I haven't had that at all, I must say. It's been smooth and - holy fuck - the visuals.
The visuals.
The visuals?
The visuals.
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Bioshock Infinite |OT| No Gods, Kings, or Irrational Games
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I haven't had that at all, I must say. It's been smooth and - holy fuck - the visuals.
The visuals.
The visuals?
The visuals.
It's funny, my PC would have obviously run it better, but I'd already bought the SeasonPass on PSN because my PC was giving me shit. I got it sorted out for SC2-2, but I'd already committed to the PS3 version of Infinite. I was so tempted to just buy it again the night it unlocked.
It was a mistake though, indeed.
Shake Appeal
Member
2-3 months.
The Librarian
Banned
Hmmm. We'll have to meet up before I finish college and my job here.
Vire
Member
Double dip!
Deputy Dangle
Member
I mean aside from stuttering from streaming in areas on occasion, I never had a persistent stuttering issue or any technical issue for that matter. 12 straight hours of smooth sailing.
ThaiGrocer
Member
It's referring to the background loading. Happens not all the time, but there could be a difference on a different drive. I haven't purchased an SSD yet.
No doubt that'll happen. I'll probably keep the PS3 one until the DLC is all done, and double dip whenever a replay is likely. Hopefully with some 50% Off weekend Steam thing. I just bought a Move to mess with that, so I'd really be pissing cash away if I double dipped now.
SirButterstick
Banned
Lol. I'm sticking with my nickname of 'Sunshine' for you.
Both TR and BI have been fantastic, fun gaming experiences.
Deus Ex 1 does not put a huge emphasis on story over gameplay. I don't even remember the story in that game, it's all about the amazing level design and making tough choices that can hurt you.
LOL. It's like night and day TR is much better than Ascension.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Regardless of what people think of the game itself--there's a clear loss of momentum in the second act--I think the ending is going to be one of the consensus best endings of a narrative-driven game.
show me your skeleton
Member
can't wait for my artbook to arrive.
Someone could hold tomb raider up as the poster child for what went wrong this generation and I wouldn't object to it. It would be a great choice.
I LOVE this game, but I am not sure if game-play is remotely contributing to that.
- Storytelling and visuals stand as the heart and soul of this experience.
- Sense of place dominates the beginning and confirms my previous suspicion that presence of heavy game-play deteriorates from moments of spectacle.
- The part when you need to
was poorly paced and executed. There is too much repetition. Should have been cut in my opinion or done differently. It did not really trigger much interest and felt off overall.get guns for Vox Populi
- Elizabeth represents what AI can do and should do; can be pushed even further and I hope Bioshock Infinite proves the concept well enough for other developers to follow (The Last of Us is another example).
- Too much loot leads to me walking around and button mashing E most of the time, taking a huge toll on the experience when you consider amount of focus you are burning this way.
- Combat is solid, but feels largely out of place once it overwhelms you and becomes hectic mess, basically "noise" that does not need to be all over the place. I liked the "kill" cues though, nice touch.
- Once I got advanced weapons I felt like I already got used to basic ones (pistol, machine gun), same applies to vigors.
- Long-range shooting breaks believability of encounters, feels too arcade-y.
- Some tutorial messages were unnecessary and popped out when I was not even able to read them properly.
- Sound Mixing is too dense, or "loud" which causes headaches and confusion overall.
- Audio recordings should work differently then now. I can't decide when and where I should listen to them because I don't know. They should be triggered by developers who know when and where is the most appropriate to do so.
- I believe this game would benefit from some sort of "library", or notes (Oblivion / Skyrim-style).
Vire
Member
And yet you like the Uncharted series.
:lol
Quite the conundrum. To be fair, I didn't get very far in TR either, I got motion sick from the constant camera bobbing in third person.
Especially when so many game narratives in particular - even some of the better ones - can have trouble wrapping things up in a satisfactory way.
