I didn't have winter shield, so I abused the hell out of the decoy and the crows. When I saw him getting close I jumped on a skyline and created distance to let my shields recharge. Then went back to the decoy. I kept doing loops of the area. This was such a tense battle, because I used up every weapon around, and had to finish him off with a burstgun of all things. Then I noticed there was another rpg at the top of the area (you can only reach this via skyline). Still, easier than encounter n°2 because there's more space...
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Bioshock Infinite |OT| No Gods, Kings, or Irrational Games
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I didn't have winter shield, so I abused the hell out of the decoy and the crows. When I saw him getting close I jumped on a skyline and created distance to let my shields recharge. Then went back to the decoy. I kept doing loops of the area. This was such a tense battle, because I used up every weapon around, and had to finish him off with a burstgun of all things. Then I noticed there was another rpg at the top of the area (you can only reach this via skyline). Still, easier than encounter n°2 because there's more space...
The Librarian
Banned
Oh, that's cool. In the entrance to the
, there's a used cigar next to a chair, and you can see the smoke rising from it.
Good Time Club
show me your skeleton
Member
will the circle be unbroken is gorgeous.
Yeah the battle definitely has that going for it. The second battle outside the factory has been the most intense fight so far (dont get me wrong, I had a blast) but I lucked out big time because the HM got caught on something and I was able to take him out from a distance with the Carbine.
Jinjo
Member
Hmm, that sucks. It's pretty amazing in all Handyman encounters since there always is a skyline you can exploit. I guess it could still work as he can't catch you on the zipline and you're on it for such a short time he won't electrocute it (only use the straight bit near the bank entrance). Just make sure you jump away fast enough (before he reaches you), the decoy helps a lot, also stunning him with vigors on the non-decoy side should give you some extra time.
Shake Appeal
Member
This is my favourite fight in the game, I think. Good skylines, lots of stuff to play with in the area, and the Handymen fights are the ones where you really have to think quickly and prioritize targets.
I have had the song stuck in my head since I first heard it. It blew my mind that Ken wrote it himself. I thought it was a song I had heard before and was impressed that they found something so fitting for the game. I had no idea it was original.
I'm also getting my art book today. Can't wait.
Agreed. Really frustrating when I have to dash, but can't without losing X amount of play. Checkpoints definitely should have been more frequent.
cleveridea
Member
What do people recommend to upgrade in 1999 mode - health, shields or salt?
I imagine shields > health due to shields regenerating. So I imagine its shields (good for when cover is available) or salt (eg for when stunlocks are needed)
I never upgraded salts on my normal play through so far so I dont know how significant it is.
Plan on a new 1999 mode play through, hope its not too difficult to kill the fun though...
I imagine shields > health due to shields regenerating. So I imagine its shields (good for when cover is available) or salt (eg for when stunlocks are needed)
I never upgraded salts on my normal play through so far so I dont know how significant it is.
Plan on a new 1999 mode play through, hope its not too difficult to kill the fun though...
Shake Appeal
Member
I think I finished with Health 3, Shield 10, Salts 9 or something. In hindsight, I should have upgraded Salts faster, as they are where the fun is. Not upgrading Salts would make the combat so much duller.
Keyser Soze
Member
There is a chance to glitch the game and not have him appear at all. Not sure how I did it, but, I killed all the enemies (using mostly possession) and when the final guy suicides , Liz went to open the gate.
Jinjo
Member
Put everything into shields and salts. I never upgraded my health until I maxed out my shields and put more than enough in salts. Definitely favour shields a bit more over salts too. And hope you get lucky in finding the shield regenerating gear early (it has a chance of appearing for the first time in the area after the beach. Reloading checkpoint changes the gear you get sometimes. Upgrade charge aid when you first get it to start abusing the hell out of your shields.
Wow, I thought it was just some lesser known verse of Amazing Grace or something... I guess that's what he was going for.
Keyser Soze
Member
Is 1999 mode harder than Hard mode?
I have not tried it, but with you guys talking about it I kinda want to.
Is the game itself harder, or is it just the money/receive limits that make the game harder?
I have not tried it, but with you guys talking about it I kinda want to.
Is the game itself harder, or is it just the money/receive limits that make the game harder?
Conciliator
Banned
Err, that song is not an original. It's a protestant hymn. It is great, though.
lol should have known.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
Oh my gosh.
It's not an original. It's an old hymn.
I'm kindof bewildered that there are people thinking it's an Irrational creation.
Keyser Soze
Member
"Will the Circle Be Unbroken?" is actually one of the more time-correct song in the game. It fits the game in the real-life time line as it is from the early 1900s
Haven't noticed much difference from Hard outside of slightly tighter money intake. I guess the penalty for reviving is stiffer, but I haven't died so far (up to
Good Times Club
Maxing out Salt makes the combat so much better. That and knowing enemy placements.
cleveridea
Member
how much salt do you start with on 1999 mode vs normal?
On normal I get 2 full bars for possession, which becomes 4 with an upgrade soon after on normal...
On normal I get 2 full bars for possession, which becomes 4 with an upgrade soon after on normal...
Yeah it's a great area with a lot of possibilities to take guys out.
It's funny how after 1999 mode, you know the arenas and their lay-out way better than on normal, especially if there's a handyman in them. The fact that we're numbering HM encounters and remember them perfectly, says enough. On normal, I wasn't keeping track. They were the big dudes I had to kill, not a big threat. Some fights just gain a large amount of depth because of 1999.
