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BEYOND: Two Souls (Ellen Page, Willem Dafoe) |OT| Press Triangle to Aiden
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Yup! I was surprised too.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Might have to pick up standard edition soon then.
So far all this game has done for me is make me really want a sequel to Geist.
Character animations can be pretty robotic sometimes with dead fluidity which is a big contrast to the facial details and animations (which are still not as good as TLOU). However, the facial skin of the characters is pretty second to none.
QTEs, if you want to designate them as that, seem fewer and far between than HR and IP. They're 10x simpler as well. It's definitely the least interactive Quantic Dream movie to date.
All in all so far it's a 7. Looks and sounds nice, but its typical Cage fluff and melodrama.
Also Dafoes acting is no stretch whatsoever. They could've used anyone for this role. Page is just being Page. I don't see why anyone would be floored by her performance.
Character animations can be pretty robotic sometimes with dead fluidity which is a big contrast to the facial details and animations (which are still not as good as TLOU). However, the facial skin of the characters is pretty second to none.
QTEs, if you want to designate them as that, seem fewer and far between than HR and IP. They're 10x simpler as well. It's definitely the least interactive Quantic Dream movie to date.
All in all so far it's a 7. Looks and sounds nice, but its typical Cage fluff and melodrama.
Also Dafoes acting is no stretch whatsoever. They could've used anyone for this role. Page is just being Page. I don't see why anyone would be floored by her performance.
dragonbane
Member
You are pretty much done. Better just finish now and see the cool ending.
You can use any combination of devices.
Don't worry, he has his 10 seconds in the game. Reason enough to hire him. I think Page's performance is just amazing, how she moves differently at each age, changes her voice slightly and the delivery and expressions are dead on. Amazing achievement in terms of mo-cap acting. I think from all the films I watched with her this is her best performance yet.
Her acting alone made me tear up at least 2 times, so yeah I was sold by her performance.
amazing. Do you know if you can switch devices throughout the game? ie. playing as Jodie with DS3 in the beginning, then next session using a phone to control her?
Finished it this morning. Pretty awesome experience with some fun missions. Ellen Page was amazing in it. Great acting all around. I really cared about Jodie a lot during the game.
Man, the graphics were gorgeous. Several parts made my jaw drop. Thought it was FMV or prerendered CGI until I was playing it. They managed to squeeze a lot out of the PS3. Can't imagine what their PS4 games will look like without old tech.
Also big shout out to the sound dept. The surround is awesome and the ambient noises made even the quiet scenes very atmospheric.
Only encountered one freeze and there are some performance issues but nothing too bad. I can feel the PS3 working hard when the game was on.
Man, the graphics were gorgeous. Several parts made my jaw drop. Thought it was FMV or prerendered CGI until I was playing it. They managed to squeeze a lot out of the PS3. Can't imagine what their PS4 games will look like without old tech.
Also big shout out to the sound dept. The surround is awesome and the ambient noises made even the quiet scenes very atmospheric.
Only encountered one freeze and there are some performance issues but nothing too bad. I can feel the PS3 working hard when the game was on.
As I said, in the beginning this way of presenting the story is a bit weird, but when you advance some chapters you can really start to connect the events in your head and it feels nice. Don't judge the book by it's cover, give it some time and soon you can shake off that feeling of "why am I doing this in this chapter? context please".
If after playing chapters like Homeless or The Mission, the people keeps complaining about the game because of the controls or the way the story is shown, it must be because they don't have blood in their veins... :/
By the way, am I the only one who remembered MGS4 during The Mission? The environment, the stealth action... also the animations remind me a lot to the MGS5 demos. As I read before, I though that the gameplay mechanics and controls would be a let down for that chapter, but it felt surprisingly nice.
dragonbane
Member
Yeah, you just have to quit to the main menu in order to change it. But the game autosaves a lot, so it should be fine.
People are confused with the story? it's brain-dead simple. They explain everything. The way they present the story timeframes out of order made it much more interesting than if they did it normal. I thought it was great. It's the lil moments between Jodie and others that made it shine for me.
Also, didn't have any issues with whatever missions they gave me. People complaining are probably fighting the controls instead of going along with how they were introduced.