I don't really.
show me your skeleton
Member
the second act has the near-impossible task of living up to the sheer magic of the opening hours. from here the game, unfortunately, devolves into a mere shooter which whilst a competent & even enjoyable one, pales in comparison.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
It's a satisfactory wrap to the game and the series (if they so choose, which they won't, although maybe it'll be a wrap for Irrational or Ken Levine), and it doesn't come out of left field--although it's initially surprising, everything revealed has a logical connection to earlier information provided in the game or obvious from context
I think that initial fetch-quest-in-hub bit is kind of slowing, but the warring factions that close up the back half of the second act is pretty pumping stuff.
Knux-Future
Banned
I just got to Soldier's Field.
It's ok.
But I get so sick playing FPS....had the same problem with Portal 2. Not so much with Borderlands 2 tho....
I want to finish it to see the twist...if my body lets me.
It's ok.
But I get so sick playing FPS....had the same problem with Portal 2. Not so much with Borderlands 2 tho....
I want to finish it to see the twist...if my body lets me.
Gonna say you're not reconsidering everything you thought you understood in light of the info the ending provides. Gonna say that with confidence.
Vire
Member
Also
I really liked going into the poor district, the scene in particular with Elizabeth singing to the child was really beautiful. Opening a tear to feed the hungry was also super neat.
Yeah, that's my personal highlight of the game actually.
I haven't actually gotten to the ending yet, but from having been spoiled prior to release on a few things (from a terribly efficient one-sentence spoiler), I know enough of what it entails to have an idea of why people are so excited about it.
I can't wait to get there myself. The nature of some of what I know means that a lot of stuff so far has been really interesting to view from a perspective that isn't intended for a first playthrough. They toss some nice foreshadowing in there. I would recommend that people play the game again to see some of that stuff.
show me your skeleton
Member
that's my favourite part, it's such a poignant, beautiful love letter to the series.
Shake Appeal
Member
Glad to hear people think the middle is saggy. Ever since I've got to
I've been feeling a little less enamoured with the game.
Finkton
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Without getting into too much detail, I found that the game's politics were pretty half-baked as a whole. (Spoilers, act 2)
The Vox Populi work better as an allegory for lynch justice or the French revolutionary vanguard--especially in light of Elizabeth's explicit reference to Les Miserables--than for turn-of-the-century anarchists or even trade unionists, which is what the game leads you to expect.
I was a little disappointed because I find the early 20th to be very fascinating politically, especially in a US context. McKinley, Roosevelt, Taft, and Wilson... flight, the Russo-Japanese intervention, Cuba, Panama, World War 1... America's uneasy relationship with race... the conquest of the last continental frontiers... anarchism and the assassination of McKinley, the attempted assassination of Roosevelt... Just really riveting stuff. Instead we don't get a single political reference post-Lincoln, even in the Boxer Rebellion conversation it's explicitly unsaid WHICH president asked Comstock to stand down...
So basically I felt like the Vox sort of went nowhere. I enjoyed how the first act kept it ambiguous whether or not they even existed, or if they were just a boogyman Comstock used to keep people complacent.
I was a little disappointed because I find the early 20th to be very fascinating politically, especially in a US context. McKinley, Roosevelt, Taft, and Wilson... flight, the Russo-Japanese intervention, Cuba, Panama, World War 1... America's uneasy relationship with race... the conquest of the last continental frontiers... anarchism and the assassination of McKinley, the attempted assassination of Roosevelt... Just really riveting stuff. Instead we don't get a single political reference post-Lincoln, even in the Boxer Rebellion conversation it's explicitly unsaid WHICH president asked Comstock to stand down...
So basically I felt like the Vox sort of went nowhere. I enjoyed how the first act kept it ambiguous whether or not they even existed, or if they were just a boogyman Comstock used to keep people complacent.
Everything from the
Elizabeth wrench knock-out port through to Elizabeth cutting her hair
The Librarian
Banned
Not anyone's fault, but what Zeliard expanded upon with Stump's words – "the series" – and given what GoddyofAus posted, I think I'm piecing together the ending, haha.
Nuts!
Nuts!
