I think the problem is the small FOV. You can never see where the skylines are heading, thus you can't really use them apart from going to and fro short pieces as a way of getting a lower chance to be hit and some instakills.
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Bioshock Infinite |OT| No Gods, Kings, or Irrational Games
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I think the problem is the small FOV. You can never see where the skylines are heading, thus you can't really use them apart from going to and fro short pieces as a way of getting a lower chance to be hit and some instakills.
Yeah, the setting can hardly be considered a risk, as a nice setting and visuals are a huge selling point of many games.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Sort of wish there was a NG+ mode for beating 1999. Haven't replayed the game at all since beating it a week ago, so pardon me if there is such a thing.
May go through it again on Easy just to pick up the 1-3 collectibles I missed (one Voxophone and a couple for the sight-seer achievement) and pick up the remaining numeral-based combat achievements.
But it's a game I don't want to rush back into or get hot and heavy in spoiler discussions over it.
May go through it again on Easy just to pick up the 1-3 collectibles I missed (one Voxophone and a couple for the sight-seer achievement) and pick up the remaining numeral-based combat achievements.
But it's a game I don't want to rush back into or get hot and heavy in spoiler discussions over it.
I appreciate those suggestions, and I've actually played all those games you listed.
DMC is good..I guess..but feels very, idk, video gamey?
Dishonored-it's setting is way to dreary grey depressing for me.
Deus Ex: HR- I feel like the only good city was Shanghai (the asian one). The rest were either really small (like the montreal level, or Singapore), or just meh (Detroit was meh for me). I didn't really care for the art direction either
Assassins Creed-I like the setting, even though I'm not a huge historical buff person. I find that the cities lack identity sometimes (hard to tell them apart sometimes) and become copy/paste in some city blocks. Puts me off
Alan Wake-I actually really dug alan wakes setting. The only issue I have with it though is that it failed to NAIL the twin peaks vibe and feeling. I honestly felt deadly premonition did a far better job in that regard.
Honestly, my favorite setting/art direction are these:
Batman Arkham Asylum
Kingdom Hearts
Red Dead Redemption
Tell Tales: Walking Dead
Bioshock 1 (favorite out of all these)
Silent Hill 2, 3, and 4
Uncharted 2
Portal
Fable 2
Deadly Premenotion
I don't know how many games look like this. Honestly, the world just REEKS of Ken Levine signature mark, and many games fail to produce those visuals/setting.
I mean, this is an early screenshot, but just look how VIBRANT, COLORFUL, full of life and fantasy this 1 screenshot can bring. I struggle to do that for most games honestly.
It's funny you mention this. In another thread, someone was complaining about Tomb Raider/Far Cry 3 outright listing the collectibles and side quests. There's definitely something gamey about lists, but for the collector, it sure does come in handy.
Can you redo things in a new playthrough, or does it reset the achievements?
Finished 1999 and got scavenger hunt achievement. I'll probably do a normal run soon to get the remaining achievements, I'm close enough now that I feel compelled to get them all. The last area wasn't nearly as difficult as I thought it would be. Blood to Salt was the very last gear I got though which was annoying. Also annoyed I missed an infusion, still haven't gotten them all in one playthrough.
Huh. Where was this in the game?
I've played Bioshock 2. The gameplay is all about setting up traps as you wait for enemies to come and rush into small rooms. Infinite isn't really like that. Sure there's traps but the environments are usually much bigger, enemies don't run into a straight line toward a single point, and you don't have time to set up traps before triggering a timed objective. Would you rather the third game in a series share absolutely nothing with its predecessors?
Huh. Where was this in the game?
None, the setting is truly stellar. Also the first good use of the god ray. But you said that they took a risk with it
FlutterPuffs
Member
He has a point. It has that shiny happy aesthetic that isn't really much used and considered appealing for 'gamers'.
Normally games targeted to young adults and above like Infinite will have this dark, gritty aesthetic.
Yes, I know about what happens in the 2nd half of the game but it's not what's used to promote Infinite
That scene is amazing. Beautiful color and an abundance of detail. I love how the other islands in the background look.
