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ES6 is so cooked.

That's what I'm afraid of. At least it's unlikely to be a disconnected world like starfield but I'm sure they will ruin it in other ways

 

[Ben87fr]

Yes Emil you're the best writer at Bethesda, good boy good boy !

 

[LordCBH]

Best? Over Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, and Fallout 3?!

 

[ZehDon]

Hey look, I like Starfield plenty, but it's in no way BGS' best game. I'm playing Oblivion and Fallout 3 on my Steam Deck, and both of those games are just that much more engaging across the board despite being two generations removed.

Starfield's biggest issue for me is that they got rid of their engagement loop of "Going to do A, but I bumped into B, then I accidentally found C, and then I got interrupted when I saw D". Starfield requires a very direct player who deliberately makes their own fun. When you head off to do A, the game doesn't get in your way - no B, C or D. For some folks, that's clearly a show stopper. I don't mind it much frankly, but it's unquestionably less engaging than Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim, or even Fallout 4.

 

[VolticArchangel]

To just jam into an Xbox the biggest, richest space simulation RPG anyone could imagine.

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[dispensergoinup]

I dunno man, I played it for 60 hours when it released and just kinda lost interest. Really hated the empty planets.

Other BGS games usually pull me in for like 200+ hours. Maybe I'm just old lol.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

This dude agrees.

 

[Kacho]

I dunno man, I played it for 60 hours when it released and just kinda lost interest. Really hated the empty planets.

Other BGS games usually pull me in for like 200+ hours. Maybe I'm just old lol.

I had the same experience as you. Hit a wall after 60ish hours and dropped it. I can still play older BGS games for 100+ hours, but Starfield? Nah...

 

[Lukin1978]

I have zero hope for elder scrolls 6 when it comes out in 2035

 

[Laptop1991]

"Best game they have ever made", lol, Bethesda live in a totally different universe to their fans and former fans nowadays, they might not have any fans in god knows how many years it takes to release TES6 at this rate, lol, he must be trolling us at this point now, Emil has lost the plot lol.

 

[Minsc]

I have zero hope for elder scrolls 6 when it comes out in 2035

At least for them, hope and sales are opposite sides of the coin.

 

[Fess]

The ship building/combat was genuinely cool. Trying to disable enemy ships, then board/loot them and either hijack the ship or blow it to pieces, was really cool.

Base building also seemed pretty interesting and in depth, like there’s a lot of cool stuff you could do, although I didn’t even experiment with that in my first play through.

For better or worse Starfield felt like a middle-of-the-road Bethesda RPG but with a new setting and a couple fun new gameplay systems to experiment with.

What I’d really like is some better writing/characters and more impactful choices. That would’ve taken Starfield from like a 7/10 to a 10/10 for me.

For me it’s a mix of Fallout and No Man’s Sky and.

And the ship building and outpost building mechanics are both fantastic. Especially ship building.

I genuinely love some things, many things, but I also get frustrated by how they miss the target completely on some things.
But they’ve improved it a lot since the release and they seem satisfied enough at the reception to keep working on it. That’s good news for me!

Space adventures and sci-fi of all kind has always been my favorite ingredient for games. Some of my favorites; Elite, Starglider 2, Space Quest, Super Metroid, Mass Effect, No Man’s Sky, etc, and now Starfield.

Dream updates:

Flying vehicles, can’t drive a car in a jungle and it takes forever to walk.
Jepack builder, dismantle other packs to get the perks and then build your own with the perks you want.
More cities, can’t have a whole galaxy with like 10 cities, at minimum they should add a new one every year.
Hand-crafted dungeons with preset epic loot. Similar to the Mantis lair, needs to be more of that.
Turn your outpost into a settlement. Invite regular npcs to your outpost when it’s big enough, let them set up shop and do their thing when some key requirements for the outpost are met.
Better trading. Galactic trading boards with resources specific traders on specific planets want to buy for high amount of money. The trading economy and crafting mechanics should be greatly updated so you could live as a space trader.

 

[CuckMeister]

I mean its pretty hard to make a worse version of Fallout 3 which was released almost 17 years ago, so congrats losers.

 

[TheChumpNation]

I don't think I've ever heard this man make a relatable or even sensible statement

 

[T-0800]

These ladies are dead and they came back to life just to laugh at him.

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

the praise is universal and growing

Great video. Reviewer comes off sincere and distraught.

There was a time where after blazing a lot of trails in open world gaming, Bethesda looked stagnant as they refused to address any of their weaknesses while other developers took on open worlds and ran circles around them. But nowadays it no longer feels like they refuse to change, it feels like they're actually getting worse.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Great video. Reviewer comes off sincere and distraught.