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Everything from the
Elizabeth wrench knock-out port through to Elizabeth cutting her hair
If you think of it as a five-act structure it'd be:
1) Beginning to
Rescuing Elizabeth
Elizabeth wrench knock-out
Elizabeth cutting her hair
Either Old Elizabeth and future New York
Trust me, you didn't. Hahaha.
Gotta say the production value in this game is pretty impressive. I'm still early in it (1.5 hrs, havent even found Elizabeth yet). But having not seen much at all of pre-release screens or video, the world is pretty awesome. Most justified huge budget game I've seen in a while (prolly since Uncharted 2 or GoW 3). It's amazing how much of the world you see so early on. Just walking through the city is quite a spectacle.
Digging the world and the lore so far. Hope it keeps up.
Not really digging the racial stuff though. Kinda whatever. Not that controversial or groundbreaking. And doesn't seem to really fit the tone with the rest of the game. Seems too intentional or something. Still early though, maybe it'll be more justified later on.
Digging the world and the lore so far. Hope it keeps up.
Not really digging the racial stuff though. Kinda whatever. Not that controversial or groundbreaking. And doesn't seem to really fit the tone with the rest of the game. Seems too intentional or something. Still early though, maybe it'll be more justified later on.
I do think a lot of that stuff fell flat, for me personally at least.
I don't think Fitzroy is ever really presented as charismatic enough to have warranted her following, and you can make assumptions based on her race/sex/social standing, why she'd be eager to rebel, but I don't think the game earnt it.
However, I was just referring to personal motivation to push on in the game, and the intensity added by being amongst a war, not just the one man wonder you are during the rest of it.
However, I was just referring to personal motivation to push on in the game, and the intensity added by being amongst a war, not just the one man wonder you are during the rest of it.
I think it's a perfect end to the BioShock brand, but it's not like they couldn't make more. I hope they don't, but it's a huge brand, and they'd have to start from fresh if they didn't make another.
I really want to see this damnable ending already. I can't imagine it'd surprise me considering what I already think the game is all about, but people keep saying it will. We'll see!
Vire
Member
It may not surprise you in what it's about, but how its executed. And there is no way of knowing that until you see it.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
So far I'm pretty confident this will be a good year all around, especially with the new consoles, GTAV, and TLoU coming out.
You know what I've actually spent the most overall time playing this year? Pinball Arcade. Don't laugh.
So, real talk - you like this better than Tomb Raider, right?
One thing I didn't like is that the game fell into the old "both sides just as bad" baloney.
After all the build up about the horrors of the company town, Pinkertons busting unions, 16 hour work days, company stores, etc. I was pretty impressed. Not too many modern pieces of media discuss this (let alone games) it's a huge part of our history. Workers' rights has been equated with socialism in the U.S. at least.
Then, without all that much justification, the Vox become your primary cannon fodder and at one point Booker even says something like "Comstock and Fitzroy, both equally bad". It really undercut the message for me and felt like a cop out.
Then, without all that much justification, the Vox become your primary cannon fodder and at one point Booker even says something like "Comstock and Fitzroy, both equally bad". It really undercut the message for me and felt like a cop out.
You're right. The game didn't leave enough of an impact on me to make me obsess over every detail which I'm assuming is taking place in the spoiler thread right now. I'm sure there are parts that I didn't pick up on early in the game.
Fine Ham Abounds said:So, real talk - you like this better than Tomb Raider, right?
Oh definitely. That's the worst game I've played this year by far. And I don't blame you with the pinball game, sometimes I get the most enjoyment out of something small or random like that compared to AAA games.
The Librarian
Banned
@Stump: If you say so.
What do you think the ending is, out of interest? I won't confirm either way of course. And best spoiler tag it, but it'd be interesting to see how close you are.
One thing I love about the ending, it doesn't do the typical twist thing of flashing back to instances of foreshadowing. I always hated the WYK flashbacks, as if you can't remember them yourself.
That entire scene was so great. That's how you do a scripted set piece moment.