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Black Desert Online |OT| Come on in, the sand's fine [Mediah Update]

i'm trying to wrap my head around why I bought this game in the first place. I never ever ever played an MMO that I liked. This game is pretty cool though.
 

Mist

Banned
The main site doesn't seem to give a lot of information, so is there any trial? The game seems pretty cool, but I'd like to try it first before just buying it.
 

Anilusion

Member
Is the $50 edition worth it over the $30 one?

I'm sorry if this has already been asked a thousand times.

As far as I understand, you can buy the Horse Flute for the points you get for logging in every day, and you can tame the horse in game. The only thing you have to buy for real money is the pet, and they cost about $10. I bought the $30 version.
 

Twookie

Member
Is the $50 edition worth it over the $30 one?

I'm sorry if this has already been asked a thousand times.

as for someone who bought the $50 version, I'd say not really.

I atleast got the preorder bonuses so that made it worth it for me, but seeing as you can't get those anymore I wouldn't buy the 50 dollar version
 

LogN

Member
I really, really tried to like this game. I played all classes to level 20, none really sank their teeth into me. The other problem I had is that after not playing for a day or two, you forget your combos.

The crafting is tedious as is the mount management. Why can't we just make a good action MMO without all the cluttered fluff to make it complex? :(
 

Quonny

Member
I really, really tried to like this game. I played all classes to level 20, none really sank their teeth into me. The other problem I had is that after not playing for a day or two, you forget your combos.

The crafting is tedious as is the mount management. Why can't we just make a good action MMO without all the cluttered fluff to make it complex? :(
Have you tried Blade and Soul? Game is a pretty simple theme park action MMO that might be more up your alley. it doesn't have armor, you keep the same weapon throughout the whole game, etc. it doesn't even have crafting.
 

Fou-Lu

Member
I really, really tried to like this game. I played all classes to level 20, none really sank their teeth into me. The other problem I had is that after not playing for a day or two, you forget your combos.

The crafting is tedious as is the mount management. Why can't we just make a good action MMO without all the cluttered fluff to make it complex? :(

I kind of find myself agreeing. None of the classes are really for me and the crafting/gathering mechanics are awful. Though I actually want an MMO with that kind of thing... just better! I like a lot of the ideas for the world that are present and I might keep playing because my friends are into it but...
 

MoonGred

Member
I really, really tried to like this game. I played all classes to level 20, none really sank their teeth into me. The other problem I had is that after not playing for a day or two, you forget your combos.

The crafting is tedious as is the mount management. Why can't we just make a good action MMO without all the cluttered fluff to make it complex? :(

Having exactly the same issues when it comes to classes which make it really hard for me to get into the game. I still haven't gotten over the overwhelming amount of content and have a constant feeling that I'm doing things wrong which will make late game that much harder.
 

Twookie

Member
Having exactly the same issues when it comes to classes which make it really hard for me to get into the game. I still haven't gotten over the overwhelming amount of content and have a constant feeling that I'm doing things wrong which will make late game that much harder.

this so much, I'm at lvl 31 and I feel like I'm doing something very wrong: my character is underleveled to the enemies I fight so I have to backtrack to places where I have done all the combat quests and then farm mobs, even I've played like I would in any other MMO.
Maybe I need to grind out more mobs or something, but yeah, it's kinda offputting.

I have this weird mentality that I need to every quest that I see I can do (that gives exp/money) and normally that'd work in any other mmo I'd feel, but it doesn't in this game. There is sooooo much to do. I'm probably playing this game wrong...
sad.gif
 

Quonny

Member
Do whatever you want. Seriously, everyone needs to let go of the mentality of min-maxing, right-vs-wrong, and so on. There is literally no way to mess up your character or your world (you get a free skill reset at 45). There is no right path. We have people with dozens and dozens of hours played without leveling higher than 30. We have people who have done nothing but fish and trade. We have people who do nothing but explore.

Do quests if you want. Don't do quests if you don't want. Grind. Farm. Fish. Trade. Tame horses. Build up a workforce. Sail. Gather. It doesn't matter.

Just do whatever. I personally have played for probably a hundred hours and I'm not at the level cap. You can grind to the level cap in like 15 hours if that's your goal.
 

Ashodin

Member
SImilarly, the guild is not going to be all PVE or all PVP or whatever. If you want to make a faction of GAF that PVPs, that's your prerogative. We're just here to have fun and talk to each other while doing it.
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
I really can't get enough of this game. Even when I feel like I want to play something else, I can just minimize to system tray while I fish and still make progress. Too good.
 

aliengmr

Member
Gotta say, what stops this game from being really great is the cash shop. Really starting to prefer subscriptions with access to everything in game. Way too much stuff is locked behind a paywall.

