Velcro Fly
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Caleb saying DR told him if him and frankie make final 2 it will be the best final 2 in history?
are you kidding me with this fucking shit
are you kidding me with this fucking shit
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DR saying that is such bullshit if they did, and Caleb thinking it would be greatness is more bullshit as they're both awful
Ugh
Ugh
blackaroni
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So no more talk of getting Frankie out???
I really hope Caleb is lying, but after Julie called Zankie the best showmance ever....who knows!
I really hope Caleb is lying, but after Julie called Zankie the best showmance ever....who knows!
I actually face palmed when she said that on the live show, if the DR gets involved to keep Frankie here then this show will have hit a new low. That piece of shit needs to get the boot sooner than later.
UberTag
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I hope the DR continues to rig as many things in Frankie's favor as possible.
I want this waste of a human being to win. It's what this season and the BB franchise ultimately deserves.
We need the most tainted reality show victory of all-time here.
Derrick will make a much more compelling martyr than he will a winner.
I want this waste of a human being to win. It's what this season and the BB franchise ultimately deserves.
We need the most tainted reality show victory of all-time here.
Derrick will make a much more compelling martyr than he will a winner.
UberTag
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Getting Frankie the win once he's at Final 2 is the easy part.
Just offer certain folks on the jury extra money to vote for him to win.
If they come clean that they were bribed, they forfeit their entire stipend.
Easy peasy to get that enforced with the right lawyers and signatures.
Don't think they go that far, that's going into tin foil hat territory.
UberTag
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Why NOT go that far when they've gone as far as they have already?
Are they somehow exonerated in their ethics of rigging comps in his favor, gifting Frankie free Team America money and protection, DR and jury influence, the "I'm playing for charity" horseshit, his golden edit and his assorted other perks (extra letters from home, Internet access in the DR, extra blankets while a Have-Not) by playing the "it wouldn't be fair" card when it comes down to the vote?
This isn't a game show. It's scripted entertainment and everything about this season has been scripted around being a marketing platform for the Grande family.
Stuggernaut
Grandma's Chippy
When did all that happen?
The TV edit has definitely switched from Frankie being the fun hero to showing what a dick he is. Does production want a villain victory? Or are they conceding that it's unlikely he'll win?
BlackNMild2k1
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NYR
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On the block.
Didn't watch last night, what did they show?
Scofield94941
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Its funny how Caleb was the only one called to the diary room last night after almost being sure he was putting frankie up. Production doesnt even try to hide rigging the show anymore. Such a fucking joke.
BlackNMild2k1
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Been a joke since S8. Original EP actually gave a shit. Grodner does not.
So Caleb went against the plan...
Oh I hope Nicole wins HoH next.
Frankie and Caleb on the block.
Is there Veto on 2nd eviction on DE nights?
She'll be evicted. Can't win HOH.
BlackNMild2k1
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Why would Christine nominate Frankie? He's the closest thing to an ally she'll have left in that house.
BlackNMild2k1
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Because Derrick will convince her otherwise.
It's amusing how any of these guys refuse to take the first shot at one of the big guys so late in the game while they have a golden chance. How Frankie has survived the melt down the house had on him when he was outed for throwing all the guys under the bus is beyond me.
BlackNMild2k1
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Probably doesn't care as much because he knows he'll beat him if he makes final 2, no way Frankie beats Derrick in a final 2. Probably also thinks that if it gets to Cody / Derrick / Caleb / Frankie, Frankie is instantly the #1 target.
Scofield94941
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God, Derricks line to Caleb last night about getting Frankie out was .. " its too early" WUUUUUUUUUUT It is September bro. It reminds me of Helen saying 2 weeks in a row that it was too early to get rid of Amanda, then Amanda got rid of Helen.
Can someone tell me what Derrick will say in the Final 2 speech to win? If he is up against a bomb squad member what can he say? They will say all the moves they made were together. Every move that derrck made, Caleb was almost always the first to initiate it.
To us Derrick is playing a great game all around, to the housemates, he is just in a big alliance where he helps them decide things TOGETHER.
Can someone tell me what Derrick will say in the Final 2 speech to win? If he is up against a bomb squad member what can he say? They will say all the moves they made were together. Every move that derrck made, Caleb was almost always the first to initiate it.
To us Derrick is playing a great game all around, to the housemates, he is just in a big alliance where he helps them decide things TOGETHER.
It would be pretty easy for him to point out how he's manipulated almost every move in the game, while staying in the good graces of every player. He's played an impeccable social game, and had to get no blood on his hands at all. Even from their point of view they've recognized no on will beat him, Frankie and someone else said so on the show.
