Wind's Howling
Member
But the story and atmosphere touched upon so many points like religion, race equality and rich vs poor mentality that it still felt like the better game because of that, despite the fact that the combat was nowhere better.
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Bioshock Infinite |OT| No Gods, Kings, or Irrational Games
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But the story and atmosphere touched upon so many points like religion, race equality and rich vs poor mentality that it still felt like the better game because of that, despite the fact that the combat was nowhere better.
Visualante2
Member
I actually liked how Infinite's equality themes were back drops for the action. If it were most other games they would make a real effort to show how mature we are as writers, tackling these risqué topics. Bioshock's happy to let you appreciate the context or just walk right by once you complete the prologue.
It's something I've been thinking about lately. Like.. does it spoil the experience knowing you're in the final act. I mean you can tell with a book from holding it, and from a movie by flicking your mouse on VLC.. but I think it takes away from a game if you keep track of your progress like it's calories. I've said I think the game's crescendo was a little long but when the final act happened
and I wasn't really expecting it that feeling of having the rug swept out from beneath me just added to the experience.
LegendOfGood
Member
I think it's because people are anxious to get to the ending to find out the answers to their questions...
The only thing missing is the audio component. You can barely hear any wind or metal grinding. Mirror's Edge's falling audio was much more satisfying.
Visualante2
Member
That might have been a conscious decision, so you can hear the enemies around the arena. It was especially useful knowing how far away a handy man was. I found them very difficult to keep track of.
It really is amazing. I just started to be able to use them and they are exhilarating.
Wind's Howling
Member
You find the combat of Infinite better then the combat in Bioshock? In Bioshock you could lay traps everywhere. Each environment you entered had a multitude of options you could use where as in infinite the only thing that made it fun were the skylines. I am not bashing the game because I absolutely loved it but the combat in Infinite was pretty lackluster.
Wind's Howling
Member
You can but the majority of the enemies you encounter hide in cover and barely get out of it, making traps pretty useless.
Misterinenja
Member
Goddamn @
.
Playing on hard and it's one of the most frustrating pieces of shit in recent memory. I can barely keep myself alive for 30 seconds.
the stupid ghost bossfight at the graveyard
Playing on hard and it's one of the most frustrating pieces of shit in recent memory. I can barely keep myself alive for 30 seconds.
Just finished the game on hard mode. It was an incredible experience, definitely going through it again to relive the story and look for the extra collectibles. One question though, do upgrades carry over to new games?
Also just have to say
Also just have to say
Fuck the Siren, can't believe how many damn times I died due to that stupid thing, the later encounters weren't so bad but the one in the graveyard was agonizing.
CambriaRising
Member
Get ready to
face her again two more times.
This game on hard needed some better balancing. Part of the problem is that you are impossibly strapped for cash which prevented me from buying any upgrades to my vigors. They are just too expensive.
Visualante2
Member
Not the patriots.. and not so much the rebels who tend to charge you quite a lot. You also get a vigour which is pretty satisfying to drag enemies into.
Not to mention the choke points in the final act.
From where you start that fight, there's a crypt in the corner where you can camp and whittle away at her. It has a tear with medkits. Lady Comstock is the only enemy who will try to enter. If you kill her minions fast enough from that spot she won't get much of a chance to harm you. Ammo is the only concern at that point.
Misterinenja
Member
Damn. Just beat it after getting that post out of my system. All my money down to drain though. Can't say I'm looking forward to that.
CambriaRising
Member
Makes even less sense when if you have 0 cash, there is no further penalty it seems.
Punishment. cuz I don't think they did that for Bioshock 1 and it made dying not that big a deal even more.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Will be streaming on twitch soon, just gotta finish downloading it, currently on intermission.
Watch my shitty stream here http://www.twitch.tv/kingdoms_snsd
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But your enemies stay dead. It's funny you have that stance, because it's basically Vita chambers, and people hated them for being 'baby mode' or whatever.
Perservere my friend.