I can deal with the fact that narratively, I have literally no idea what is going on, but let me change my horse's shitty name.
 

Noirulus

Member
this so much, I'm at lvl 31 and I feel like I'm doing something very wrong: my character is underleveled to the enemies I fight so I have to backtrack to places where I have done all the combat quests and then farm mobs, even I've played like I would in any other MMO.
Maybe I need to grind out more mobs or something, but yeah, it's kinda offputting.

I have this weird mentality that I need to every quest that I see I can do (that gives exp/money) and normally that'd work in any other mmo I'd feel, but it doesn't in this game. There is sooooo much to do. I'm probably playing this game wrong...
sad.gif

I had the same mentality. I did this up until level 21 and wore myself out of the game and started to resent it.

You gotta let go and just do whatever you find fun. If you enjoy leveling up, just do it. You can always farm contribution exp later on.
 

oxrock

Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
Gotta say, what stops this game from being really great is the cash shop. Really starting to prefer subscriptions with access to everything in game. Way too much stuff is locked behind a paywall.

I can deal with the fact that narratively, I have literally no idea what is going on, but let me change my horse's shitty name.

It's almost entirely cosmetic stuff being sold in premium market. The only "game breaking" item that even remotely grants power is a ghilli suit which hides your name. It's not like you can make a +500 enchanted weapon that one shots god because you poured $5k into the game.
 
More 'the little things' to add to the list of impressive additions in this game;

- When you are mining, the thump of your pick against the stone will rustle nearby grass, trees etc, even tents!
- Noticed the Khuruto on the edges of the farms will throw stones at the cows!
- Your pets run around chasing their own tail when idle

This game looks ALMOST like modded skyrim, but runs better. That's incredible.

In motion it looks ten times better. (As it should given the release dates).

Much higher poly counts, much better animation, lighting is much much better, the world is more alive (not just npc, but fog, sun rays/light shafts, blowing grass and trees, insects, falling leaves etc etc).
 

Matty8787

Member
Love the game but it is hard juggling time between this, The DIvision, work and kids!

I really need to start using the system tray function while playing other games, if only to keep my workers going.

To keep things fresh I tend to grind levels for 4-5 levels then quest in the nearby areas and then move to the next area.

Seems to keep things mixed up nicely.
 

Tuturu Jones

Neo Member
It's almost entirely cosmetic stuff being sold in premium market. The only "game breaking" item that even remotely grants power is a ghilli suit which hides your name. It's not like you can make a +500 enchanted weapon that one shots god because you poured $5k into the game.

But the stuff that isn't cosmetic is indeed locked behind a paywall, funny enough it's all related to mounts. The fact that horses can only breed on or twice is an obvious attempt at getting the player to buy a breeding reset or even having you name the horse before you know its gender. It's simply annoying stuff.

And to me, gamebreaking would be adding infinite gathering tools with reduced energy consumption, not that would be awful.
 

mintylurb

Member
Love the game but it is hard juggling time between this, The DIvision, work and kids!

I really need to start using the system tray function while playing other games, if only to keep my workers going.

To keep things fresh I tend to grind levels for 4-5 levels then quest in the nearby areas and then move to the next area.

Seems to keep things mixed up nicely.

Have to prioritize: black desert/division > work > kids.

Anyway, also made it to calpheon and it is indeed nice looking. FPS holds up surprisingly well: 40-50.
I suspect all those guest accounts expiring is helping with the frame rates.
 
Love the game but it is hard juggling time between this, The DIvision, work and kids!

I really need to start using the system tray function while playing other games, if only to keep my workers going.

To keep things fresh I tend to grind levels for 4-5 levels then quest in the nearby areas and then move to the next area.

Seems to keep things mixed up nicely.
have the kids level up your BDO characters? ;)
 

mintylurb

Member
It looks awesome but man does it kill my FPS.

Also it's a little hard to navigate. I usually just say fuck this and traverse the city throwing myself at the river.

How is your fps in calpheon? Although my framerate counter shows 40-50 fps, it feels so much more choppy than the numbers indicate.
 

Pheace

Member
To members of the EU guild, if you could try and be online either tonight or tomorrow night it would be great if we can get a screenshot with 10 guildies for the 'One for all, and all for One' event so we can get some free guild experience.

