I'm thinking about doing the same thing. I'm relying too much on cover, and it just isn't as much fun as I think it could be. Should I drop it down to medium?
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Bioshock Infinite |OT| No Gods, Kings, or Irrational Games
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i'm just glad they decided to allow us to dual wield like in Bioshock 2. see guys, that game existed for a reason! 
go medium. have fun.
go medium. have fun.
Anton668
Member
i completely agree with this. The initial shooting gameplay was much weaker than it is when all the pieces are fleshed out (tears, rails, etc). I was just ready to get to Elizabeth. The pacing in general is a little off.
Anyone else feel like the game (at least the first 3rd, how far i am) might have too much art? I feel like i'm unnaturally reading everything...every sign, toy, little shop,...there's just stuff everywhere and in a game like this you don't want to miss anything so some of the sections are just jam-packed full of art stuff. I wish it would point me to the important stuff more than me having to go look in every corner. Maybe it's just me though.
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Deleted member 17706
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My only complaint is that other than a few encounters, Normal is a bit too easy. If you're used to playing on hard you will faceroll everything.
That's not necessarily a bad thing, though. At least now I'm using all of my powers and feeling like a badass.
There are still company stores? What I mean to say is that 1912 Progressivism =/= 2013 Progressivism.
EDIT:
Also, yeah that first scene of violence at the raffle is off putting. I know Booker is a "bad dude", but it just seems way too jarring for him to do something that extreme at his first encounter with resistance.
Tummi Gummi
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I don't think it's a "progressive game" in the sense of being in-your-face or heavy handed about it. Assassin's Creed games are definitely "progressive" in that sense, Infinite is not.
Red Blaster
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i just got to the [mid game spoilers maybe?] part where
and so far I haven't found hard to be that much of a problem, i've died a lot but generally i've held my own in fights. i have been spending a lot of money upgrading guns over vigors tho.
the airship gets destroyed by songbird
I don't necessarily agree. I mean in the mid 1800s and early 1900s people fought hard for an 8 hour work day. Those rights were gradually expanded with the New Deal.
Now however, how many people actually work an 8 hour workday? I average more like 10. I laughed out loud when Fink mentioned the 16 hour work day, that's probably what Irrational was working in crunch mode. It's common in the tech industry anyway. Unions rose and unions are dying, and with it many of these rights.
the game doesn't get challenging until halfway through the game, imo. some of the later enemies have pretty powerful weapons and those Patriots are quite tough when they're surrounded by grunts.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the term. Do you mean BI is in your face or AC is in your face?
I consider BI's just putting it out there without bashing you over the head with how evil it is, is pretty subtle and (at least as I understood the term) progressive.
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Deleted member 17706
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Yeah, it really wasn't until a bit after the part you're at where hard starts to get really challenging. Enemies really start to take a lot more damage before going down.
Yes. You'll be seeing them throughout the game.
BenjaminBirdie
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I don't necessarily agree. I mean in the mid 1800s and early 1900s people fought hard for an 8 hour work day. Those rights were gradually expanded with the New Deal.
Now however, how many people actually work an 8 hour workday? I average more like 10. I laughed out loud when Fink mentioned the 16 hour work day, that's probably what Irrational was working in crunch mode. It's common in the tech industry anyway. Unions rose and unions are dying, and with it many of these rights.
This is my point exactly. I think this sort of stuff is completely relevant today. As is war-based racism, prejudices, etc.
correct
I do like feeling like a badass at times... I think I'll give it a go.
I don't necessarily agree. I mean in the mid 1800s and early 1900s people fought hard for an 8 hour work day. Those rights were gradually expanded with the New Deal.
Now however, how many people actually work an 8 hour workday? I average more like 10. I laughed out loud when Fink mentioned the 16 hour work day, that's probably what Irrational was working in crunch mode. It's common in the tech industry anyway. Unions rose and unions are dying, and with it many of these rights.
Eh, it is not worth it to have a discussion about progressivism in a thread that, so far, has been pretty debate free about themes. Sorry to have brought it up in the first place.
All I meant is that, while it's a neat albeit really cartoonized, look at industrial baronism, there's only so much knowing about that can do about today's conditions. Columbia is a closed system with what appears to be one actual company that makes nearly everything. Hard to extrapolate that to to today's conditions (in all respects). I'm not saying this as someone who disagrees with progressives or anything, just from a nerdy historical storytelling standpoint. I feel like the themes are more "frames" than they are trying to make a point.
I don't feel like it has too much of that stuff, but I appreciated a hub setting of bioshock more in relation to the game progression. I felt more...free to explore, I guess. Due to it all being linear(atleast to where I am), I feel I have to keep checking where the objective is to go the other way until I reach a dead end. Then I reached a door to 'leave area' which seems to fully move you forward without the option to go back, which is why I want to not miss things like that. I am pretty sure I already missed a side objective regarding a key because I literally had to backtrack in the opposite direction from the moment I got it.
DyslexicAlucard
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I think the point of upgrading health is that it makes health pickups more valuable. Because they replenish based on percentage of health, you get more if your health is greater. Plus, I'm pretty sure your health goes up more with each tick than your shields do.