There was a time where after blazing a lot of trails in open world gaming, Bethesda looked stagnant as they refused to address any of their weaknesses while other developers took on open worlds and ran circles around them. But nowadays it no longer feels like they refuse to change, it feels like they're actually getting worse.

yep. reviewers just offer a surface level criticism, while these type of content creators are usually the ones that make indepth analysis.

this shit happened with Starfield already (2-3 weeks after release) . fortunately this time Bethesda/Xbox didn't do "slimy platform things" and let/give up/didn't have the budget to try to crate a positive and fake narrative around the game.

i dunno if there is enough fanboy drama online around the critical reception.... But it's in the low 50s....that is a score that kills AAA studios.

 

[VolticArchangel]

 

[sono]

 

[BigLee74]

Starfield was very good. Certainly the most ambitious game they’ve done.

But Skyrim was better.

And Fallout 3 (my first Bethesda biggie) was better still. Although its main story was even worse. I remember something about water.

 

[BigLee74]

Hey look, I like Starfield plenty, but it's in no way BGS' best game. I'm playing Oblivion and Fallout 3 on my Steam Deck, and both of those games are just that much more engaging across the board despite being two generations removed.

Starfield's biggest issue for me is that they got rid of their engagement loop of "Going to do A, but I bumped into B, then I accidentally found C, and then I got interrupted when I saw D". Starfield requires a very direct player who deliberately makes their own fun. When you head off to do A, the game doesn't get in your way - no B, C or D. For some folks, that's clearly a show stopper. I don't mind it much frankly, but it's unquestionably less engaging than Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim, or even Fallout 4.

That’s not quite true. I had a few of instances where I was doing a quest for A, and got side tracked by B, then C etc. Especially if you’re in the cities.

It’s just less likely to happen anywhere else due to the fragmented playing area.

But yes, considerably worse in that regard.

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

 

[ZehDon]

That’s not quite true. I had a few of instances where I was doing a quest for A, and got side tracked by B, then C etc. Especially if you’re in the cities.

It’s just less likely to happen due anywhere else due to the fragmented playing area.

But yes, considerably worse in that regard.

That's fair. I can't recall that happening to me, to be honest. But I did spend a lot of time exploring - which was just me talking to a POI, completing POI, and then picking the next POI to walk towards.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

For me it’s a mix of Fallout and No Man’s Sky and.

And the ship building and outpost building mechanics are both fantastic. Especially ship building.

I genuinely love some things, many things, but I also get frustrated by how they miss the target completely on some things.
But they’ve improved it a lot since the release and they seem satisfied enough at the reception to keep working on it. That’s good news for me!

Space adventures and sci-fi of all kind has always been my favorite ingredient for games. Some of my favorites; Elite, Starglider 2, Space Quest, Super Metroid, Mass Effect, No Man’s Sky, etc, and now Starfield.

Dream updates:

Flying vehicles, can’t drive a car in a jungle and it takes forever to walk.
Jepack builder, dismantle other packs to get the perks and then build your own with the perks you want.
More cities, can’t have a whole galaxy with like 10 cities, at minimum they should add a new one every year.
Hand-crafted dungeons with preset epic loot. Similar to the Mantis lair, needs to be more of that.
Turn your outpost into a settlement. Invite regular npcs to your outpost when it’s big enough, let them set up shop and do their thing when some key requirements for the outpost are met.
Better trading. Galactic trading boards with resources specific traders on specific planets want to buy for high amount of money. The trading economy and crafting mechanics should be greatly updated so you could live as a space trader.

This is my problem with Bethesda: they turned their games from RPG into Minecraft.

 

[Da1337Vinci]

Thinking now more about what Emil said it seems like he is not mentioning any design decisions that elevate starfield to be the best of bethesda.

I can see the technical side he mentioned that indeed compare to their own games starfield show improvements in that regard.

Nonetheless If he or anyone in bethesda can't see the difference between starfield and their other franchises in appeal/freedom.

It is looking grim for the upcoming Fallout and Elder Scrolls games.

 

[MMaRsu]

I mean its pretty hard to make a worse version of Fallout 3 which was released almost 17 years ago, so congrats losers.

Is it? They already made a worse version of Fallout 3 with Fallout 4.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

And Concord was viewed as the "future of Playstation".

Keyword: was. They accepted their L.

Starfield, while not a bad game by any means, is still being heiled as some for of game changer. That’s why it is mocked like this.

 

[genesisblock]

This statement is actually terrifying because it speaks to how they operate in their studio. We really are are going to dread when TES: VI arrives if he thinks Starfield was the "best" they could do.

 

[Rambotito]

Yes Emil you're the best writer at Bethesda, good boy good boy !

Press E
Hi Starborn!
Now let me tell you about my life history, 1 sentence at a time and with 3-second pauses between each line. Oh, and the outcome is the same no matter what.
Just like an NPC in Starfield.

 

[Wildebeest]

All opinions are equal, but Todd Howard's opinions are a million times more equal than anyone else.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

The sad thing about this, coupled with Concord and Ubisoft blaming gamers for poor sales of Outlaws, is that apparently "toxic positivity" is a thing. Like, there is no way he can say with a straight face this is the best thing a company did, there is no alternate universe where Starfield is better than Morrowind.

