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Black Desert Online |OT| Come on in, the sand's fine [Mediah Update]

So I put some time into the game last night. I am lvl 13 now, did a few quests at Western Gate I think its called.

There is... a lot. Overwhelmingly a lot. I did some Conversation stuff, and randomly clicked portraits and expended what looked like a limited pool of energy that refills like 1 every few minutes kinda like a mobile game. Did it enough to unlock a quest from some girl.

No idea what node management does. So I ignored that.

The combat is really fun. I love stringing together combos.

The game looks great as well.
 

WaterAstro

Member
I'm not sure why this never clicked with me. Tamer and Sorceress should be the same as how I'm playing Kunoichi. You're attacking left and right to dodge enemies... how come I never realized it til now?
 
Graphics look kinda rough for me. I have all the effects bumped up as high a it'll go, but it still doesn't look that great. Got a 1060.

Anyone using reshade, or something similar?

Edit: it's mainly that the AA is pretty weak. I tried bumping it up in nvidia control panel, but it didn't change anything.
 

Bigrx1

Banned
Graphics look kinda rough for me. I have all the effects bumped up as high a it'll go, but it still doesn't look that great. Got a 1060.

Anyone using reshade, or something similar?

Edit: it's mainly that the AA is pretty weak. I tried bumping it up in nvidia control panel, but it didn't change anything.

really? compared to AAA single player titles perhaps but compared to mmo's this blows most all of them away graphically. I still didn't care for the game but the graphics were impressive.
 

Mithos

Member
Graphics look kinda rough for me. I have all the effects bumped up as high a it'll go, but it still doesn't look that great. Got a 1060.

Uncheck High-End Mode, then you see how many many people play this game, then you turn on High-End mode again, and enjoy the improvements.
 

zeox

Member
really? compared to AAA single player titles perhaps but compared to mmo's this blows most all of them away graphically. I still didn't care for the game but the graphics were impressive.

if it didn't have the WORST pop-in in the fucking world, I would totally agree with you
 
really? compared to AAA single player titles perhaps but compared to mmo's this blows most all of them away graphically. I still didn't care for the game but the graphics were impressive.

You misunderstand. I'm speaking relatively. I've seen a good bit of screens that have much nicer effects than I'm getting, but yeah, it looks great for an MMO regardless. I just wondered if anyone else is using tools to improve it.

Also, there's the camera mode, why are all those bells and whistles tied only to that mode?
 

Hubb

Member
You misunderstand. I'm speaking relatively. I've seen a good bit of screens that have much nicer effects than I'm getting, but yeah, it looks great for an MMO regardless. I just wondered if anyone else is using tools to improve it.

Also, there's the camera mode, why are all those bells and whistles tied only to that mode?

Do you have an in-game filter on? Not sure that'll help your issue, but it might be worth checking out.
 

WaterAstro

Member
Goddamn these Swamp Naga Commanders. I killed like thousands of you and you won't give me the stupid knowledge thing.

I'm not a fan of filling up numbers, but for this, I wish there was something that I could measure.
 

Eolz

Member
So, the game is on sale right now, and I really liked the beta.
That said, I'm not someone with a lot of time, prefer to play solo as much as I can, and heard that the game became more P2W over time...

Would you recommend it to me? I know it's an OT so people might obviously do it, but I'm interested to hear other sides.
 

Hastati

Member
The game is a lot of fun if you play solo and don't worry about your gear score and whatnot. I'd say it's a great way to wind down at the end of the day, you make your own tasks and do whatever you want.

Pay to win kind of comes in to play in the end game, but doesn't matter if you don't want to be in the top 1%. Even with P2W, you'd have to play 3-5 hrs a day to get enough money and experience consistently to be top tier, and it just isn't worth it if you have other responsibilities.

Basically if you aren't too OCD about it and enjoy crafting your own experiences over playing competitively, you will have a good time.
 

Hubb

Member
So, the game is on sale right now, and I really liked the beta.
That said, I'm not someone with a lot of time, prefer to play solo as much as I can, and heard that the game became more P2W over time...

