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Bioshock Infinite |OT| No Gods, Kings, or Irrational Games
- Thread starter Cystm
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That is not how it works at all. In Bio1 whatever your last gun and plasmids were remain on quick select on the respective trigger, exactly like Bio2.
EDIT: And to be clear, that post was not some sort of dig at Derrick, he's rad.
I don't mind Derrick and his views. The problem I have with Derrick is that he's currently in a thread about people who love to eat grapes, and he's just posting randomly "bah, I hate grapes. there to sour!"
And just keeps repeating these sentiments over and over again. It comes off trollish.
I don't hold Dishonored in very high esteem in the first place. I think not only is it graphically repulsive, but it's not a very good game, either.
I am in the minority on that one, though.
I think we should probably just stop the conversation here. "Quick select" is so far from what I'm talking about here that it isn't even funny. We actually have hotkey binds with the keyboard, including with Bio1.
Magic Mushroom
Member
Yeah, he says the same in literally every thread. It's a broken record.
If he dislikes gaming, and he literally dislikes everything - from AAA to indie - then why not quit it and find a new pasion?
ThaiGrocer
Member
I'm patiently waiting for Steam to implement gaben's idea on providing referrals to people that curate products available on their servers. I can imagine prolific GAFers with ideas on what a game should be would make a shiny penny out of their personal lists.
Bahahahaha.
And yet you are going to buy the game anyway...
I didn't play Bio2 on PC, the first one's mouse aim was so bad, and strange twitch death animations put me off. I own it though, so maybe I'll try it.
They are on a whole other level.
Come to post this...
ThaiGrocer
Member
Purchasing out of boredom. That sounds healthy... well, it's not as bad if you're living off a trust fund or something like that. A rarity, though.
JetBlackPanda
Member
how long do you think it will take to DL this baby at 20mbs?
He was probably bored and his parents didnt have the cash at the moment or he couldnt sell enough garbage off Steam to buy a mint copy of KOTOR II
ThaiGrocer
Member
I'm badly estimating it's 15GB, so 20 Mbps...
If you're stuck at peak speed, ideally that would take 1 hour and 40 minutes.
JetBlackPanda
Member
thanks man.
spookyfish
Member
Wind's Howling
Member
Whut?
I mean, I get your point. Bioshock 2 is still Bioshock, certainly, and it wasn't going to ever feel drastically different.
But I do think they did a number of things to make the combat more interesting. It isn't just the dual wielding, though I think that's more significant than you clearly seem to.
It's the dual wielding in combination with the other things they did, and the gameplay is generally geared towards being able to shoot weapons and toss plasmids more rapidly and in tandem. Something like the little sister adoption parts could be quite annoying with Bio1's single-wielding system, at least on Hard.
Now I'm curious to see how Infinite went about it. General sentiment so far seems to be that it's a lot more gunplay-based, with the plasmids/vigors taking on even more of a supporting role. I'm interested to see how the Skyhook plays into it.
Which is funny because Spec Ops was not particularly amazing gameplay wise. It was all in the setting, story and atmosphere.
Exactly and he has previously stated he isn't a "settings" type of guy.
Which brings up the question (again), why are you going to be playing this? Besides boredom, which is a stupid fucking excuse with the extensive library of perfect Obsidian games out there.
jim2point0
Banned
SweetFX. It isn't working for me. This is causing things to stir in my angry place.... =(
Did you turn off FXAA?
ThaiGrocer
Member
I can't tell if you're joking or not. I need to play more Obsidian games.
Few love obsidian games more than me, but I don't think you understand how boring it would be to play nothing but them on a loop until the end of my days. I need new stuff as much as the next person, the difference being that my desire for new stuff doesn't make me ignore problems just because my hunger is being satisfied.
MvmntInGrn
Member
I want to play this but I can't even bring myself to finish Bioshock 1. Gameplay is poorly balanced and I'm tired of feeling like I'm experiencing the story from afar through audio tapes and behind windows.
Inifinite seems to have much more direct story-telling which is a plus for me and it looks beautiful. Just need more gameplay impressions. I don't mind linear shooter or focus on combat either as long as its still mechanically solid and balanced (though most linear shooters don't stay interesting for their duration, even the 8-10-hour ones get really stale before their close).
Inifinite seems to have much more direct story-telling which is a plus for me and it looks beautiful. Just need more gameplay impressions. I don't mind linear shooter or focus on combat either as long as its still mechanically solid and balanced (though most linear shooters don't stay interesting for their duration, even the 8-10-hour ones get really stale before their close).
Spec Ops has more solid gameplay than Bioshock did. Sure its more of this generations same-old in many respects but it plays well aside from some annoying final few conflicts that so many games seem to fall into.
Welp.
What's so medicore about the combat?
I mean, what differentiates this combat that makes it so "Awful" compared to say something like Uncharted (besides it being a third person shooter) or killzone for instance.
It's not OMG AMAZIN" REVOLUTIONARY, I can understand that notion. But at the same time, it's not bad either. It's solid if anything else, and better than the combat in Bioshock 1 IMO.
I think the perception around here is more that you actively seek out problems, not that you ignore them.
Tummi Gummi
Member
That is ironic, since even SpOps nuts tend usually admit that the gameplay is passable at best.
But why do these threads always end up being about Derrick? Seriously I've lurked for a few months and it gets creepy
I honestly didn't have a problem with the combat in Bioshock. I thought it was pretty good - better than (gasp) System Shock 2.
Remachinate
Member
He *been* mad. Derrick sets him off like no other on these boards.
ThaiGrocer
Member
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1910s
I branched off of that during the weekend while waiting for stuff to finish. The black and white pictures really make it feel like a long time ago.
I also liked the article on having a picture your corpse before a funeral.
While that is certainly true, BioShock isn't really in a genre saturated like Spec Ops is. If you just think of it as a straight FPS, sure, and if that's all you get out of the experience, then again, not a great game. As a console shooter compared to the Halos, or a PC shooter compared to the FEARs, it's gulf is greater than Spec Ops is to it's best of class (which I'd argue is Vanquish), but it provided so much more as an experience, for me at least. People praise the story, and obviously that was pretty cool, but Bio1's true strength was just it's sense of place, it's atmosphere, it's ability to radically change the mood of levels. Spec Ops did nothing for me on any of those levels.
However, this is an Infinite thread, so I don't want to derail with Spec Ops chat, I was just surprised it was a Derrick jam.
You're respawning, or enemies are? I hope it's the former, I really hate infinitely spawning enemies in shooters. Awful.Only 2 hours into the game, Hard is kicking my ass, and I'm broke from all the damn respawning. Gonna turn it down to Easy
That is ironic, since even SpOps nuts tend usually admit that the gameplay is passable at best.
But why do these threads always end up being about Derrick? Seriously I've lurked for a few months and it gets creepy
I honestly didn't have a problem with the combat in Bioshock. I thought it was pretty good - better than (gasp) System Shock 2.
I'm the biggest fan of Spec Ops on the entire forum and I would say the gameplay is decent at worst and pretty good at best.
Also, look at Derrick's post count. It speaks for itself why every thread feels like it is about him, not there's anything wrong with posting a lot.