I'm not very familiar with mobile GPUs, but that looks pretty decent to me.
You should be able to max this out. Not 60fps, though.
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Bioshock Infinite |OT| No Gods, Kings, or Irrational Games
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You should be able to max this out. Not 60fps, though.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Where is this information coming from? There's a 2-weapon limit on console but not on PC? That's unprecedented. And using a pad on PC eliminates the option? What's going on?
Burgess_101
Member
You'll be fine, just turn off AA and fiddle with the settings until you get a decent framerate.
phantomspiker
Member
Same here, I stick to what I think works the best.
Have you seen some PS3 footage and compared if the versions are alike? (for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkQSmW5_Dmc)
I'm still hesitant between picking the 360 or the PS3 version.
Likewise
CambriaRising
Member
No way that the game's design fundamentally changes if you play with a controller on PC.
Which weapons does it keep if you do?
Do those weapons just drop?
What if I press F12 to take a screenshot, then go back to my controller?
Will it switch as seemlessly as other games?
I just don't think it will be like that. If there is a 2 weapon limit, I am pretty sure it will be on the Pc version as well.
Nope.
i'd like to see some move impressions as well
PC it is then! Thanks!
IDK if this is sarcastic or not, but GFWL is pretty much dead.
Burgess_101
Member
IGN review said it wasn't a problem on PC so I presume there isn't any limitations with the keyboard.
electricpirate
Member
From what I read it sounded like this
In both versions you can hold all weapons in your inventory.
In the console version you can only "Equip" two weapons at a time, and swtich with a button.
To change the "Equipped weapons" you have to bring up a menu that pauses the game.
So in a firefight, it mostly plays like you have a two weapon limit, but you could in theory switch out at any time, same with plasmids.
On the PC there's no need for this, since you can have all your weapons available all the time available via hotkeys.
In both versions you can hold all weapons in your inventory.
In the console version you can only "Equip" two weapons at a time, and swtich with a button.
To change the "Equipped weapons" you have to bring up a menu that pauses the game.
So in a firefight, it mostly plays like you have a two weapon limit, but you could in theory switch out at any time, same with plasmids.
On the PC there's no need for this, since you can have all your weapons available all the time available via hotkeys.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
I just read the relevant part of the IGN review, and he says that when using a controller, you can only hot swap between two weapons. You have to "pause" the game to get at the rest.
If he's just talking about the menu that pops up and freezes the action, that's just like Bioshock 1 with a gamepad and it doesn't bother me at all. If he means you have to fiddle around in a menu, equipping shit to your hot key, that seems crazy to me. That would be a big step back in design.
But at least it's clear from his description that you do keep all your weapons at all times. It's not a Halo situation.
Forgot about that. I was playing BS2 and it did keep crashing on me. :/.
360 version it is.
CambriaRising
Member
This would make a lot more sense for sure.
Right, thats what I thought. That isn't such a huge issue. I am sure they came up with the hot swap button in order to help keep a quick pace for lack of buttons.
That's what I thought too but some people who have played the game have said you only have a menu for vigors, strict two weapon limit for guns. It's really weird and makes no sense. I don't know who to believe.
It's a mix of that IGN review and GAF poster Maddog, who's beaten the game on consoles. It does seem pretty unprecedented and I found it amazing for just that reason.
If true, you're looking at a huge difference: being limited to two weapons at ANY TIME on consoles (i.e. you have to drop what you're carrying to pick up a new weapon, which Boddog confirmed), versus having every single weapon you've picked up at your disposal at any time on PC.
Can that actually be how it is? Nuts if so.
And I have no idea what effect plugging a pad into your PC would have on that, especially if you start off a session with kb/m then just stick a pad in. Like, how would that even work on weapons you're carrying?
Don't ask me.
jim2point0
Banned
In mods we trust.
No seriously. Spoilers will get you banned and edited in a matter of seconds. You'd have to watch the thread like a HAWK to see a spoiler.
That's the impression I get. Makes me feel safe.
The confusion is that there's apparently no menu for weapons on consoles, radial or otherwise. You have to drop a weapon to pick up a new one once you hit the 2-weapon limit.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
The crucial question for me is whether it's just an overlay that pops up or if it's a Resident Evil briefcase situation, where you pause, have to select items, then hit a button to equip, and so on. I mean, it's not a huge deal if the menu is quick, but it would be an odd change.