Would you recommend it to me? I know it's an OT so people might obviously do it, but I'm interested to hear other sides.

What are you looking to get out of the game? It'll be easier to give you an honest opinion if I know what you are trying to do within the game.
 

Hubb

Member
As a lapsed player from just after Medivh, is there anything I should know before jumping back in?

Get on the updated boss timer discord if you are interested in doing them, other than that probably not. If you are high enough for Valencia or just want to check it out, go for it.

EDIT: Oh they put in a combat quest that gives you 30% of your level at level 55. Worth doing if you are 55+. Pretty sure it starts with this guy http://bddatabase.net/us/npc/44313/1/
 

Eolz

Member
The game is a lot of fun if you play solo and don't worry about your gear score and whatnot. I'd say it's a great way to wind down at the end of the day, you make your own tasks and do whatever you want.

Pay to win kind of comes in to play in the end game, but doesn't matter if you don't want to be in the top 1%. Even with P2W, you'd have to play 3-5 hrs a day to get enough money and experience consistently to be top tier, and it just isn't worth it if you have other responsibilities.

Basically if you aren't too OCD about it and enjoy crafting your own experiences over playing competitively, you will have a good time.

Thanks for the info, especially about the P2W! Not worried if it's just for the endgame then...
I just really liked the combat system, the graphics obviously, and how it fit together (unlike Vindictus that got boring quicker than I expected for example, even if I like coming back to it).

What are you looking to get out of the game? It'll be easier to give you an honest opinion if I know what you are trying to do within the game.

Mostly PVE, exploration, and having a good time. Not helping I know, but it's really just playing from time to time when I want to play something else, not going for the best ever build or pvp :p
 

Hubb

Member
Mostly PVE, exploration, and having a good time. Not helping I know, but it's really just playing from time to time when I want to play something else, not going for the best ever build or pvp :p

Nah that works. PvP is probably out of your reach anyway if you don't have much time to invest into the game. There are P2W aspects to the game, though everybody's definition of P2W is different. The biggest offender right now is the costume coupon which you can only get with real money. If you aren't looking to PvP at the top then it probably doesn't matter. There are others too, but those either are getting money or saving money.

You basically have to enjoy character progression being numbers (and a lot of the time hidden numbers). The game does a really piss poor job on visual progression/visual gear progression. The costume system could use some work (you can't mix and match pieces and keep set bonuses, changing costumes takes too long).

Try and grab a seven day guest pass and see if you enjoy it.
 

Dezzy

Member
Are there any extra 7-day passes floating around? I'd love to give this a real try to see if it's something my wife and I would enjoy playing together. After WoW on and off for 10 years, it's time to try something new. The trading, gathering and crafting, and of course housing sounds pretty interesting. ..And combat without 25 buttons to push.
 

Eolz

Member
Nah that works. PvP is probably out of your reach anyway if you don't have much time to invest into the game. There are P2W aspects to the game, though everybody's definition of P2W is different. The biggest offender right now is the costume coupon which you can only get with real money. If you aren't looking to PvP at the top then it probably doesn't matter. There are others too, but those either are getting money or saving money.

You basically have to enjoy character progression being numbers (and a lot of the time hidden numbers). The game does a really piss poor job on visual progression/visual gear progression. The costume system could use some work (you can't mix and match pieces and keep set bonuses, changing costumes takes too long).

Try and grab a seven day guest pass and see if you enjoy it.

If it's better than the beta, I'm good for it. I really enjoyed it over a few days, despite some issues here and there (some weird UI sometimes, and some optimization issues at the time).
Thanks for the tips! :)
 

Hubb

Member
If it's better than the beta, I'm good for it. I really enjoyed it over a few days, despite some issues here and there (some weird UI sometimes, and some optimization issues at the time).
Thanks for the tips! :)

Np, you can PM me here or in game if you want any tips/help/or whatever else.
 

mintylurb

Member
Are there any extra 7-day passes floating around? I'd love to give this a real try to see if it's something my wife and I would enjoy playing together. After WoW on and off for 10 years, it's time to try something new. The trading, gathering and crafting, and of course housing sounds pretty interesting. ..And combat without 25 buttons to push.