What will he say in the finals? 'Im an undercover cop and i got all your trust'
Velcro Fly
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if that is the thought process he's so far beyond these other people in the house it's like they are playing a different game
SlowRevolution
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not even close
Velcro Fly
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at least the amazing racists from last season had some base knowledge of how the game worked. you had quite a few strong female players that won and played ok. this season's female contestants are a floater, someone so worthless they keep her around to lose at challenges, and someone who is about to get evicted again.
Deadly Joker
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Overall, the worst season for me was BB9. I watched the first week and turned it off after that. That was the only season I haven't watched. After that, I'd say last year with Aaryn, Helen, GM, Andy, Mcrae, etc., rank slighly above BB9. It was god awful.
*barfs*
And we all know how the winner of BB9 turned out...
Officerrob
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BB9 gets a lot of hate (some of it deserved) but the feeds were fantastic, a true train wreck
Skiptastic
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If he is thinking this way, it's no wonder that he is going for the dollars at every opportunity. He needs to get his while he can because Production will fight him getting to the $500K.
Still hope he can figure a way to get Frankie out with Production powerless to stop it. Double Eviction might be the best shot. Things happening too fast for them to do much influencing. Just makes this next HoH (while super short) extremely important.
UberTag
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Double eviction is definitely the time to make that move. Just as it was when Shelly made her play to send Jeff packing in BB13 despite swerving Production that she would do otherwise. Especially with Frankie's most loyal soldier in Caleb ineligible to play for HOH.
Derrick essentially has Cody and Victoria on lock so either of them winning HOH would be ideal because he would also have a vote of his own to maneuver in the direction he wants without needing to expose his hand prior to the vote. You only need 2 votes to evict someone on Thursday and the HOH does not have tiebreaker control.
That math should tell you that Derrick is in good shape himself provided that two of Cody, Victoria and himself aren't on the block post-POV.
Should Production be hoping to game the Double Eviction to pull out their final rig and remove Derrick from the equation, it's tough to decide which scenario is worse between Christine and Frankie winning.
Frankie has more loyalty to Derrick and Christine has her Cody obsession but whether that dynamic is more fruitful for an anti-Derrick pitch as a voter or as an HOH to get him on the block is hard to say.
If Christine wins HOH, she would likely nominate Caleb & Victoria initially. Caleb winning POV would set up a nightmare scenario for Derrick as he could get nominated and sent packing if Frankie-Caleb get urged towards their Final 2 deal.
If Frankie wins HOH, he would likely nominate Cody & Victoria initially... although Derrick might be able to talk him into Cody & Christine. In that instance, Christine winning POV would set up the same doomsday scenario and the vote might be even easier to rig as Christine would not vote out Cody whereas in the first scenario it may be dicier.
Either way it's hard to imagine anyone wanting to waste a Double Eviction reign on Victoria.
Skiptastic
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I don't watch the live feeds so anything I see comes from reading this thread or watching the edited shows, but would Christine help Frankie? It seemed pretty obvious in the edit that Frankie gave her shit for "supporting" Nicole, and then suddenly she's on the block next to Nicole, when there is someone not in the Detonators who could be on the block instead of her. It wouldn't take an idiot to put two and two together that Frankie pushed for her to be on the block with Nicole.
Cody should be putting that bug in her ear this week in preparation for the double elimination.
I appreciate that break down of possibilities and why the DE is the time to strike and crush Frankie, Uber. I know all of you are hating this season, but it's the first time I'm really watching it from start to finish, and the parts that keep me watching are strategy based.
UberTag
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It's not so much Christine helping Frankie (everyone is a Derrick puppet so long as he has time to work) as much as Christine helping herself. Whether she wound up on the block or not last week pre-veto Frankie wasn't the one who made those noms. Caleb did. A Derrick elimination is in Christine's best interests because it removes the one obstacle that prevents Cody from being completely loyal to her.
BenjaminBirdie
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As boring and wack as this season has been, if Derrick actually doesn't end up winning because of productch, it would be truly horrifyingly offensive.
Eh, his family is rich already and his sister could still do that. I'd rather see the money go towards the average American family that is not inherently wealthy.
It's very annoying that production is assisting Frankie. I wouldn't be shocked if there are contracts in place for his survival in the show.
Indeed. It was perfect time to get Frankie out, but I am sure there was some DR manipulation.
A previous poster quoted Caleb as saying the DR told him he and Frankie would be the best final 2 ever. He was the only one called after it became well known that the plan was to put Frankie out. Then he puts up Victoria.
I say its definitely happening.
Oh wow really...that is such crap. Frankie is already wealthy.
Man, all this stupid DR manipulation.
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