BioShock 2 |OT| of Big Sisters, Delta Daddies, and Creepy Uncles
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My favorite parts about the game, the small stuff. Pretty big spoilers.
Anyone else have cool little stuff like that?
- The unstable teleportation plasmid mini puzzle. Great stuff.
- Conclusion to the viral marketing story. I looted corpse and was like 'NOOOOO'.
- Parts of the plane from the first game scattered around the seabed.
- Conclusion to the viral marketing story. I looted corpse and was like 'NOOOOO'.
- Parts of the plane from the first game scattered around the seabed.
Anyone else have cool little stuff like that?
AgentOtaku
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can't unsee...
Monkeylord
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I should be picking this up soon, and have been purposely staying away from as much info and media as I can, but one question I still have that I can't recall seeing being asked or answered anywhere is this:
Does it still feel like you're a midget, like in Bioshock 1?
Does it still feel like you're a midget, like in Bioshock 1?
Monkeylord
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Ridley327 said:
Well, the whole of Bioshock 1 you felt like you were crouching all the time.
Enjoying the game still, but there were seriously a lot of missed opportunities here. I'm just surprised that it ended up as it did. I expected a lot more out of a game led by Jordon Thomas, to be honest. It's solid enough, but it doesn't really try anything special.
The idea of returning to Rapture well after its fall is full of potential and none of it was put to use.
With so many studios involved, I'm wondering if the game even received the full attention it deserved. If Levine has a lot of the Boston staff tied up in his next game, Thomas may not have had the same resources available. I'd imagine tons of stuff was outsourced and, ultimately, that probably made it more difficult to deliver something unique. His previous works in Thief III and Bioshock were almost like pet projects, as I understand it. Pulling off something like that across a whole game when half your team is scattered around the globe would definitely be difficult.
The idea of returning to Rapture well after its fall is full of potential and none of it was put to use.
With so many studios involved, I'm wondering if the game even received the full attention it deserved. If Levine has a lot of the Boston staff tied up in his next game, Thomas may not have had the same resources available. I'd imagine tons of stuff was outsourced and, ultimately, that probably made it more difficult to deliver something unique. His previous works in Thief III and Bioshock were almost like pet projects, as I understand it. Pulling off something like that across a whole game when half your team is scattered around the globe would definitely be difficult.
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Deleted member 30609
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I keep flip-flopping on this game. I go from really, really liking it to being really down on it.
In any case, Tom Chick has some really good write-ups on it. I recommend checking them out.
- The fantastic and poignant Bioshock 2 is no mere Rapture redux
- A short helpful guide for suriving Rapture in Bioshock 2
- 10 separate times I fell in love with Bioshock 2
In any case, Tom Chick has some really good write-ups on it. I recommend checking them out.
- The fantastic and poignant Bioshock 2 is no mere Rapture redux
- A short helpful guide for suriving Rapture in Bioshock 2
- 10 separate times I fell in love with Bioshock 2
Blindfutur3
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Truant said:
From what I gathered,
he's mentioned as the diver that found Rapture. I forget if his name is mentioned
E: Checking it against the guide.
You are the diver who discovered Rapture. You weren't allowed to leave and tell the world of Rapture, so they used you in the Alpha series experiments
badcrumble
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Isn't it kind of implied that
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you're the big daddy who killed Suchong, since he was killed before the Big Daddy was finalized
JaseC said:
From what I can gather, it means you got the best footage possible from that enemy. The actual research track won't neccessarily level up since it's based on a cumulative total. You'll know you did during gameplay when the bonus shows up on screen; otherwise, you can go to the map screen and check to see your research progress across all enemy types.
Blindfutur3
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JaseC said:
The grade you receive during research just signifies the quality of your research and in-turn, how many points you receive.
If you want to view how far along you are in a certain 'track', you can do so in the start menu.
Truant said:
Seriously, all three of those hit me just as hard as they hit you.
The
Teleportation Plasmid puzzle was fun
the airplane bits on the seabed
Mark Meltzer
Loving this game SO SO much.
Also, does anyone else absolutely adore
Sinclair
did not want to kill him in the end after he was transformed into a Big Daddy by Lamb. Is there any way to avoid killing him?
Blindfutur3
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Truant said:
The guide makes no mention of it from what I can see. It would of been nice to have it more fleshed out though, and looking back, there's certainly questions that are sadly left unanswered.
bodyofanamerican
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ELEANUH!!
Someone please tell Sofia to pronounce her R's better. It started to irk me about half way through.
The Librarian
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Heh. I used the map a lot in BioShock 1 because I knew I wanted to explore every single place before I moved on. Not really understand the criticism of the level design. The only problem withTruant said:
Ryan Amusements
For those who have finished the game, how far were you along when you get to
Pauper's Drop
Wiggum2007
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I haven't played played Bioshock 1 in probably a year or two, should I refresh myself on all the little story details from the first game before I pick up 2?
The Librarian
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You could read a summary of the game and that'd probably get the job done.Wiggum2007 said:
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Back to what people are saying about the level design. How many of you recently played BioShock before you played BioShock 2? As in, about a month before release? I mean, I haven't finished the game (far from it), but so far, the level design is on par, at the very least, with the last third/half of the game. I felt that
Audonis
Also, I see the term "setpiece" being thrown around a lot in this thread and being used in several different ways, so it's getting me kind of confused. What are some examples of set pieces in the original BioShock?
Man I got one of those age-old music glitches last night during the third level. I had to listen to the "omg 50 Big Daddies are trying to sex you up" musical swell for like 1.5 hours. It drove me fucking crazy. The glitch was also part of the save files so there was no going back. It finally stopped once I got on the train loading screen.
