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Black Desert Online |OT| Come on in, the sand's fine [Mediah Update]

Sectus

Member
I fucking hope not.

All this horse training and breeding I've been doing instead of other things would be completely wasted.

As someone who's spent a lot of time training horses with and without the looping waypoints, I'm very much in favour of them. Right now most people are using the semi-afk solution of setting a waypoint far away and then updating it now and then. Looping waypoints is basically the same thing but it removes one tedious element.

I also wouldn't trust Daum to properly balance it otherwise. The Korean version is balanced with looping waypoints in mind, and getting several high tier horses to high level without it would be absurdly difficult.
 

Elandyll

Banned
As someone who's spent a lot of time training horses with and without the looping waypoints, I'm very much in favour of them. Right now most people are using the semi-afk solution of setting a waypoint far away and then updating it now and then. Looping waypoints is basically the same thing but it removes one tedious element.

I also wouldn't trust Daum to properly balance it otherwise. The Korean version is balanced with looping waypoints in mind, and getting several high tier horses to high level without it would be absurdly difficult.
I predict that they will balance it out by making so that the exp is halved (or even gone, but that might be a bit harsh) if the horse is out of Stamina.
 

Sectus

Member
I predict that they will balance it out by making so that the exp is halved (or even gone, but that might be a bit harsh) if the horse is out of Stamina.

Horse xp is calculated based on distance traveled, so a horse without stamina would be gaining xp at an extremely low rate.
 

Ashodin

Member
The PVP answers are encouraging. It looks like they're going to try to have everyone reach a specific level (+15 enchant) and leave it at that so everything will be balanced and more based on class balance/skill. Awesome job Daum.

Another good answer I see is that they're considering releasing Awakenings in huge batches instead of just one at a time like KR version. So like 3 at a time, I'd imagine.
 
It looks like there might be options to get pets and maybe other items without the cash shop in future. I like the sound of that.
What are going to do regarding the Cash Shop Prices?
What we would like to see and that is also what we are addressing to the developers is to push items to be obtainable via other means than the cash shop. For example offering pets through repeatable quests or achievements. Additionally we are reviewing upcoming items and do our best to prevent adding RNG related cash items. We are not very happy with the current Dye System for example, because it is quite RNG heavy and not very user friendly, but revamping those features will take time.
 

qcf x2

Member
I would be happy with an extreme grind as an alternative to paying cash because it's an alternative, no matter how steep. I hope they add some not-quite-as-awesome costumes that are grindable. Or at least let me customize my poverty rags frequently.
 

Marchiott

Member
Indeed seeing some less premium, "commoner" costumes would be a very welcome change. Or perhaps cosmetic item rentals for those who don't want to drop $20 on an outfit?

With sufficient options, a cosmetic subscription option woukd be pretty cool too.

Interested in seeing how the non-cash shop pet idea would pan out.
 
THANK GOD for them acknowledging the cash shop stuff. Sounds like they definitely want to change it up, but just need time, which is acceptable.
 

Quonny

Member
Even offering costumes as Loyalty Shop items a year after they are in the store (for insane amounts of LP) would be good.
 

Orlandu84

Member
Does anyone have a guest pass or know an easy way to get one? I want to check this game out before I buy it. I played EVE Online for almost two years before real life got in the way, and I would relish the chance to get back into a good MMO. Thank you!
 
Oh god, upgrading a weapon is absolutely bullshit.

I can't understand not being 100% success and losing the stone, but also losing max durability of the weapon for each fail (and sacrificing another weapon only gives 10% dur.?), and the annoyance that is building failstacks.... it's like a P2W system without the payment options.

From my understanding, Internet cafes are the primary Internet source in Korea and they pay for it by their consumption rate. Some of the companies and Internet cafes do some licensing deal where the money goes to both the company and the Internet cafe, so grindy online free to play games are more profitable. Therefore we are getting that same game with tweaks that are OK'd by Pearl Abyss for our gaming culture.

Take that with a grain of salt, I may be wrong and I don't have any official sources, these are just what I have heard.
 
As long as the dev and publishing teams know that dealing with the western market requires vastly different ways of handling the cash shop and whatnot and they take actions on it then they'll do well.
 

Ferr986

Member
From my understanding, Internet cafes are the primary Internet source in Korea and they pay for it by their consumption rate. Some of the companies and Internet cafes do some licensing deal where the money goes to both the company and the Internet cafe, so grindy online free to play games are more profitable. Therefore we are getting that same game with tweaks that are OK'd by Pearl Abyss for our gaming culture.

Take that with a grain of salt, I may be wrong and I don't have any official sources, these are just what I have heard.

Yeah but this is the western version. I mean, I don't know if the KR have P2W items for easing weapon upgrading, but Daum could def. change some things about it, just like they did with PvP.

I dunno, I have my weapon at a mere +9 (lvl 46) and I'm thinking to just try to farm the money to buy a +15. Seems like with my luck with MMO RNGs it could be cheaper at the end...
 

oxrock

Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
Yeah but this is the western version. I mean, I don't know if the KR have P2W items for easing weapon upgrading, but Daum could def. change some things about it, just like they did with PvP.

I dunno, I have my weapon at a mere +9 (lvl 46) and I'm thinking to just try to farm the money to buy a +15. Seems like with my luck with MMO RNGs it could be cheaper at the end...

Well there's a an armor and a weapon quest chain once you hit 50 that help with black stones. It also helps if you know to failstack to 5+ fails on crappy accessories before wasting your stones.
 