It doesn't have to be long but we need a screenshot of 10 guildies together :)
 

zonezeus

Member
To members of the EU guild, if you could try and be online either tonight or tomorrow night it would be great if we can get a screenshot with 10 guildies for the 'One for all, and all for One' event so we can get some free guild experience.

It doesn't have to be long but we need a screenshot of 10 guildies together :)

I'm working tonight, but I'll be there tomorrow if you don't make it today.
 

Ferr986

Member
How is your fps in calpheon? Although my framerate counter shows 40-50 fps, it feels so much more choppy than the numbers indicate.

20 and below lol (and this is without counting the stuttering)

To members of the EU guild, if you could try and be online either tonight or tomorrow night it would be great if we can get a screenshot with 10 guildies for the 'One for all, and all for One' event so we can get some free guild experience.

It doesn't have to be long but we need a screenshot of 10 guildies together :)

Count me in either tonight or tomorrow.
 

Pheace

Member
Also, if you haven't done it yet, don't forget the 'Get Movin' event ends end of day tomorrow as well.

Event Period: 3. March – 22. March (end of day UTC)



Event Description:

Take a selfie on any or all of the following means of transport below:


1. A screenshot of yourself on your mount (horse or donkey)

2. A screenshot of yourself on your boat

3. A screenshot of yourself on your wagon


Upload your screenshot(s) in this thread

Event Winner & Rewards:

• Mount Screenshot: 1 day Horse Flute

• Boat Screenshot: Boat Slot (Balenos)

• Wagon Screenshot: Stable Slot (Balenos)

• All three above: Title: I like to move it, move it!
 

mintylurb

Member
20 and below lol (and this is without counting the stuttering)

Dang, I shouldn't be complaining too much..Regardless game needs some optimization as my cpu utilization across all four cores is around 30-40% in calpheon with spikes up to 40-50%, whereas gpu is around 30 - 40% playing at 1080P.
Maybe it's not entirely fair to compare this game against just cause 3 or witcher 3 but both games see better cpu/gpu utilization at 1080P while maintaining 60 fps(witcher 3 with hairworks off).
Anyway, still having fun with this. Hopefully they will release better looking costumes in the near future.
 

Bombless

Member
Another great thing abouy BDO is that even though I don't have time to play my character is still fishing (thus generating some revenue) and my workers are still working (thus piling ressources for me to use when I have time to play).

My only problem now is getting stronger fishing poles, with the sharp increase in fishing skill my thick fishing pole doesn't last as long as it used to :(

I couldn't keep a straight face typing that.
 
PSA @ I had major framerate issues. It just wouldn't go above 23 FPS. Then when I closed the game, my computer was laggy. I thought the game was still running minimized in the background. I couldn't see a .exe in the task manager. I restarted and my computer was still sluggish and felt slow.
Turned out that there is a problem with BDO where it changes your monitors refresh rate. It's because BDO doesn't have a build in v-sync so it uses the monitors.

In other games if you have problems with resolution, it is a good idea to leave it in borderless fullscreen. it gives you your monitors resolution and settings but removes the borders from windows. Some people are saying that is not the best way for BDO.



In my research I also discovered some people have performance issues with BDO that was resolved when adding a BDO profile to the Nvidia Control Panel (not geforce experience). It is possible to force v-sync through that program I believe, but I didn't properly test it out.
There where also some people who didn't run the 64bit client on their system. That seems important! It's quite incredible that the games recommended specs is only a Nvidia 650. It says something about how well optimized it is compared to how great it looks.
 
Another great thing abouy BDO is that even though I don't have time to play my character is still fishing (thus generating some revenue) and my workers are still working (thus piling ressources for me to use when I have time to play).

My only problem now is getting stronger fishing poles, with the sharp increase in fishing skill my thick fishing pole doesn't last as long as it used to :(

I couldn't keep a straight face typing that.

Ferr helped me a lot yesterday.

I fired all my goblin workers, and now only have giants. They work slower but I have to feed them less regularly. I cancelled all my nodes, and made a path from Olivia to Velen. Now I have guys farming potatoes for me in surrounding farms. I'm trying to get enough money to store in every warehouse. - The your workers will store their materials in your storage but if they have to transport to other cities, remember to put thousands of silver in the warehouse.

By making beer, I will have a never ending supply of beer, so I can always feed my workers. and because they are giants I won't have to log in so much to maintain them. I don't know what I will do in the future, but this is what is happening now.

Black Desert Online- A game where I am now spending my time organizing trade routes, market upkeeping, and getting breweries while working as the head of a union.