I still have a guest pass that I can send. Let me know if you still need it.

You can pull it out of the random item square, can't remember if it is the 1d or 7d version.
Believe it is the 1 day version. I got it a few days ago.
 
Are the packages worth it or should I just get the cheap one for 10€? I plan to play very very casually, mostly PvE and exploring the world. The only thing that sound interesting is the horse-whistle-thingy.
 

Hubb

Member
Sounds like I have to get really really lucky lol.

You can buy a 30 day value pack off the market for ~10 million. You have to get a little lucky to grab one, but it is possible.

Are the packages worth it or should I just get the cheap one for 10€? I plan to play very very casually, mostly PvE and exploring the world. The only thing that sound interesting is the horse-whistle-thingy.

If you are playing very casually no, they probably aren't worth it. Getting your own horse is pretty easy and there are tons of guides on it. Honestly I haven't even been tempted to buy the horse whistle. Out of all the convenience items, that seems to be the weakest/easiest to ignore. You can still whistle your horse to you without one, the whistle just increases the range.
 
If you are playing very casually no, they probably aren't worth it. Getting your own horse is pretty easy and there are tons of guides on it. Honestly I haven't even been tempted to buy the horse whistle. Out of all the convenience items, that seems to be the weakest/easiest to ignore. You can still whistle your horse to you without one, the whistle just increases the range.
Well, that's exactly what I wanted to hear :D Thanks!
Also, is the European side of things active? Or should I just go to the US servers?
 

Hubb

Member
Well, that's exactly what I wanted to hear :D Thanks!
Also, is the European side of things active? Or should I just go to the US servers?

Ping can be a big issue so I'd say probably stick to EU, though I don't believe there is an active GAF EU community. Can't remember which is the most popular EU server, but this is a game where you almost don't want to run into people after a certain level. You don't want people contesting your grind spot.
 

WaterAstro

Member
You can buy a 30 day value pack off the market for ~10 million. You have to get a little lucky to grab one, but it is possible.

If you are playing very casually no, they probably aren't worth it. Getting your own horse is pretty easy and there are tons of guides on it. Honestly I haven't even been tempted to buy the horse whistle. Out of all the convenience items, that seems to be the weakest/easiest to ignore. You can still whistle your horse to you without one, the whistle just increases the range.

Yeah I'm only interested in it to change the look of my kuno, since it's kinda defaulty now.

How long does it take to get a high tier horse? I've looked up this question but everyone is just talking about how to get horses.
 

Hubb

Member
How long does it take to get a high tier horse? I've looked up this question but everyone is just talking about how to get horses.

Painfully long depending on how RNG blesses you. Once you hit T5 (maybe even lower), you want the holy trinity of horse skills more than you want a higher tier horse. Sure a T8 with the trinity is amazing, but a T5 with it is better than a higher tier without it.

What's a good class to play in this game? As in controls well and easy to solo.

PvE solo? Pretty much anything. Ranger seems to be the go to safe class, though until you get your weapon slotted right it is very mana hungry. Sorc is another good class, not the best PvE clear until awakening but not a bad clear either with plenty of i-frames to abuse. Witch/Wizard is good if you like nuking things.

Honestly play whatever appeals the most to you, any class can make it work. Some may have to work a little harder than others, but the game really isn't balanced around 1v1.
 

WaterAstro

Member
Kuno is really fun because avoiding damage is rewarding on its own. It definitely feels like Kuno/Ninja is super mobile as long as they have the stamina, being able to dodge and attack feels so good.

I'm pretty sure sorc and tamer can do it too, but I never felt like they could move as far as kuno when using shadow slash.

I heard Ranger is super OP with awakening, like the best PVP class or something after a buff.
 

