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[Vire]

See, I didn't really enjoy the hard mode in Bioshock 1.

The gunplay wasn't good or deep enough to differentiate the skill needed from normal to hard.

It didn't feel like I was required to play differently, just that the enemies had more health.

Maybe since the gunplay is better in Infinite, it's more worthwhile.

 

[bumclot]

it mostly hovers around 27-30 ish (thats the area where most people dont notice the stutter but i do) but when it drops, it feels like low 20's sometimes.

So you notice stutter at 30 fps? Must be a bitch to play the majority of console games.

 

[beastmode]

Starting on 1999 mode here. Because I'm not a casual like Derrick.

 

[S1kkZ]

So you notice stutter at 30 fps? Must be a bitch to play the majority of console games.

no, i notice it when it goes below 30. so yeah, your point still stands

 

[Cystm]

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[Vire]

no, i notice it when it goes below 30. so yeah, your point still stands

Is it like Mass Effect 1 (360) levels of bad?

Why god why.

 

[S1kkZ]

Is it like Mass Effect 1 (360) levels of bad?

sometimes, yes.

 

[RoboPlato]

sometimes, yes.

That's a damn shame. Can anyone vouch for the PS3 version near the end?

 

[StuBurns]

sometimes, yes.

Fucking hell, that's surprising coming from TakeTwo.

 

[Askherserenity]

So people already know how to enable 1999 mode? Is it just a code you input in the menu? That would be pretty cool. How difficult is the mode?

 

[The Librarian]

sometimes, yes.

Eh. I dealt with ME's framerate just fine. But it's been a long time since 2007; maybe my tolerance levels have changed.

Could Irrational ship out a patch to improve the framerate? Or is that beyond the capabilities of a patch?

 

[S1kkZ]

guys: first and last hour, rest is fine(ish). and that area in the last bit has to be a bug or something. i diont get why one of the worst and most bland looking areas performs so bad, while others (huge open areas with lot of combat) dont.

 

[Wonderfalls]

Are the textures between the two consoles equivalent?

I think so, yes, but the 360 applies what I assume to be more aggressive AA which means that in a side-by-side comparison the PS3 looks slightly more crisp. Detail on distant buildings is slightly better defined for example. But it looks great on both consoles.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Starting on 1999 mode here. Because I'm not a casual like Derrick.

QFT. I can't take anyone serious if they mainstream with m/kb on granny mode.

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Oh my, yes.

 

[Zeliard]

So people already know how to enable 1999 mode? Is it just a code you input in the menu? That would be pretty cool. How difficult is the mode?

It's the Konami code (for real)

QFT. I can't take anyone serious if they mainstream with m/kb on granny mode.

Derrick doesn't even use kb/m, heh

It's no wonder he couldn't get into Stalker.

 

[RoboPlato]

guys: first and last hour, rest is fine(ish). and that area in the last bit has to be a bug or something. i diont get why one of the worst and most bland looking areas performs so bad, while others (huge open areas with lot of combat) dont.

Sounds like some random memory leak or something. I remember Orange Box PS3 was like that. Performance would tank with nothing was happening but busy areas would be OK.

 

[Vire]

sometimes, yes.

God damnit.

ME1 was painful for me.

Did you install the game to your harddrive? Maybe that helps? I dunno... :/

 

[Superimposer]

I'm not a crazy framerate junkie like some of you. That's not to say I like framerate crashes, I'm just not as sensitised to it. I'm perfectly happy with 30fps and don't really care about 60. And I have to say that I haven't had any really bad drops at all yet on 360 installed to hard drive.

Also I was just in the biggest fight yet and still no drops. And I just want to say it was awesome. It felt almost like that 'gameplay' demo from E3 2011. Everything clicked and I felt like a total badass.

 

[iFirez]

Sorry if this has been discussed previously but can we download the High-Res textures straight away at midnight of release or will there be a delay? And we're sure they are not included in the steam pre-load already?

 

[Vire]

There's really only been two or three times I've been visibly annoyed by the framerate of a console game. So I'm not super sensitive, but it still bothers me...

1. Blighttown in Dark Souls

2. Mass Effect 1

3. Shadow of The Colossus

 

[Quesa]

Love this post for obvious reasons and agree that GAF should play Hard and use the controller config you mention (marksman).

Any config recs for PC/Mouse? Pretty sure I'll use right/left mouse for aiming/shooting, but not sure where vigors would go.

 

[RoboPlato]

I'm not a crazy framerate junkie like some of you. That's not to say I like framerate crashes, I'm just not as sensitised to it. I'm perfectly happy with 30fps and don't really care about 60. And I have to say that I haven't had any really bad drops at all yet on 360 installed to hard drive.

Also I was just in the biggest fight yet and still no drops. And I just want to say it was awesome. It felt almost like that 'gameplay' demo from E3 2011. Everything clicked and I felt like a total badass.

Good to hear that everything does eventually click. That was one of my biggest worried from the, admittedly limited, footage I've seen. Going between guns, tonics, Elizabeth throwing guns, deciding what tears to open, and moving between skylines and ground seemed awesome but almost like it would be too much to do all at once or all in one fight. I love options but was worried that some would be too easily ignored or cumbersome to use.

 

[DukeBobby]

sometimes, yes.

That's...pretty bad. Mass Effect 1 was unplayable for me at times.

Thank god I'm getting it on PC.

 

[FartOfWar]

I'm not a crazy framerate junkie like some of you. That's not to say I like framerate crashes, I'm just not as sensitised to it. I'm perfectly happy with 30fps and don't really care about 60. And I have to say that I haven't had any really bad drops at all yet on 360 installed to hard drive.