Sooo... Like i said in my previous posts at first i liked the MP (PC Version), then i disliked it since people unlocked the launcher, but now at level 26 i found the sweet spot for my template (which doesn't rely on the damn launcher).
The first thing i had to do was the fix for the sensitivity like someone else said. Put your sens to 1 inthe options, then go to your Documents/Appdata and Bioshock 2 folder where you will find the MP user.ini. Here replace all the speed voices (but not the ones under
[Engine.Input]) to something lower, i use 900. You will notice a very slow mouse sens the first 5 or 6 seconds of the match, then it will be much better.
I use the Nail gun (unl. at rank 14) with the scope addon and the Tommy gun (unl. at rank 2), with the bees plasmid (it does over time damage and covers the enemies screen) and the fire plasmid. I can counter the launcher spammers most of the time and it's a fun setup
The gamemodes are really fun, especially the one where you have to hold the little sister for 3 minutes total. Still, they have to balance the granade launcher and some other stuff
The first thing i had to do was the fix for the sensitivity like someone else said. Put your sens to 1 inthe options, then go to your Documents/Appdata and Bioshock 2 folder where you will find the MP user.ini. Here replace all the speed voices (but not the ones under
[Engine.Input]) to something lower, i use 900. You will notice a very slow mouse sens the first 5 or 6 seconds of the match, then it will be much better.
I use the Nail gun (unl. at rank 14) with the scope addon and the Tommy gun (unl. at rank 2), with the bees plasmid (it does over time damage and covers the enemies screen) and the fire plasmid. I can counter the launcher spammers most of the time and it's a fun setup
The gamemodes are really fun, especially the one where you have to hold the little sister for 3 minutes total. Still, they have to balance the granade launcher and some other stuff
The Librarian
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There have already been several of those, and all are at least decent in my opinion.Cagen said:
The Big Sister breaking the glass and all the water rushing in, the train dropping and shaking the whole room, getting a good look at Rapture while under water on that cliff, the splicer pushing down that bathysphere-shaped ride in Ryan Amusements, the Big Sister drawing you in with her powers, breaking the door down, in Ryan Amusements as well.
bodyofanamerican
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I'd say about a 1/3, give or take.Dax01 said:
Played the first couple hours last night, I'm pretty disappointed so far. I should mention that the first game is up there with my favorite games of all time, I absolutely loved it. I mean it's not like I didn't know this, but experiencing rapture for the first time was at least half the game the first time around. Now that the charm has worn off it's really just kind of highlighting how clunky the combat was/is.
And what was with the beginning being a near carbon copy of the first? Did they think I wouldn't remember or something? It's lazy at best, insulting at worst. That really didn't give me much hope for seeing some creativity through the rest of the game. We'll see though.
And what was with the beginning being a near carbon copy of the first? Did they think I wouldn't remember or something? It's lazy at best, insulting at worst. That really didn't give me much hope for seeing some creativity through the rest of the game. We'll see though.
I didn't planned buying this, but when I saw the CE I had to buy it, PC version for me, 30 cheaper than console version.
Btw, the widescreen issue again ?? http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/article/widescreenannouncement :lol
Btw, the widescreen issue again ?? http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/article/widescreenannouncement :lol
The Librarian
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Too short? The Piano bomb is just as short, if not shorter, than half of the stuff I mentioned.Cagen said:
eXistor
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I finished it a few hours ago and I ave to say I loved every second of it. It's very hard to put this above the first game even though in a lot of ways it's superior. The games' length is perfect, there were absolutely no weak spots in the levels, the endgame was great (this is where Bioshock 1 really failed). The main story was definitely weaker and it's also more of the same and it's exactly that aspect that makes Bioshock the standout title of the series.
You really can't ignore the fact that Ken Levine and co. put together Rapture and all its secrets and background stories etc. and the fact that this game basically takes that and makes a few new levels out of it, as good as they are. Any sequel that does this even if it improves upon the original, doesn't deserve to be recognised as the better game, even though objectively speaking, I really do think Bioshock 2 is a better game in most ways.
But please, PLEASE, don't make a Bioshock 3. Have the balls to leave it at this and maybe use Rapture for a different game altogether. I know I sound like a broken record, but make it a different genre with completely different characters and story and have it be set in Rapture in its glory days. My vote goes to a murder-mystery adventure game.
You really can't ignore the fact that Ken Levine and co. put together Rapture and all its secrets and background stories etc. and the fact that this game basically takes that and makes a few new levels out of it, as good as they are. Any sequel that does this even if it improves upon the original, doesn't deserve to be recognised as the better game, even though objectively speaking, I really do think Bioshock 2 is a better game in most ways.
But please, PLEASE, don't make a Bioshock 3. Have the balls to leave it at this and maybe use Rapture for a different game altogether. I know I sound like a broken record, but make it a different genre with completely different characters and story and have it be set in Rapture in its glory days. My vote goes to a murder-mystery adventure game.
brandonh83
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So far I'm liking this one more than the first. The first was amazing and had a great twist and did an excellent job of establishing Rapture but I feel this game is starting to explore some cooler mythos and I like the more focused storyline. I also think the current place I'm at now is better than any level in the original.
I'm still early in so these are just some 2nd inning thoughts, but so far so good.
I'm still early in so these are just some 2nd inning thoughts, but so far so good.
Outtrigger888
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I cant believe some of the comments around here. Im 6 hours in and loving it. The gameplay is wayyyy better than Bioshock 1. People are saying its to hard, then play the damn game on easy. I love that its a challenge, it makes me actually think and use traps and plasmids. The level design is still good and more open in areas, which is nice not feeling cramped in a hallway like bioshock 1. I can actually move some where and set traps and lead splicers to my turrets or security cameras. I didnt expect this game to give me the holy shit "wow" factor bioshock 1 gave me, because games like that come once every 5 years or so