I never saw the big advantage of dual wielding. The only difference is you can literally fire both arms at once, otherwise it's just a case of double clicking one trigger to fire, and you can double click quicker than the arm raising/firing animation is anyway.
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Bioshock Infinite |OT| No Gods, Kings, or Irrational Games
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Sober, even. The majesty of this game is so powerful, so overwhelming it's intoxicating.
No, Guitar Hero at least took way less time.
I didn't mind Pipe Dream that much but it did get tedious.
Easy there Sessler
You really should just play this right now. I haven't even gotten to any actual gameplay, yet, just the way you are introduced into the world is absolutely unreal. I've never seen anything like this before.
Sessler's hyperbole be damned, he's so right.
Can you paint with the colors of the wind?
v0mitg0d
Member
What difficulty did you play on? Do you suggest harder or normal?
I'm stuck in poor old America where we apparently get everything last now. It's no big deal though, I'm in no rush to play this due to not having any excitement for it (probably even less due to the hyperbolic reviews). I've been surfing gaf and playing Xcom all day.
ThaiGrocer
Member
I'm a little off the rails here...Yeah that sucks mighty. Especially since the pop covers were really unique and just a joy to listen to. Hopefully Irrational has our backs and distributes those missing pieces through the proper channel
Imagine if you squeeze the songbird doll and it plays the missing covers. I would give my annual tithing for that. Take all of my tithing. It may also feature a threatening squawk between track changes.
Old builds being included isn't exactly an uncommon occurrence. Here's Darksiders 2, for instance:
Yeah, but as somebody who works with Steam branches on a daily basis, their mastering guy really needs to clean up his stuff lol.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
DAYUM. Saves me a few trips at least.
No I agree. But as a hacking mechanic I couldn't help but roll my eyes. It reminded to much of NBA games where you have to land the dot in the middle to get the freethrow shot to go in.
It's dumb, and felt out of place. But that's just my opinion.
You're holding plasmids in one hand and a weapon in the other. It isn't a simple case of being able to fire more quickly, but being able to use both in tandem. You're able to combine the plasmids and weapons in ways that you'd be hard-pressed to in Bioshock due to having to choose between one or the other at any given time.
It means that plasmids in Bio2 function much more effectively as support powers to use in tandem with your weapon. In Bio1 for the most part they were basically just a glorified gun.
Vire
Member
Why do you buy things when you go in with expectation of hating it?
Seems like a waste of money and time.
ThaiGrocer
Member
Stuck in the US for PC version. I might as well play on that tomorrow since so close to Boston time.
Hardcore gamers take it all in. Well, at least that's true with a few I know. Same somewhat-vicious cycle.
jacksepticeye
Member
Elizabeth's AI isn't as good as it was made out to be. She's great most times but she's acted crazy a few times on me, trying to get to a point right in front of her for trigger an event and she would walk back and forth without actually going into it.
She also did a huge jump off the platform out of columbia completely falling to her death,I mean the model didn't glitch, she actually jumped herself only to have her end up behind me when I turned around
She also did a huge jump off the platform out of columbia completely falling to her death,I mean the model didn't glitch, she actually jumped herself only to have her end up behind me when I turned around
I liked that it was real-time in Bio2. Automatically made it more interesting.
Do you ever get excited for video games anymore? I mean christ.
You know your going to hate this game to. You love stealth, you love old school game mechanics and this has almost none of that which you cherish and love so dearly.
I mean, I imagine if you don't even care for Columbia or it's atmosphere and could care less about narrative or writing in games than just skip it honestly.
Yeesh. Any word on PS3 version? I'm trying to figure out which console version to buy.
No excitement =/= hate.
I do things on occasion with low expectations. Makes it easier to enjoy something for what it is.
Peterthumpa
Member
Sorry if already asked, but does Bioshock Infinite resembles Dishonored in some way, artistically or graphically speaking? I don't want to spoil myself looking at gameplay videos.
Why do you 'have to choose'? Let's say for example I want to shock someone, and shoot them with a shotgun. In Bio1 if you have Bolt on, it's one pull on LT, then two pulls on RT to equip and fire the shotgun. In Bio2 yes, you reduce it from three button presses to two, but time wise, you gain virtually nothing. Pulling RT twice can be done very very quickly with little effort.