It is two weapons and two abilities hot keyed at any one time, with the rest on a radial wheel that you can select from. A compromise for consoles, but one I am used to. I don't mind a wheel.
Again, there's apparently no such radial menu for weapons (only for vigors), at least according to Maddog. I have no idea whether that's true or not.
Superimposer
This is getting weirder all the time
It's hard to say on the basis of that video. That's the opening of the game where nothing really hardware-intensive happens. There is no clear answer after watching that... so I guess it's close.
On another note, even if we know there's a weapon limit on consoles, who even said it's not on PC as well in the first place? No way there's a difference. PS3 may edge it if anything.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
So are you saying the PC version would operate the same way as Bioshock 1 with a gamepad, with a hot swap button AND a radial pop-up that pauses the action?
I really can't believe they'd alter the design so dramatically between versions. Isn't 2-weapon vs. full loadout a central issue in shooter design?
Maddog also said you have to beat the game to unlock 1999 mode... but I guess it's easy to not know there's a code if you've been out of the pre-release info loop, which is entirely possible.
The IGN console review says nothing about being limited to 2 weapons. I think they'd have mentioned it as it's clearly new to Bioshock and antithetical to the game's expressive combat design.
Vasilisk 2038
Member
Goddam we need Move impressions!!
PRjumpman124
Member
We do?
Fried Food
Banned
just preordered the 360 version. The ps3 version will have to be much better in order for me to switch. I have a fresh 360 controller (official xbox controller for pc)
Hm, interesting. I just recall the wheel being brought up in the IGN video review and they said it pauses the game to allow you to select from other abilities beyond the two hot slots. But if it is just for Vigors, then I guess I will have to make do with two weapons at a time. Should be fine.
Good to hear. I'll probably keep v-sync enabled.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Shawn Elliott! OneLetter!
Please, tell us about this weapon selection situation!
Thanks!
Please, tell us about this weapon selection situation!
Thanks!
CambriaRising
Member
According to the Bioshock Wiki's Weapon section:
They must have gotten their information from somewhere because there are threads on the 2k forums dating back a year complaining about the change.
Ah, so the wheel is indeed only for Vigors. I'm fine with that.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
It would be ludicrous if the site that got the exclusive review spent a whole week jerking off about the game yet failed to notice a massive change to the weapon system and then also completely fabricated a weapon change menu.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Well, you have to consider this is IGN we're talking about here. Anything's possible.
I AM HERE TO CLEAR CONFUSION!
You can hold two weapons at a time, switching between them, and pick up different weapons to replace the weapons you're holding along the way. This is the same on console and PC.
For Vigors, on console, you can also hold any two for quick swapping, or load up the radial which will pause the game while you select your options. On PC, you can quickly select your other Vigors via 1, 2, 3, etc. keys, or you can use your mouse wheel. You can change the default keyboard controls also if you don't want 1, 2, 3, etc.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Thanks for the clarification. Whatever the weapon system is, I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't be playing an entirely different game by using a gamepad on my couch.
Thank you. Two weapons at a time actually makes sense when you factor in having to choose wisely for any given situation. Plus, with the Skyhook and Vigors at our disposal, I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities to experiment and approach combat scenarios differently. It sounds fine.
CambriaRising
Member
Superimposer
This is getting weirder all the time
So the IGN reviewer just made up this menu bullshit if there are only 2 weapons at any time anyway?
I should mention that during my playthroughs, I haven't really had any issue with not having the right weapon on me. When you're in various battles, there will be some weapons around, or Elizabeth can open a tear containing a different weapon. Also, enemies you fight will drop weapons as well, so there's always options depending on what you're looking for in the heat of the moment.
I trust in the gaming gods at Irrational to factor in balance. No worries.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
As long as the weapons are actually effective and I don't spend most of the back-half of the game using the wrench like BS1...
Busy day, sorry. Two weapons at a time is same on consoles and PC. Upgrades persist on weapons once you equip the relevant gear. So by tossing aside your handcannon to use an MG cos you have ammo for it at the time, then grabbing another Handcannon later won't eliminate your upgrade.