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[mckmas8808]

Toxic Positivity. is one hell of a drug

I'm starting to believe Toxic Positivity is extremely bad if not checked.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

You know this is one of those things where I believe this is entirely dependent on when you really engaged with the series. I'm not saying you're wrong, just Oblivion is my favourite. Morrowind was too much for my 12 year old brain to cope with at the time.

You know what to do:

It’s on like 3€ for the Steam key.

 

[rodrigolfp]

If it's the best I don't want to see the worst.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

The best game Bethesda ever made is called The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. It's also the greatest WRPG ever made. Second place is Fallout 3.

 

[Alebrije]

Good we have next witcher and Even Kingdom come 2 in case next Elders scrolls it's a joke.

It seems studios like Bethesda and Ubisoft are fine with 6-7 scores on their products, they are not working for GOTY don't care to get 9-10 Review scores. Just throw average or Even mediocre games with a Big marketing camping and vuala :

 

[mckmas8808]

It's like the Ubisoft CEO. A lot of these people are living in an entirely different reality at this point. La la land.

Maybe Home From Home is a problem in the gaming industry.

 

[TheloniusFabdul]

I mean.....that's a fair counter point, but "trollpher"? What the hell is that all about?

To me, Oblivion and Morrowind are their two best games ever and he didn't work on either of them based on his profile. That's my point. Why that offends you.....no clue.

He absolutely did work on oblivion though.

He was responsible for the dark brotherhood quest line, which makes his comments seem even more out of touch.

 

[Topher]

He absolutely did work on oblivion though.

He was responsible for the dark brotherhood quest line, which makes his comments seem even more out of touch.

Weird that he left that off his profile but included his work on Fallout 3 and 4.

 

[TheloniusFabdul]

Weird that he left that off his profile but included his work on Fallout 3 and 4.

Yeah, I don't know why he would omit that.

According to this he also worked on the Bloodmoon expansion for Morrowind.

 

[Topher]

Yeah, I don't know why he would omit that.

According to this he also worked on the Bloodmoon expansion for Morrowind.

ah.....ok. That's good to know. His profile doesn't have a lot of stuff he did.

 

[T4keD0wN]

First Bethesda game that doesnt get bricked and can be completed without crashes, still not their best game, has to feel bad.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I'm starting to believe Toxic Positivity is extremely bad if not checked.

just as woke

 

[StueyDuck]

They put a space skin on fallout.

Who would've thought adding some sub par vehicle segments (spaceship fights) between maps would be so difficult.

 

[Field]

Are they still using the same ugly dialogue animations from Oblivion?

 

[GymWolf]

Are they still using the same ugly dialogue animations from Oblivion?

Yes, but now what characters say is even less interesting, such an incredible combo of shit tech AND writing.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Would have been a hell of a lot better had they included the vehicle day one. I might have actually wanted to explore. But having to literally run for 5 to 10 minutes just to get to main quest objective sapped away whatever desire I had for exploring. So many things in this game were close to being great. If the game had been released today, I think reception would have been a lot better.

The best part of Fallout and Skyrim was wandering off the beaten path and getting involved in a full blown quest line. The system of Starfield replaced that with procedurally generated content. I do agree that Starfield did something’s well such as faction quests. But I still maintain it’s a 7/10 game at best.

 

[JimmyRustler]

They are so delusional, no wonder they make shit games now

This. Everyone here would probably say the same if everyone in their bubble would tell them it’s the best thing ever.

Devs in these big corpos have become totally detached from reality. Damn…

 

[Halo is Back]

It's a weird thing to say since every other game they made before has been better. Dude is in pure damage control mode

 

[Icymanipulator]

All this does is make me worried for TES6

 

[mitch1971]

They are working with an engine so old that early man could of used it to draw cave paintings with.

 

[Da1337Vinci]

Sadly I think they did something different than usual but it ended up not being well received.

Either because the things they do differently is just too unfamiliar for the fanbase or just not matured enough design.

Nonetheless as creatives they have at least the joy of working on a new IP.
Especially in such a scale which is a rare occurrence in the gaming space.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

the praise is universal and growing

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Christ this is a repeat of ME Andromeda.

 

[Dazraell]

This guy already had a few dumb takes about Starfield in the past, so I'm not even surprised he said it

 

[RavageX]

The issue goes a lot further.

Most of the planets have small and empty exploration areas that are at best populated by content that’s pretty much the same down to enemy placement.

So vehicle or not you hit that “wall” pretty quick. It kills off the major bonus of past Bethesda games, which is organically encountering interesting quests and locations.

This doesn’t really exist on randomly generated planets.

Yeah, I decided to simply explore and find that it seems 2 out of every 5 bases I visited were the exact same, down to the recorded logs and everything. Now...unless my game is bugged, that is just shitty.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Fallout 3, Morrowind, Skyrim, Fallout 4, and Oblivion were way better.

 

[Codes 208]

Why play No Man’s Skyrim if I can just play real Skyrim?

 

[TheAmazingSpiderMan]

Best game in what way FFS.