Exactly that's my point. I guess those people talk about the first hour of the game. I don't understand why anyone would judge a title of 10-12 hours, which is story heavy, just for the first contact. If they keep complaining it after more hours... as you said, the story is simple and presented in a cool and innovator way, what's the problem to not be able to follow it?
If it is story heavy, what is the story? I am not trying to be arsey here, just trying to spark the idea of a stronger plot would have worked better. There is no Links in each scene to another scene, If this happens all at the very end of the game then thats good...I guess?? I mean. I could tell you the plot of heavy rain in a sentence.
This I have no idea apart from girl has ghost powers and you do scenes ranging from every day life to action. I will come back when I have finished it, I'm sure it could make sense, I would just like something to grip me, something I can follow as a driving plot point.
There must be a focus?? It cant be just her life. Like random sections. What is the driving motivator. What is the point??
The game is beautiful and I am feeling an array of emotions from scene to scene, but it feels like a tech demo so far.
dragonbane
Member
People want a stronger main narrative tying everything together apparently. It really comes down to taste if you appreciate playing vignettes of a life for 8 hours or not.
There is a story yes. It is actually well done IMO, but the focus of the game clearly lies on Jodie. The point is indeed to play her life. Jodie = Story. If you don't enjoy Jodie, you probably won't enjoy the game. This was pretty much said when the game was announced, that the story is mostly about playing a life.
OH SNAP!
It's also terrible, if that helps your decision.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
What is? The puzzle levels in the SE?
there's a level later with models that look unbelievably amazing. looked next-gen.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Just finished it.
Great experience overall, the game really comes together in the second half.
I got one of the better endings I believe ->
I'm quite conflicted, if I were to score it. I really love Jodie and the dramatic attention to detail and animation/music and general presentation is pretty much unmatched in the industry, but the actual game design and linearity is a huge fault.
The game felt considerably more restrictive than Heavy Rain did, I feel like Cage has gone backwards in this regard. Most of the chapter design is incredibly lazy and serves only to move the plot forward, such as having all exploration pretty much walking in a straight line to the next point of interest, and the 'free' movement of Aiden actually being extremely limited to the immediate area (some times the same room as Jodie.)
At times it really did feel like I was just moving from one set piece to another, and I hate when games do that (I'm looking at you, Uncharted)
But then, reverting back to my first comments, the game is a pretty amazing thing to experience, not for the gameplay, but for all of those crazy set pieces and locales and the great acting. I think given that there is apparently replayability in different endings, and yes, albeit pretty slim, but there is a few things to do in each chapter if you have the patience to replay them, then I'd say it was worth buying.
My rating right now is probably a 7/10, and will probably go up once I see some different endings. I should praise Cage for what he set out to do though, emotionally it dwarfs Heavy Rain, and I really connected with Jodie more than pretty much any videogame character - largely thanks to Page's acting.
Still day one for whatever QD does next, I just hope they find a way to balance cinematic and non-linear.
Great experience overall, the game really comes together in the second half.
I got one of the better endings I believe ->
'I'm still here' written in the sand
The game felt considerably more restrictive than Heavy Rain did, I feel like Cage has gone backwards in this regard. Most of the chapter design is incredibly lazy and serves only to move the plot forward, such as having all exploration pretty much walking in a straight line to the next point of interest, and the 'free' movement of Aiden actually being extremely limited to the immediate area (some times the same room as Jodie.)
At times it really did feel like I was just moving from one set piece to another, and I hate when games do that (I'm looking at you, Uncharted)
But then, reverting back to my first comments, the game is a pretty amazing thing to experience, not for the gameplay, but for all of those crazy set pieces and locales and the great acting. I think given that there is apparently replayability in different endings, and yes, albeit pretty slim, but there is a few things to do in each chapter if you have the patience to replay them, then I'd say it was worth buying.
My rating right now is probably a 7/10, and will probably go up once I see some different endings. I should praise Cage for what he set out to do though, emotionally it dwarfs Heavy Rain, and I really connected with Jodie more than pretty much any videogame character - largely thanks to Page's acting.
Still day one for whatever QD does next, I just hope they find a way to balance cinematic and non-linear.
something tells me they'll be able to really improve their gameplay and level designs in next-gen. can't believe what they were able to do on the PS3.