The box art is literally a gritty white guy with a gun standing by a burning flag.
I prefer them. It's one thing that I think it boils down to personal taste, so my personal taste on the matter is that in-game list prevent me from alt+tabbing into some web page.
Finished it last night and let it sink in a bit. Columbia is one of the most creatively abundant game worlds I've been in since...well, probably Rapture. From the title screen to the final cut scene the game continuously hits the player with evocative imagery and imaginative design.
I don't agree with the sentiment that the middle dragged. It seemed like an integral bridge between how the game begins and what happens during the final third of the game. Plus it was fun! I had fun scavenging, learning about Columbia, fucking with vigors, etc.
Now to decide whether or not to bite on that season pass...
I don't agree with the sentiment that the middle dragged. It seemed like an integral bridge between how the game begins and what happens during the final third of the game. Plus it was fun! I had fun scavenging, learning about Columbia, fucking with vigors, etc.
Now to decide whether or not to bite on that season pass...
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I'm on the defend the thing mission. Gameplay wise it might be the worst FPS game i've played this generation. At least Haze had a decent difficulty curve and Timeshift had some neat features that actually impacted the gameplay, and neither had problems of infinitely respawing enemies that took 2 full damn clips right into the head to kill anyone, at least that I can remember.
I mean I didn't expect it to have more than mediocre gunplay, but I didn't think some of the scenarios they put you through would be actively terrible, hampered further by an atrocious checkpoint system.
I mean I didn't expect it to have more than mediocre gunplay, but I didn't think some of the scenarios they put you through would be actively terrible, hampered further by an atrocious checkpoint system.
Funny, because there's no infinitely spawning enemies in Infinite either!
lmao...only on gaf can you find ppl who said something like this and praising Haze.
Riposte
Member
You probably shouldn't call a game the worst ever because you are keep dying at it.
x-post from the spoiler thread (no spoilers):
Both those videos are the same music/song, but one is sped up more. At 800% it sounds like a guy singing softly. At 1000% it sounds like a woman singing. I scrubbed through some of my recordings for more, but it seems it's the same song repeated in multiple sections of the game. In some areas, like the one in the Gamesradar video, some of the middle part is cut out.
I'm not sure if this is the most complete version, but here it is at 10x, 8x, and 1x: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK74rxBDd-I
The Librarian
Banned
Man, I don't know what I'm going to think of myself if I go through this game without getting all the voxophones. I know I probably missed one already if there was one in that
first cipher
Going to play for another 30 - 45 minutes right now.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
I'm pretty sure that 3 stage boss battle counts as infinitely spawning enemies. And now on the defense section, the second that you kill the patriots it literally instantly spawns new ones until you take out the zeppelins.
I'm not complaining about the challenge though. I'm complaining about the type of challenge, and the fact that challenge is increadibly uneven. It's just extremely poor pacing to have commonly spawned enemies lasting for more than a full clip of any gun, even with headshots. And I didn't call it the worst ever, just the worst gameplaywise of the FPSs I've happened to play this current generation, specifically for the boss and defense sections. Its a genre where serviceable gunplay is very very easy to come by.
Maybe I'm just missing some big element to make everything fall in place, or maybe I spec'd in the wrong direction, but that's just been my personal experience. The skylines are kindof a cool way to jump from different cover to get new vantage points on enemy cover
The vigors
Anyone feel the voxophones weren't as well implemented as the audio recordings in the original? I feel in Infinite it's too easy to miss crucial plot information because you didn't find a voxophone tucked away in a corner somewhere. I think they did a better job in the original of making sure the player wouldn't miss an audio recording if it was vital to the plot. And it's not like I didn't explore, far from it. I took my time searching every nook and cranny and just taking in the atmosphere, and I still had a missing voxophone or two by the end of my 2nd playthrough that would have made a few plot details make much more sense.
I don't really agree, but I can understand this sentiment. Infinite's plot isn't very straight forward to begin with.
Worth it. And the guide is really nice with transcripts of all the Voxophones as well and stats for all enemies and a catalog of the guns.