Also I was just in the biggest fight yet and still no drops. And I just want to say it was awesome. It felt almost like that 'gameplay' demo from E3 2011. Everything clicked and I felt like a total badass.

Which fight? Spoiler bar or pm response of course.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Also I was just in the biggest fight yet and still no drops. And I just want to say it was awesome. It felt almost like that 'gameplay' demo from E3 2011. Everything clicked and I felt like a total badass.

What part? I wouldn't mind going for a second run since I'm starting to think I played like a sissy cat.

edit: the bookmarks throughout the game are a godsend.

 

[Zeliard]

Any config recs for PC/Mouse? Pretty sure I'll use right/left mouse for aiming/shooting, but not sure where vigors would go.

Vigors on the number keys, possibly also Q and E for your most frequently used ones (or other nearby unused keys). You're limited to two weapons this time so the scroll wheel will work well enough for that.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Vigors on the number keys, possibly also Q and E for your most frequently used ones (or other nearby unused keys). You're limited to two weapons this time so the scroll wheel will work well enough for that.

If it's like BS1, then the function keys are for plasmids/vigors.

oh wait, recommendations. Not sure. The function keys did well for me. I'm not sure if weapons are limited in PC version but if two then follow what zeliard said.

 

[Dragnet]

There's really only been two or three times I've been visibly annoyed by the framerate of a console game. So I'm not super sensitive, but it still bothers me...

1. Blighttown in Dark Souls

2. Mass Effect 1

3. Shadow of The Colossus

It's nowhere near any of those levels.

 

[Zeliard]

If it's like BS1, then the function keys are for plasmids/vigors.

True but that's because in Bioshock the number keys were taken up by weapon binds. That shouldn't be the case this time around (by default), I don't think, since you only have two weapons at any given time.

 

[bidguy]

lol just went to the season pass store (ingame on 360) and it says FREE.

When I click on it its -1msp. Was worth a try though.

 

[Mechazawa]

Shawn, do you happen to know if Infinite allows mid-game difficulty switching?

I'll take the "do Hard first play through" to heart if the game has a safety net.

Edit: Or hell, anyone that can answer that really.

 

[Vire]

It's nowhere near any of those levels.

In the end though, I still love all three of those games.

 

[bidguy]

Shawn, do you happen to know if Infinite allows mid-game difficulty switching?

I'll take the "do Hard first play through" to heart if the game has a safety net.

Edit: Or hell, anyone that can answer that really.

You can but I don't know if it tampers with achievements if you do.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

True but that's because in Bioshock the number keys were taken up by weapon binds. That shouldn't be the case this time around (by default), I don't think, since you only have two weapons at any given time.

I did not think about that, so that sounds about right. The IGN review really did not keep me informed at all. Games industry :'(

 

[Dragnet]

Shawn, do you happen to know if Infinite allows mid-game difficulty switching?

I'll take the "do Hard first play through" to heart if the game has a safety net.

Edit: Or hell, anyone that can answer that really.

It does. It'll affect your trophies/achievements though!

 

[Mr.Fresh]

I'm still trying to decide between PS3 and 360. No one has exclusive dlc or anything right?

 

[NAPK1NS]

Spoiler

Real

Reviews hit tonight at 12 EST correct?

I would like confirmation on this, too. Since it's Sunday, I don't see it happening. Tomorrow afternoon/evening is more likely.

isn't it Tuesday? Steam says it unlocks in 2 days 2 hours

Well, it's Monday night 12:00AM. Basically tomorrow, say I. Let me dream a little.

 

[Mechazawa]

Awesome, thanks guys.

 

[AlimNassor]

I'll play on easy. I'm just that terrible at video games )=

 

[The Librarian]

I'll play on easy. I'm just that terrible at video games )=

Well hi there, grandma!

 

[Dragnet]

Well hi there, grandma!

Psh. Sometimes it's nice to just sit back and enjoy a game with no pressure. Columbia is certainly one of those places. I was tempted to stick it on easy!

 

[AlimNassor]

Well hi there, grandma!

It's not something I'm proud of y'know? I never play a game on anything above easy/normal. I still get a challenge it's so odd. People say CoD takes no skill, then explain how I go 5-23 deaths a match and always rank dead last?

 

[Lakitu]

It's not something I'm proud of y'know? I never play a game on anything above easy/normal.

Don't worry, I'm the same. Well, I just always stick to normal anyway. Never below or never higher. Never felt compelled to play in higher or lower settings.

 

[DukeBobby]

Easy mode? You people are the cancer that is killing gaming,

Spoiler

said Derrick.

 

[The Librarian]

Looks like we got a bunch of casual, "mainstream" players up in here.

 

[NAPK1NS]

Any pre-Infinite plans here?

Fuck it, I'm gonna' really party it up and vacuum. Make the place real spiffy for bes gayme evr.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Easy mode? You people are the cancer that is killing gaming,

Spoiler

said Derrick.

Easy mode is what wipes away the debt.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

any word yet on the original Bioshock coming with the PS3 version?

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Meh, that's every AAA game now. Typical design doc for every game I've played this year has: start with limited exploration, introduce stealth, introduce enemy, introduce heavy enemy type, combat scenario, combat scenario, encounter with main villain, brief recovery/platforming segment, combat fuckfest until credits. If it's not too too bad I can deal.

Ouch. When you put it like that...

Funny you mention this, I'm finally on Act 5 again in Vanquish, and I'm noticing how used to the breaks/breathers I've been getting in a lot of games recently when compared to something which barely takes it's foot off the throttle except to do change things up.

 

[OG Kush]

Which pre order package should i get on GMG? As in which has the most resale value for the bonuses?