Yea I was disappointed. The "30 minute" scene only took me 12 mins too.
lunchtoast
Member
The ending is some
straight up Ghostbusters.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Navajo
it was a very cool story. felt self-contained.
BlazingDarkness
Member
I'm a big fan of 'The Dinner' as well.
Some people said it was goofy, and it kinda was, but Page's acting totally made it, and I think the scene was very much needed in an otherwise relentlessly depressing game.
Some people said it was goofy, and it kinda was, but Page's acting totally made it, and I think the scene was very much needed in an otherwise relentlessly depressing game.
I told myself that I would play the game with Jodie being a good person and Aiden being a complete prick and evil to everyone except when it came to Jodie's life. I felt like a dick during that chapter
It's Super Heavy Rainy.
I love just walking around and picking up garbage and doing small things. And the juxtaposition between the previous scene-- where the player is shown that Ryan is a dickbag-- and the way you get control as Aiden in the next scene is really very smart.
Cage should make a game purely about like flipping houses.
I told myself that I would play the game with Jodie being a good person and Aiden being a complete prick and evil to everyone except when it came to Jodie's life. I felt like a dick during that chapter
Dick. Aiden should let Jodie have a good time. But he should make sure she
uses protection
Heh, I could have appreciated a little scene where you have to smack open one of the drawers and then
toss one of the condoms at them
petethepanda
Member
Really wasn't enjoying the game at first, but it starts to hit its stride midway through. The last few chapters I've played have been pretty great. The story still hasn't come together into something compelling (super-nonlinear was a stupid and arbitrary decision for this particular story), but it's put together some great individual scenes. Pretty sure I'm getting close to the end now.
QD is really onto something, they just need to hire a decent writer someday.
QD is really onto something, they just need to hire a decent writer someday.
lunchtoast
Member
Really enjoyed admiring the interior design of this game.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Thinking about it, I'd probably change my score up to an 8.
I think the last few parts of the game are too good for anything lower, and there are just lots of memorable parts of the story for me.
So frustrating though, the game could have been up there with the best of the generation if it were just less linear. Story-wise though, it's up there.
I think the last few parts of the game are too good for anything lower, and there are just lots of memorable parts of the story for me.
So frustrating though, the game could have been up there with the best of the generation if it were just less linear. Story-wise though, it's up there.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
It has an impressive sense of energy and movement. The controller mechanics are taught in the flow of quick, interesting things task, and then here's your training mission, done. It's a well directed montage of activites.
I'm gonna assume he's already watched her shower, take a shit, and masturbate.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Endgame spoilers;
is there any reason to assume that Aiden knows he is Jodie's twin? I'd guess he never knew, even at the end
petethepanda
Member
Close to the end? Chapter called
. Funny thing I thought upon meeting a certain character just now, guess it's best to just label this whole-game spoilers.
Old Friends
"Jodie, great to see you again. Disregard the fact that I've been wearing white the whole game and I'm now wearing black."
BlazingDarkness
Member
Not too far off
cormack12
Gold Member
Is anyone having any technical issues with this game? Examples:
[Platform: 12GB Super Slim PS3]
On a lot of cinematic clips every now and again I get a half second stutter
The drive is constantly spinning (might just hear it because it's a super slim though)
Some scenes instead of skipping seem to judder and miss out a half second of speech/video
It's really starting to annoy though. The console is fine itself, almost new and other games all run perfectly. This is the steelbook EU edition if it makes a difference.
[Platform: 12GB Super Slim PS3]
On a lot of cinematic clips every now and again I get a half second stutter
The drive is constantly spinning (might just hear it because it's a super slim though)
Some scenes instead of skipping seem to judder and miss out a half second of speech/video
It's really starting to annoy though. The console is fine itself, almost new and other games all run perfectly. This is the steelbook EU edition if it makes a difference.
i really liked the ham and cheese in this game. i think some people hate it but hell, i'm tired of games trying to be witty and ironic these days.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Very rarely I had a slight stutter of like a second or so.
My drive on the super slim was ridiculously loud for most of the game, had to turn up the volume it was so annoying.
Figured the game is just pushing the system a whole lot.