Ferr986

Member
Well there's a an armor and a weapon quest chain once you hit 50 that help with black stones. It also helps if you know to failstack to 5+ fails on crappy accessories before wasting your stones.

Yeah I know about that quest, but with RNG you could waste all that stones for like 1-2 levels...

What cheap accs should I use? cause white ones aren't upgradable, right?
 

oxrock

Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
There's tons of accessories on market you can buy from like 20-50k a piece. They'll say on the description if they're upgradable or not.
 

Ferr986

Member
There's tons of accessories on market you can buy from like 20-50k a piece. They'll say on the description if they're upgradable or not.

I can see that ending up being expensive considering how much failstacks you need...

EDIT: That change, shame its only for force. I was hoping it would make the % of successing an enchant higher. Makes sense tho, force was really expensive, considering how much it lowers durability.
 

Pheace

Member
For example offering pets through repeatable quests or achievements
Woohoo, was still holding out for that, let's hope they implement it any time soon and it doesn't take 1-2 months to get, having 1 really doesn't feel like enough :D
 
Hey all, I've been looking at some videos of this game on youtube and really wanted to give it a go. Does anyone have a spare guest pass? I'm in NA if that matters. I would really appreciate it!
 

Hastati

Member
Anyone have any experience with the tamer awakening in KR? On NA, really confused about which skills to focus on for my build in preperation, not a whole lot of info in English after searching around.
 
Umm, just did my first Crimson Battlefield

Laggy as hell (i knocked people down and before i could hit them they were behind me attacking me...i knocked them down why aren't they on the floor?), and extremely imbalanced (i did no damage with my +15 Yuria Amulet of Crimson Flame, i could never escape a stun and got chain-grabbed multiple times to death in seconds)

I hope this doesn't represent the game's PvP, because i am so disappointed right now. My effort means nothing if i don't have maxed gear
 

Hikami

Member
Umm, just did my first Crimson Battlefield

Laggy as hell (i knocked people down and before i could hit them they were behind me attacking me...i knocked them down why aren't they on the floor?), and extremely imbalanced (i did no damage with my +15 Yuria Amulet of Crimson Flame, i could never escape a stun and got chain-grabbed multiple times to death in seconds)

I hope this doesn't represent the game's PvP, because i am so disappointed right now. My effort means nothing if i don't have maxed gear
Basically. It's gear>level>skill

I've only managed to kill 6 people across the 2 Battlefield matches I've played.

There's always people with ridiculous DP that you won't be able to hit unless you have high accuracy. Resistance gear is also pretty important, the topaz necklaces give knockdown and bound resistance for example, which is what I use. Never had any lag problems like you mentioned though.
 
Yo yo yo.

Been playing this on and off since launch. It's a really gorgeous game with a lot of neat systems, but something just hasn't totally hooked me yet. I think it's a combination of the physics based movement, and the clunky ui. Something about it just feels kind of like cheap plastic. It's hard to put into words.

I come bearing a gift though:

Code 2 : 3409-6934-A336-42BF-90D2

My last guest pass. If anyone snags it, be sure to leave a message saying that you did.
 

Matty8787

Member
Think I am done.

The hours I have put in I have enjoyed but I just find the game a little too overwhelming for my liking.

I think I may have to continue on my search for the MMO I require.
 
I'm also taking a short break. Just logging in to get the loyalty. I've always planned on maining Plum so I want to play some other stuff for a week or two (still need to play Hyper Light Drifter) until she comes.
 

oxrock

Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
It's a sandbox mmo guys, there's tons of stuff to do in order for there to be things to interest everybody, but that doesn't mean you have to do EVERYTHING. Just play the way you like while doing whatever the heck you want, that's pretty much the point of a sandbox. Just keep that in mind when you start feeling overwhelmed.

Most days all I really do is fish. Why? Because I'm Mother f'ing Ahab and I'll catch that elusive white whale if it's the last thing I do! Killing ogres and grinding blackstones is just something on the side.
 

Ferr986

Member
I'm not yet, but Dark Souls III is coming...

Most days all I really do is fish. Why? Because I'm Mother f'ing Ahab and I'll catch that elusive white whale if it's the last thing I do! Killing ogres and grinding blackstones is just something on the side.

I love fishing but I'm still at the phase that I only get shit. Leveling fishing is soooooooooooooo slow.

Btw, I know Im so late but yesterday I (finally) started to process the fishing boat!
 

omlet

Member
You don't even need a boat for the hotspot right off the coast near Velia, either because so many afk rafts are just left there. I never move mine, I just swim to shore once I'm done because it's faster than moving the raft back to the dock lol.
 

oxrock

Gravity is a myth, the Earth SUCKS!
I'm not yet, but Dark Souls III is coming...



I love fishing but I'm still at the phase that I only get shit. Leveling fishing is soooooooooooooo slow.

Btw, I know Im so late but yesterday I (finally) started to process the fishing boat!

As far as I can tell, what you catch with fishing isn't related to your fishing level. I believe your fishing level only dictates how fast you get a fish on the hook. As far as catching crap, that's because you're not fishing at one of the ridiculously OP hotspots.
 

Ferr986

Member
That's the coastal cave area? I already fish there but didn't notice any difference about getting better fish or more exp.

Btw I'm doing the boad because It's cool, I know I don't really need it :p

As far as I can tell, what you catch with fishing isn't related to your fishing level. I believe your fishing level only dictates how fast you get a fish on the hook. As far as catching crap, that's because you're not fishing at one of the ridiculously OP hotspots.

Ah, didn't know that. Guess it's only hotspot and maybe gear.
 
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