Eolz

Member
Just bought it in the end (got the middle package) :)
Will probably not install it right now (I'm preloading Forza Horizon 3 at the moment), but thanks again for all the advice here!
 

RedFury

Member
So I just bought this can I get my Steam Controller to work with this or is KB+M preferred input method. Don't know how I feel about DMC style game with KB inputs (having DmC3 PC port nightmares).
 

Hubb

Member
So I just bought this can I get my Steam Controller to work with this or is KB+M preferred input method. Don't know how I feel about DMC style game with KB inputs (having DmC3 PC port nightmares).

I know people use controllers in the game but I don't, so I can't help you set it up.
 

Sora_N

Member
Painfully long depending on how RNG blesses you. Once you hit T5 (maybe even lower), you want the holy trinity of horse skills more than you want a higher tier horse. Sure a T8 with the trinity is amazing, but a T5 with it is better than a higher tier without it.



PvE solo? Pretty much anything. Ranger seems to be the go to safe class, though until you get your weapon slotted right it is very mana hungry. Sorc is another good class, not the best PvE clear until awakening but not a bad clear either with plenty of i-frames to abuse. Witch/Wizard is good if you like nuking things.

Honestly play whatever appeals the most to you, any class can make it work. Some may have to work a little harder than others, but the game really isn't balanced around 1v1.

Kuno is really fun because avoiding damage is rewarding on its own. It definitely feels like Kuno/Ninja is super mobile as long as they have the stamina, being able to dodge and attack feels so good.

I'm pretty sure sorc and tamer can do it too, but I never felt like they could move as far as kuno when using shadow slash.

I heard Ranger is super OP with awakening, like the best PVP class or something after a buff.

Thanks. The character creation is really overwhelming.

I might play the Maehwa or whatever the sword and bow class is
 

Vyrance

Member
Reminder that if anyone wants in the guild on NA Orwen there's plenty of room! I know someone sent me a tell to get in a few days ago but I was afk. Just try the officers every few hours because a lot of us keep our characters on 24/7
 
Ping can be a big issue so I'd say probably stick to EU, though I don't believe there is an active GAF EU community. Can't remember which is the most popular EU server, but this is a game where you almost don't want to run into people after a certain level. You don't want people contesting your grind spot.
Would it be an issue even if I wanted to stick with PvE? I'd imagine ping having a noticeable impact on PvP, but in PvE it's usually manageable.
I mean, I'll probably just try it out if possible.
 

WaterAstro

Member
Ugh, I didn't realize Kunoichi's awakening isn't out yet...

I got a 1 day Value Pass from the boardgame. Woot. I can change styles now.
 

Hastati

Member
Anyone have advice on upgrading to TRI mos/witch or DUO crescents? Debating taking the enhancement plunge, but it seems like a good way to lose ... everything, and I'm wondering if straight up buying them would be cheaper in the long run.
 
Anyone have advice on upgrading to TRI mos/witch or DUO crescents? Debating taking the enhancement plunge, but it seems like a good way to lose ... everything, and I'm wondering if straight up buying them would be cheaper in the long run.

Build up enough failstacks you feel confident in enchanting. It costs much more getting a DUO or TRI of Witch and MOS.
 

mintylurb

Member
Anyone have advice on upgrading to TRI mos/witch or DUO crescents? Debating taking the enhancement plunge, but it seems like a good way to lose ... everything, and I'm wondering if straight up buying them would be cheaper in the long run.

After losing several mos/witch and other accessories trying to enhance them from pri to duo, I've decided to just stick with what I have currently have which is mix of pri/duo accessories and not take my chances.
It took me between 35-44 fail stacks to go from duo to tri with armors/weapons for me. Weapons took higher fs than armors.
 

Hastati

Member
Thanks guys. Right now I'm using the Val 2 quest rings and my earrings aren't great (quest earring and pri whale). May buy some pri crescents, but haven't found any info on good stacks for DUO. I'm guessing 30 is too low?

All else fails I'll just stay low AP lol.
 
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