I'm not saying it's not better, it is, but at the time the outcry about the advantage was baffling, it's barely any better.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Spending money probably makes him happy, playing games do not? It's a vicious cycle. It's just the way it is
Superimposer
This is getting weirder all the time
You're possibly the only person in the world who looks at amazing rave reviews and those actually turn you off playing a game.
So it's hyperbolic. Doesn't that mean the reviewers are going crazy over the game?
Plus landing on the blue line gave you a bonus prize! So good.
ThaiGrocer
Member
I just imagined it was her powers at work and carried on. Still better than many considering the restrictions set in place.
electricpirate
Member
Drink deeply of my pretentious bullshit!
The difference is, there is only a slim chance of him actually enjoying the game.
Here is a video review from Official Playstation Magazine that features plenty of PS3 footage. It looks fine, and they gave it a 10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJdA4C-Yi2s
razgriz417
Member
Looks like Andy helped us answer the question regarding downloading HD textures
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51446736&postcount=278
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51446736&postcount=278
Amazon has all the Songbird Editions back in stock for those who want one:
http://amzn.com/B009PJ9L8E
http://amzn.com/B009PJ9L8E
It's not that I don't care about any of that stuff, it's that I need a good game to be there first. If a game is too shallow then I'm not going to care at all about your world or your story. It doesn't help that most games that focus on nothing but story seem to still fail miserably at doing it well.
So yeah there's your reason for why I rarely ever get excited for games now. It's certainly no coincidence that my decreasing excitement happened at the same time games started getting way more streamlined and cinematic.
Muffdraul
Member
In Soviet Russia, Pipe Dream includes first person shooter mini-game.
ThaiGrocer
Member
Ah, thank you. It was slightly confusing, although not a big deal overall.
OK cool, thanks. I'm kinda scared about seeing spoilers so I'll take your word for it.
Yeah. As far as an AI goes, who is your companino throughout the whole game. Who gives you guns, ammo, can bring in cover, can hack for you, and plus those random emotions she sometimes puts on when she sees a dead body and such.
That's what makes her interesting. Obviously there will be flaws and glitches throughout a 15 hr game. It's to be expected honestly.
So why haven't you given up? You're in a thread for a game that has to have been designed to please five million people, it's obviously not going to be a dedicated hardcore experience. Why even buy it?
You wouldn't keep buying Hollywood blockbusters if all you want is a Shane Carruth joint.
Because when reviewers get stupid like this the game always ends up sucking. In the review thread I listed the other games that got 96 or higher on metacritic and how almost all of them lacked in the gameplay department. Reviewers acting like that is my clue that it's happening again.
Stuburns said:
I'm bored.
jacksepticeye
Member
Yeah I thought she was doing something proper for a minute because it looked like a proper animation but then I realised it just bugged out. But yeah other times she's fantastic and anticipates things well
As far as being a "game" goes.
It's basically like bioshock with a few lite rpg elements with the gears and better/quicker combat via the rails.
If you liked the combat/game part of bioshock/bioshock 2 you'll like Infinite.
If you hated those "game parts" than just forget Infinite.
j0hnny_385
Member
Derrick gonna Derrick it seems...
Dafuq? Dishonored was very clear from the start (Game Informer cover story) what art style it wanted to achieve and they nailed it perfectly.
why do you even bother, folks?
Dafuq? Dishonored was very clear from the start (Game Informer cover story) what art style it wanted to achieve and they nailed it perfectly.
It just allows for far more flexibility to have dual wielding at your fingertips when you are being surrounded by various enemies. Going one-by-one through your list of plasmids and weapons when you are being surrounded and shot at is far less convenient and tactically beneficial for obvious reasons.
The difference is so blatant that I'm fairly surprised to see you arguing so adamantly. Go play Bioshock 1 and 2 again and the difference will be stark.
I'm also speaking from the point of view of someone using kb/m. Perhaps Bioshock 2 on a gamepad is just as cumbersome as the first game for the most part. With kb/m, it most certainly is far smoother and more flexible. Plasmids are bound to the right mouse button and the weapon to the left by default, so everything is instantaneous.
Derrick's a great guy. I like him a lot. He could easily go from being a pariah here to just one of the gang on RPGCodex or similar forums but he sticks it out here. Nonetheless, I seriously suspect he confuses complexity with depth. Derrick, look into what Valve's Robin Walker has said on the topic, for instance.
Peterthumpa
Member
360 gameplay (?):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Kwx34oWAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Kwx34oWAM