 

[Last Hearth]

Would have been a hell of a lot better had they included the vehicle day one. I might have actually wanted to explore. But having to literally run for 5 to 10 minutes just to get to main quest objective sapped away whatever desire I had for exploring. So many things in this game were close to being great. If the game had been released today, I think reception would have been a lot better.

That's not the only problem, the problem is what you discover out there is also boring, it's always some abandoned location with a few pirates or something. I lost interest in exploring because there was never anything interesting that I found.
The exploration in FO and Skyrim you would encounter random settlements, towns, etc. You couldn't do that in SF, by design, that's why the exploration game loop doesn't work in SF.

 

[StereoVsn]

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We just need a caption “And then he said it was our Best Game Yet@…

 

[Roni]

To state this when No Man's Sky exists is pretty disingenuous. He specifically said "space simulation".

 

[vaibhavpisal]

To state this when No Man's Sky exists is pretty disingenuous. He specifically said "space simulation".

No Mans Sky creates all planets in a circle around the sun. Same orbit.

 

[Fess]

This is my problem with Bethesda: they turned their games from RPG into Minecraft.

You mean the crafting and building mechanics?

For me they’ve just iterated on their previous building mechanics, like building the mansion in Skyrim, and made that mechanic more complex and open.

But it’s all optional, some don’t do any of that.

You still have the same RPG quests as in their previous games.

The big differences in Starfield is the size of the world and how they generate the map and fill it with dungeons and loot. It’s very much like No Man’s Sky in world structure but you have distinct biomes and it’s chopped up in squares. Then there is roleplaying and factions and cities. And the gun combat feels great.
Melee is still typical Bethesda melee combat. I play as a space samurai now, I just rush up to anyone and starts slashing, maxed out skills for melee. Very powerful build tbh, but it’s awful for bigger aliens like terrormorphs. Did a quest which ended with two terrormorphs, after a couple quick deaths I swapped to something with more ranged fire power.

 

[TheChumpNation]

This is my problem with Bethesda: they turned their games from RPG into Minecraft.

Nail on the head. Everything has declined except the house/base/colony building stuff.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It's so cheesy when video game employees always have to plug their games as best ever, best graphics, best AI, etc.... How often do you see people in other industries do this?

We get it. The game is shit half the time, but you still got to promote it for sales and ego boosts. Relax.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

You mean the crafting and building mechanics?

For me they’ve just iterated on their previous building mechanics, like building the mansion in Skyrim, and made that mechanic more complex and open.

But it’s all optional, some don’t do any of that.

You still have the same RPG quests as in their previous games.

The big differences in Starfield is the size of the world and how they generate the map and fill it with dungeons and loot. It’s very much like No Man’s Sky in world structure but you have distinct biomes and it’s chopped up in squares. Then there is roleplaying and factions and cities. And the gun combat feels great.
Melee is still typical Bethesda melee combat. I play as a space samurai now, I just rush up to anyone and starts slashing, maxed out skills for melee. Very powerful build tbh, but it’s awful for bigger aliens like terrormorphs. Did a quest which ended with two terrormorphs, after a couple quick deaths I swapped to something with more ranged fire power.

I think they spend too many resources on that crafting stuff. What I want out of a single player RPG is a good story and fascinating world building.

 

[Roni]

No Mans Sky creates all planets in a circle around the sun. Same orbit.

Clutching to a detail like that when you can walk around an entire planet and No Man's Sky has the update history it has is bold. Hope that turns out well for you.

 

[BigLee74]

It's so cheesy when video game employees always have to plug their games as best ever, best graphics, best AI, etc.... How often do you see people in other industries do this?

We get it. The game is shit half the time, but you still got to promote it for sales and ego boosts. Relax.

You serious?

All the time. Every person. Every industry!

 

[Fess]

I think they spend too many resources on that crafting stuff. What I want out of a single player RPG is a good story and fascinating world building.

I agree on the world building, it’s important, but I like that they added something different that makes me keep playing it after the story has been told. And I like No Man’s Sky so for me it was the perfect addition. But I understand that it’s not for everyone.

Could have more cities and roleplaying quests coming from that. And more Mantis quests, that was awesome, should make more quests from loot like that. The drifting old earth ship was a great idea too, but clearly rushed. It’s a massive game, they should have a team that do nothing but build new quests and assets and then they could add that through updates to make the updates more interesting. Modders do a lot but not enough.

 

[Danny22]

Could this game not have a bright future if generative AI keeps getting better rapidly?

 

[Barakov]

Starfield design director Emil Pagliarulo knows the sci-fi RPG isn't "everyone's cup of tea", but he still reckons it's one of Bethesda's most ambitious projects as well as its best in a lot of ways.





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I like Starfield just fine but