What helped me was to throw a bunch of charged Return to Sender traps in front of the generator to act as shields. What I also did was use Songbird on the ground troops first then Zeppelins as the cooldown time after clearing the deck is significantly less than after attacking Zeppelins. The Zeppelins are just there, the threat is the forces attacking the generator.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
You get so much money that even the hit from respawning in 1999 mode isn't an issue after like the first hour.
What are you guys upgrading, by the way, when you get infusions? I've been splitting all three categories (hp, shield, salt) but I get a feeling I should go for a focus. Maybe just more salt.
What are you guys upgrading, by the way, when you get infusions? I've been splitting all three categories (hp, shield, salt) but I get a feeling I should go for a focus. Maybe just more salt.
The Librarian
Banned
Excellent. Also, Stub, you're following this OT closely because this game is awesome and you want to know what I think of the game every step of the way. DUR.
Buckethead
Banned
I absolutely love the game but the story isn't doing much for me.
Probably 10-12 hours in.
About to
Probably 10-12 hours in.
About to
visit the cemetery to pay my respects to Lady Comstock.
Misterinenja
Member
Why not just have a decent checkpoint system? The whole dying and respawning routine middle of fight is so awkward.
I guess they don't want you to see a game over screen but I don't think this ridiculous animation is any better.
Edit: I don't wanna sound too negative on the game. I'm actually really enjoying it. Its gameplay shortcomings are just a bit too annoying to me.
rangersfan414
Member
Just finished it.
So confused.
So confused.
I wish the story would have focused on one of those ideas instead of trying to juggle all of them. The religious angle was most interesting to me. I feel like Bioshocks story is more coherent and consistent in its themes.
Its pretty hard to miss even if you explore half assedly. =P
Indeed, I'm envious, I'll never play Infinite again for a first time. It's living vicariously.
Regarding the guitar...
Is there a piano thing I missed? I think I saw Elizabeth's VA credited for singing a song on piano in the credits.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
That graveyard fight was pretty brutal.
I started by using Return to Sender along with the Crank Gun which gets her down to almost half and when you throw the ball of sender it can take her down quite a bit as well. Then I wait for her to resurrect a army around her in a circle and as soon as they spawn I did Bucking Bronco + Devils Kiss w/ the chain equipment on. It takes her down to almost nothing. Then I scoured for Salts and did the Return to Sender again along with your weapon of choice and she should be done.
This should help:
Similar. For me, I'm torn between loving the setting and being annoyed by the story/plot. I think the story team tried to tackle way too much all at once. There are three or four major story threads unfolding from the get-go, and I feel like you as the player just get juggled from one hand to another--purely for the sake of keeping every thread aloft at the same time.
Cutting multiplayer was wise, and I imagine was a big decision. IMO they should have also been willing to go further and cut some extraneous singleplayer levels (like all of the Fink areas, and probably the Slate stuff, too) and superfluous storylines (too many to name). By the second main area, I didn't have a very clear sense for what was at stake, why I should care, and what the most important overall goal was. There was simply too much too soon. For most of the game, it was purely the incredible visuals and the rich setting that carried me from one place to another, not the jumbled story.
All my contemporaries missed it. And they missed out big time.
Yeah you can get better at the game by practicing but that shouldn't include being gimped even further.
Misterinenja
Member
Man fuck...
Clicked that and immediately realized what it was and my eye caught just the worst possible sentence there.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Why in the world would you click that?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I started playing 6pm and it's now 10:30pm. I've played for 4h 30 min and
. Am I just incredibly slow or is
I just met 'Liz
she supposed to be introduced this late into the game?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Yeah they take their time building up to her.
I think you're just slow lol, but that's ok... enjoy the atmosphere. It's a great game!
It took me about that long as well. I probably spent about 18 hours on the game, which is more than it took most people.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
My final play-time: 22hours
Granted it was on 1999 but man I was moving slow through this game. Didn't want to miss anything.
Pretty normal; especially if you're trying to take in the early atmosphere.