I mean, on normal I didn't even know there was a tesla coil at the back of the final finkton encounter.
There are people that stress upgrading health, but as most of the others here, I'd bank on shields and salts. Final stats for me: shields 10, vigors 10, health 4. On 1999, vigors are your friend. Early on, be sure to invest in the crow trap upgrade (1000+, worth the price). Then, later on, possess for less and charge aid are worth the high price. Depending on the situation though, every vigor is useful. Sky battle with air ships you can board? Bronco + undertow blast is gold. In a closed off arena? Upgrade crows and chain traps together, make em scream. Possession is great to start off the battle and create some chaos. Later on, I appreciated chain jockey as well. Multiple stun + head shot with carbine feels great.
Devil's kiss was often my 'cherry on top'. If I saw 3 guys with crows above their head, I topped it off with some fire. If bronco put some guys in the air, make fireworks. The list goes on. The combat in this game man.
Same on 1999. You can possess twice.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Posted a little strategy on how to easily beat the graveyard fight in 1999 mode. I'm sure people have figured some of this stuff out already or have come up with a better strategy, but I barely played it yesterday. Spoilers obviously...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52221789&postcount=6429
I read some of the posts on this page and apparently I have a second fight like that coming up? Oh boy...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=52221789&postcount=6429
I read some of the posts on this page and apparently I have a second fight like that coming up? Oh boy...
The Librarian
Banned
Kind of glad the film showing
Chen Lin isn't all that clear, because he looks to be in terrible shape.
...
cleveridea
Member
oh sweet! definitely looking forward to restarting in 1999 mode.
The Librarian
Banned
So I'm in the
:/ Yeesh.
cells under the Good Time Club, and I just saw Slate.
Dragon1893
Member
So this should be arriving at the office this morning...
Amazon.uk is telling me it's only out on April 9. Did the US get it earlier?
Well Amazon emailed me over the weekend saying that the shipping date changed from the 11th. It says it will be delivered tomorrrow but tracking says its arriving today. Nice suprise.
Dragon1893
Member
Oh well, I haven't finished the game yet so I wouldn't be able to check it out because of spoilers but I'm dying to have it. An artbook based on this game is bound to be mindblowing.
I missed your posts with your impressions of the game, did it meet your expectations? I'm loving the hell out of it.
Exceeded expectations. Its my fav game this gen next to the original and easily made my top ten of all time.
Ken Levine wrote that song? Wow. Was certain it was some old folk song or something. impressive.
Uh, no. It's an old christian hymn.
The song about Columbia, how could he have 'found it'?
It's cool though, Synecdoche, New York ends with a song written by the writer/director, called Little Persons (I think?), it's wonderful. It's also pretty much the best film ever, so everyone should watch it.
EDIT: Thinking about it, how did they not use Come Josephine in My Flying Machine? It was the biggest hit of 1911, and it's about a flying machine, sure fire win.
"Look how we fly through the sky so high", it's like it was written for the game.
It's cool though, Synecdoche, New York ends with a song written by the writer/director, called Little Persons (I think?), it's wonderful. It's also pretty much the best film ever, so everyone should watch it.
EDIT: Thinking about it, how did they not use Come Josephine in My Flying Machine? It was the biggest hit of 1911, and it's about a flying machine, sure fire win.
"Look how we fly through the sky so high", it's like it was written for the game.
The Librarian
Banned
Well, that was one depressing trip.
Poor Chen Lin.
show me your skeleton
Member
mine was sent on the 28th i think? i have it right now & will take a few photos of some of the cut stuff if people would like?
The penalty for dying in 1999 is substantially harsher. It isn't just the money - when you die in 1999, enemies are reverted to full health. Get a certain boss down to literally a millimeter's worth of health, and you die, they go back to full.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_the_Circle_Be_Unbroken?
Yeah, the fact that the lyrics fit thematically in multiple ways, and that it actually came out right around the period of time that the game takes place really made it a perfect song.
Yeah, the fact that the lyrics fit thematically in multiple ways, and that it actually came out right around the period of time that the game takes place really made it a perfect song.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Sooo... this essay deserves it's own thread.
Rumor has it Ken Levine invented the zeppelin.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
And the blathysphere.
Voice of Reason
Banned
And nice tits.
Keyser Soze
Member
Ken also invented the Quadricycle
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Breaking down American Exceptionalism and Manifest Destiny into modern conservate/liberal camps is not doing it justice.
I think Levine is a very astute student of history, and that kind of dichotomy is high school level commentary at best. It's beneath him.
I think Levine is a very astute student of history, and that kind of dichotomy is high school level commentary at best. It's beneath him.
Ah, okay. Was about to say Levine is in the wrong business if he wrote that :lol
HueyFreeman
Banned
There's so much more going on in that essay than simply a dichotomization of American history. And I'm not saying it should be taken as rote. Having said that, the American political system is dichotomous - does it really not make sense to analyze the game that way?
Regardless there's a lot of really interesting ideas he has about Infinite, that are entirely outside of the pure political analysis. Did you read the whole thing?
FlutterPuffs
Member
So this should be arriving at the office this morning...
I just got mine! Some parts are great, but they don't go into detail on how they finalised the details of certain things, especially Elizabeth.