It has become clear to me that Black Desert Online is like the insane love child of Harvest Moon, the Sims, Skyrim Modding Community and Soul Calibur. This is far removed from WoW.
The character you make at the intro is who you are. Your gear is not that magical. You are just you. You are just some guy trying to make a buck.
The sooner people understand that this is not like other MMOs, the better I think your experience will be.
It's like Warframe. This is a slow burn. Grow attached to your character, socialize. Let yourself be immersed. I mean.. I don't understand the game at all (I hope we get some real indepth guides on skill trees, gearing, stats, critical hits, rolls and so on). And surely it also has frustrated me.
I also saw this on reddit: ( http://mmogypsy.com/2016/03/black-desert-online-additional-gear-looks-for-you.html )


So these can be made via crafting or something. Not the cashshop. I want to look into being able to get a few of these!




The translation and language frustrates me. I saw that someone has made a voice swap patch so you can have korean/japanese voices instead of the english one (like the black spirit); https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/4a55qv/englishjapanesekorean_voices_swap_mod/ < the problem currently is that if there is a patch the game will become corrupt, so you basically need to have a 30 gig folder of that you can copy/paste every time there is a patch. furthermore some are saying that a mod language pack like this is against the TOS.
I'd be nice if they would give us an option to have KR/JP/RU voices.





Gods bless Dulfy, because the girl makes the best guides (also in SWTOR and GW2) - http://dulfy.net/2016/03/01/black-desert-node-management-and-hiring-workers-basic-guide/
 

mkenyon

Banned
this so much, I'm at lvl 31 and I feel like I'm doing something very wrong: my character is underleveled to the enemies I fight so I have to backtrack to places where I have done all the combat quests and then farm mobs, even I've played like I would in any other MMO.
Maybe I need to grind out more mobs or something, but yeah, it's kinda offputting.

I have this weird mentality that I need to every quest that I see I can do (that gives exp/money) and normally that'd work in any other mmo I'd feel, but it doesn't in this game. There is sooooo much to do. I'm probably playing this game wrong...
sad.gif
What you're referring to is typically labeled as "Themepark MMOs", where the game leads you to each area, shows you some neat stuff, and you move on, guided by quests and NPCs.

The quests in BDO have very little to do with direct leveling. They help you level energy, contribution, some guide you on how to do crafting. But leveling is done by killing stuff. So you go and kill stuff to level, as the quests do not provide Combat XP. Combat XP is earned through combat.
I can't get enough of fishing brehs
Same. Getting a worker empire around Calpheon and Epheria Port to support my fishing has completely halted my leveling progress. Hit 50 on day 1. Just hit 51 yesterday :p
 

Ferr986

Member
Dang, I shouldn't be complaining too much..Regardless game needs some optimization as my cpu utilization across all four cores is around 30-40% in calpheon with spikes up to 40-50%, whereas gpu is around 30 - 40% playing at 1080P.
Maybe it's not entirely fair to compare this game against just cause 3 or witcher 3 but both games see better cpu/gpu utilization at 1080P while maintaining 60 fps(witcher 3 with hairworks off).
Anyway, still having fun with this. Hopefully they will release better looking costumes in the near future.

Yep thats' weird, but sometimes MMOs are iffy with CPU utilization.
Can't say much because my CPU gets maxed at Calpheon lol

PSA @ I had major framerate issues. It just wouldn't go above 23 FPS. Then when I closed the game, my computer was laggy. I thought the game was still running minimized in the background. I couldn't see a .exe in the task manager. I restarted and my computer was still sluggish and felt slow.
Turned out that there is a problem with BDO where it changes your monitors refresh rate. It's because BDO doesn't have a build in v-sync so it uses the monitors.

In other games if you have problems with resolution, it is a good idea to leave it in borderless fullscreen. it gives you your monitors resolution and settings but removes the borders from windows. Some people are saying that is not the best way for BDO.



In my research I also discovered some people have performance issues with BDO that was resolved when adding a BDO profile to the Nvidia Control Panel (not geforce experience). It is possible to force v-sync through that program I believe, but I didn't properly test it out.
There where also some people who didn't run the 64bit client on their system. That seems important! It's quite incredible that the games recommended specs is only a Nvidia 650. It says something about how well optimized it is compared to how great it looks.

You actually have to play borderless windowed to avoid the Vsync bug.

Also, the recommended specs are a little "weird" IMO. They're more about running the game at medium.

I played this game with a 460 (close to a 650) and I had 30ish fps at Medium.
 
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