That being said, I've only put 1 tick into health and the rest into shields and salts. I use the gear that double my shield recharge rate and makes the time it takes to start one second shorter.
On a different note, where do I find the pre-order gear? I pre-ordered it from Steam and never found it.
Superimposer
This is getting weirder all the time
Anybody had this happen before? Elizabeth is stuck holding the cotton candy lol
Jesus... put those pictures in quotes. Funny though.
Tummi Gummi
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AC is bashing you over the head, not Infinite. In AC1 it was merely a part of the setting they wanted to use, but from 2 onwards it leaned towards very on-the-nose. I don't think any of the Biohock games are that forceful about their politics, even 1. Infinite is just getting more attention because the themes are more controversial in themselves.
-Amon-
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I don't necessarily agree. I mean in the mid 1800s and early 1900s people fought hard for an 8 hour work day. Those rights were gradually expanded with the New Deal.
Now however, how many people actually work an 8 hour workday? I average more like 10. I laughed out loud when Fink mentioned the 16 hour work day, that's probably what Irrational was working in crunch mode. It's common in the tech industry anyway. Unions rose and unions are dying, and with it many of these rights.
Spot on.
No New Game+ is making me a sad panda. I want to replay.
If it helps, your collected audio logs/sights and combat stats for cheevos are carried over across playthroughs.
No upgrades though, which kinda stinks.
I started playthrough 3 this morning. Hard mode. Getting ready to tackle 1999 modeNo New Game+ is making me a sad panda. I want to replay.
Vire
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No New Game+ is making me a sad panda. I want to replay.
Yeah it sucks... I would have really liked to bring in all my upgrades for hard or 1999 mode.
Achievements really are the spawn of Satan.
Superimposer
This is getting weirder all the time
You're within a good range to just finish it.
So, this is the first title that my fiance is actually just as excited to see the story play out as I am, (she wasn't interested in Uncharted, or any other blockbuster game, but this one has her hooked).
One thing I'm finding, as mentioned before, is that I'd much rather playthrough this game with little to no shooting sections. It makes the story feel so disconnected from the action.
If Booker came up across 5-6 enemies in the entire game it would be good enough for me and would contextually match the story.
I think the game is incredible, easily my favourite of all time. But yeh, I would be much happier interacting with the world and letting the story unfold myself instead of shooting my way through it.
I think this is where studios like thechineseroom have it right, using first person to tell a story first and letting the elements that surround the story only serve it, not differentiate from it. (Albeit Esther needs more world interactions), but adopting that philosophy can only be good for this industry imo.
One thing I'm finding, as mentioned before, is that I'd much rather playthrough this game with little to no shooting sections. It makes the story feel so disconnected from the action.
If Booker came up across 5-6 enemies in the entire game it would be good enough for me and would contextually match the story.
I think the game is incredible, easily my favourite of all time. But yeh, I would be much happier interacting with the world and letting the story unfold myself instead of shooting my way through it.
I think this is where studios like thechineseroom have it right, using first person to tell a story first and letting the elements that surround the story only serve it, not differentiate from it. (Albeit Esther needs more world interactions), but adopting that philosophy can only be good for this industry imo.
-Amon-
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Bought the game yersteday, i've made two session for a total of seven hours.
Have to say i find myself intrigued by the game world, a lot. These guys created a fantastic, over the top yet somehow believable enviroment ( if you can bear finding money and EVERYWHERE )
Not in love with the gameplay, but the story and and the world itself are keeping this up for me.
Have to say i find myself intrigued by the game world, a lot. These guys created a fantastic, over the top yet somehow believable enviroment ( if you can bear finding money and EVERYWHERE )
Not in love with the gameplay, but the story and and the world itself are keeping this up for me.
Burgess_101
Member
Nah the candy floss is supposed to be there. Don't question Ken.
It's the exact opposite for me. I want my games to have challenges, not just interactions, and I'm thankful Irrational chooses to make heavily story-based games that are also solid examples of traditional game design.
Bioshock Infinite is the best game this generation. Spec Ops is like 7th.
I actually agree. I like the combat (when I remember to be creative) but I'd be fine with much reduced enemies, like a handful per level. The arena/waves of enemies model is really outdated, coupled with the barrels of ammo everywhere.
One part that was really cool for this reason was pretty early on.
I went to check out a bathroom and there were two soliders at urinals talking to each other. They acted surprised and I was surprised because most of the level was already cleared. It was a lot more impactful than killing 30 soldiers in a row.
Is anyone else finding Elizabeth's footsteps far too loud?
I play with headphones and Dolby Headphone enabled. At least ten times now I've had this ridiculously loud footstep noise behind me - over my left or right shoulder - and jumped out of my seat.
None of the other audio effects have scared the crap out of me!
I play with headphones and Dolby Headphone enabled. At least ten times now I've had this ridiculously loud footstep noise behind me - over my left or right shoulder - and jumped out of my seat.
None of the other audio effects have scared the crap out of me!
I'd say halfway.
Dear god I thought I was the only one! Her footsteps got really annoying to me due to the frequency she moves around and how loud they are.
The Librarian
Banned
Aw yeah. Listening to the soundtrack while I finish my paper. Stupid iTunes though grouped the songs out of order and I don't know how to fix that.