The Librarian
Banned
About 15+ hours into the game. A lot happened.
The combat space right outside the Lady Airship was fun, but sometimes I'd hop down and not be able to get back on the skyrails immediately because I couldn't find a certain point. Got a little annoying.
It's a lot of fun to have an RPG in hand and blast your enemies away as you're riding the skyrails.
Can't believe Elizabeth murdered Fitzroy, and what an end to Fink. Though why did Fitzroy wait through that battle to murder the kid? I understand this universe a lot better, but none of this still explains why everyone wasn't in gasps when they saw Booker seeing as how he's supposed to be a martyr.
I love the little details in this game. The bloody handkerchief on your hand, Elizabeth's clothes getting dirtier....
This HM fight was easier than the first.
It's a lot of fun to have an RPG in hand and blast your enemies away as you're riding the skyrails.
Can't believe Elizabeth murdered Fitzroy, and what an end to Fink. Though why did Fitzroy wait through that battle to murder the kid? I understand this universe a lot better, but none of this still explains why everyone wasn't in gasps when they saw Booker seeing as how he's supposed to be a martyr.
I love the little details in this game. The bloody handkerchief on your hand, Elizabeth's clothes getting dirtier....
This HM fight was easier than the first.
cleveridea
Member
is there any way to get the preorder DLC now?
When games are $60 I typically wait for reviews and/or impressions before jumping in...
When games are $60 I typically wait for reviews and/or impressions before jumping in...
Square Triangle
Member
This artbook is fascinating. So many gruesome enemies that didn't make the cut and interesting ideas getting chopped.
cleveridea
Member
yeah its a shame there isnt more commentary since it was quite fascinating seeing how different the original ideas were, and for example using a generic grounded city vs in the sky
EatChildren
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Platform? You can buy a Stream code for the DLC season pass (all three packs) on Green Man Gaming for ~$24.
The Librarian
Banned
YES! And the shooting is great!
Shooting is not disappointing. It's better than the previous games.
EatChildren
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I thought the shooting was pretty rubbish in BioShock, better in BioShock 2, and easily at its best in Infinite. It feels tighter, more satisfying, and smarter in combat design.
If you liked the other two, this one will blow you the fuck away.
And the gunplay and combat is excellent and a hell of a lot fun.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Definitely. If you enjoyed BioShock then you'll likely enjoy Infinite. The shooting gameplay isn't amazing but it is certainly better than Bioshock and when you're combining the shooting with Vigors, its very fun.
In both of those sections there is a limited amount of enemies. There's a lot no doubt, but there are zero infinite respawns in this game. The Patriots later on
arrive on barges, that, if you time right the Bird can take out. I finished that battle on 1999 and the third wave of Pats didnt even show up.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I am having the same problem. I am killing myself trying to finish Tomb Raider (I think the game is great) but I keep thinking of Columbia and playing more of Infinite.
Haunted
Member
It's not uncommon for sound designers to just take an existing song (sample) and slow it down to create a kind of unsettling creepy long drawn out atmospheric ambient sound.
Works very well with a lot of different sounding samples and it's a common technique. Especially back when you had limited space available for that stuff, re-using the same tracks at different speeds was economic.
Well this is ironic--finishing Bioshock Infinite has made me excited about first-person shooters again so I bought a few that were on sale recently (Hard Reset, Metro 2033, Painkiller H&D, Borderlands 2).
So I've played a bit of Hard Reset but so far I just find myself wishing I was playing Infinite instead. Or that at least there was an AI partner hanging around and tossing me coins and shit.
Going to try Metro next but going in with much lowered expectations lest I regret adding all these games to my backlog.
So I've played a bit of Hard Reset but so far I just find myself wishing I was playing Infinite instead. Or that at least there was an AI partner hanging around and tossing me coins and shit.
Going to try Metro next but going in with much lowered expectations lest I regret adding all these games to my backlog.
I was actually thinking of giving Resistance 3 a whirl since its supposed to be one of the better SP campaigns this gen. I just hope I dont start it, and then ten minutes later pop it out and revisit Columbia. (Not that that would be a bad thing per say)