 

[Raven117]

Tbh, the moment they ditched Jeremy Soule as the composer, the future review score dropped by 30% lmao.

Ha. Yup. That dude's soundtrack is a part of the backbone of Skyrim.

 

[Plague Doctor]

The majority of this generation of Western Devs are fucking delusional because of Toxic Positivity and other shit.

We really need an entire industry reset. A hard reset.

 

[Sgt.Asher]

How can you think pasting the same 25 points of interest over and over again is in anyway good?

 

[Aion002]

I enjoyed Fallout 3 and Skyrim way more...

 

[ItJustWorks]

They are so delusional, no wonder they make shit games now

Yep, can't stand when this happens. I swear these devs aren't the same as typical gamers. Their ego gets caught up in shit and they don't see things as objectively.

Thinking this is your best game tells me you are completely oblivious to what people are asking for that were in your older games. Meaning, you'll never change.

We want non repetitive hand written creative quests. Not radiant ones. We want soul, not just expanse.

 

[ItJustWorks]

I mean.....that's a fair counter point, but "trollpher"? What the hell is that all about?

To me, Oblivion and Morrowind are their two best games ever and he didn't work on either of them based on his profile. That's my point. Why that offends you.....no clue.

Oh he didn't work on them and he's the lead designer? We'll there you go. Bethesda is cooked.

 

[ItJustWorks]

On a technical + gameplay level, it's their best game. Too bad it's wasted on extremely boring content.

Yeah and devs like Bethesda don't see the difference. They don't understand the little thing in between anymore

 

[Nickolaidas]

Thanks for letting me know that ES6 is going to be absolute shit, Bethesda.

 

[Topher]

Oh he didn't work on them and he's the lead designer? We'll there you go. Bethesda is cooked.

Follow the conversation my man. It don't end there. I was going by his linkedin profile, but it doesn't have everything apparently.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

The majority of this generation of Western Devs are fucking delusional because of Toxic Positivity and other shit.

We really need an entire industry reset. A hard reset.

Japanese games have always been better

The PS360 generation was just a blip

 

[Emedan]

Im so sorry for those who expect anything decent out of that game, let alone hyped for it

Bro I bought an Xbox Series X for that game alone having been a TES fan since 2001.. I don't even own any games for it other than the old 360 Metal Gear HD Collection.. It's gonna be so fucked.

He absolutely did work on oblivion though.

He was responsible for the dark brotherhood quest line, which makes his comments seem even more out of touch.

Yeah, I don't know why he would omit that.

According to this he also worked on the Bloodmoon expansion for Morrowind.

Wth? Actually some of the best content Bethesda have ever released. (and like many others have said, yes Morrowind is the goat)

 

[Power Pro]

I only read the thread title, and to that I say.

 

[RoboFu]

I installed all 170ish gigs on my pc to try the dlc. I didn't even make to the starting point before uninstalling the game again.

 

[lmimmfn]

Their "best" is defined by the devs working on it so if this is their "best" then maybe they should look at their developer competence, it seems lacking.

It's a trend across all developers/publishers, complaining about all the increased costs but hiring devs(who are useless) just to meet ESG goals increasing costs and increasing game prices.

You reap what you sow!

 

[Nasigil]

You see, now that is why I am worried about ES6

Worried? At this point you shouldn't have much hope for ES6 to begin with.

Bethesda hasn't make a great game after 2011, and looks worse and worse with every release.

 

[Nasigil]

HA!
Its just a joke, for whatever reason that name popped into my head one day when you were taking the piss out of some of the fresh meat. Just made me laugh, so I look forward to using it every so often!

Nah, don't get it twisted I am not offended...just want to point out the person has been there for 22 years...yes they may be "sniffing their own farts" or whatever but they have plenty of old war wounds I am sure.

You are putting way too much credit in to the work time length. I've seen plenty of old "experienced" employees who's really just been doing a mediocre/acceptable job of something very repetitive the whole time, never thought about improving or expanding their knowledge or skillset in anyway, and the firm just makes enough money to not needing to fire them. I'd take a talented freshmen over them any day.

When your end product is so underwhelming like Starfield, touting the "20 years of experience" is not even a good look.

 

[SJRB]

Person responsible for something: "Yeah the thing I worked on is great. Best thing we ever made."

Videogame industry in a nutshell.

 

[Clintizzle]

Thank you Bethesda of old. Good bye new Bethesda.

 

[Silver Wattle]

Bethesda Devs no longer place value in the story or dialogue.

Even looking at the starfield Reddit and see they are ripping this DLC to shreds.

 

[diffusionx]

the praise is universal and growing

Xbox era told me it was good....

 

[Interfectum]

The majority of this generation of Western Devs are fucking delusional because of Toxic Positivity and other shit.

We really need an entire industry reset. A hard reset.

Well that’s kind of happening now.

 

[Bulletzen72]

I genuinely fell asleep playing this game. Not on a comfy couch on a console with a TV, but on a PC chair with mouse and keyboard. It is dull. The game world is dull. The writing is dull. The game engine is dull. Awful game. Not because it is necessarily bad but it is just dull. It's mediocre. Boring.