settings. Still had the sepia look to it. Its a creative decision.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
If you think about the status and money that was put into this game, it's not acceptable to ship it in some of the state its in.
AAA games are held to a higher standard so with some of the issues and lack of polish in certain reguards, it shows that Bethesda isn't some tentpole or in the status they were during their peak years.
They will work on this and fix but it shouldn't take the community to patch it up.
Dark Souls PC comes to mind when Durante fixed that. Not excusable then even if a "smaller" Japanese studio and less now.
AAA games are held to a higher standard so with some of the issues and lack of polish in certain reguards, it shows that Bethesda isn't some tentpole or in the status they were during their peak years.
They will work on this and fix but it shouldn't take the community to patch it up.
Dark Souls PC comes to mind when Durante fixed that. Not excusable then even if a "smaller" Japanese studio and less now.
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LordCBH
Member
Agreed. The dragons randomly flying backwards in the PS3 version of skyrim was hilarious.
Connificent
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Is that a Lizzo cameo?
Flutta
Banned
skit_data
Member
I felt like embracing chaos when one of the civil war questlines broke on my playthrough of Skyrim when I was trying to platinum the game.
It's like the 5th special anniversary definitive directors cut remastered edition of the game so one would think stuff like that would've been sorted.
It's like the 5th special anniversary definitive directors cut remastered edition of the game so one would think stuff like that would've been sorted.
GHG
Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Imagine if this was released back when it was originally supposed to.
Would that chaos then be Armageddon levels?
Would that chaos then be Armageddon levels?