MikeHattsu
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Looks like they got a bunch of life jackets and stuff so the theory that they crossed the river to get there might be correct. Doesn't seem to be any fences towards the river or anything.
Black Lives Matter protestors close London City Airport runway
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Looks like they got a bunch of life jackets and stuff so the theory that they crossed the river to get there might be correct. Doesn't seem to be any fences towards the river or anything.
Palette Swap
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This is some fucked up logic bordering on disgusting : "please die quietly while we fuck the world".
ClosingADoor
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City Airport is for the elite? I've flown to there a few times. Guess I'm the 1% now.
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Transhuman
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They're white.
Trespassing?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Yes, I'm sure they just let random white people walk onto a runway because of their skin color. Get a grip.
Sir_Crocodile
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Looks like that's talking about total emissions from the dawn of industrialisation. In which case it's not surprising UK is number one.
Forever Changes
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Truly embarrassing.
MarkMclovin
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Only the photos and a video are up on the BLMUK twitter page.
Had a search and something similar happened at Heathrow last year and the protestors were charged with "aggravated trespass and entering a security restricted area of an aerodrome" can't see a mention of the convictions though.
To give BLM UK credit, they are damn good at spinning.
BossDarkseid
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Are you seriously suggesting that if security saw them they said "Go ahead, white man" but if the person was of colour (I don't know if you've been to LCA but it's staff is pretty multi-cultural and multi-etchnicity) they'd be "PoC, stop!"?
KonradLaw
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Huh? Nobody is mass killing black people in UK. And it's not big enough country to actually have a big effect on global climate, especially these days. It's not USA or China we're talking about here.
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It was probably a facetious comment.
QuicheFontaine
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lol I was going to say white people stand out in Heathrow T4. A quick google says that Heathrow staff is 57% white British.
CyclopsRock
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I can't link to it because it's on the DM website, but there's a funny picture - underneath all the photos of the white BLM protestors - of a load of black people waiting in a queue for their delayed flight.
Napoleonthechimp
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They're going for a racist climate change angle? wow.
KurtSloane
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Yeah, they are losing me on this one to be fair. Most of those in the Med aren't black either, so they are straight up lying.
A bit sick to hijack that scenario for their cause. Then again with racial issues in the UK being pretty low, they need to tack that stuff on.
Audioboxer
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/facepalm
edit:
Passengers are pictured queuing at London City this morning after the Black Lives Matter protest caused delays and cancellations to flights in and out of the airpot
It's not DM's photo I don't think so I'll link it (copyright reuters?)
Also as for how they got to where they did
So lets drop the stupid security remarks (although police/security will still need to inspect the ability to do the above for future concerns).
lol.
Audioboxer
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BLM largely started around police brutality and the cops murdering unarmed, or otherwise not threatening enough (as in situation could be diffused/person taken down non-lethally) black people. We do not have that in the UK. Primarily because we don't arm every citizen and have guns on sale in Asda/Tesco, and therefore our cops aren't all armed and gun loving mad"men". We don't have a gun culture, we don't have the NRA and we don't have politicians lining their pockets with gun money and therefore being assholes about ANY sort of reform. Even when a ton of kids get shot up, or a massacre in a nightclub with a powerful semi-automatic rifle, or as BLM protest, constant killings of unarmed or non-dangerous black people.
Parts of Brexit are another kettle of fish, and while racial issues, they are largely aimed at "the brown man", or to put it more politely, Asians/Middle Easterners. It's disgusting but it's not 1:1 with the issues America has. Hence why you can't just copy BLM American activism and slap it into the UK without any thought. You get shit like this when you do. Embarrassing shit that drags the name through the mud and causes public resentment.
Americans just have to trust us Brits it is NOT the same here as it is in America.
KurtSloane
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Are they not? Majority of deaths in black communities are from black on black crime, not police officers shooting them.
There is no institutional racism in the UK, not in this day and age, in terms of profiling the Muslim community are suffering from it the most.
Camp Freddie
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So basically, UK BLM is just a bunch of people appropriating the name of the more famous US movement.
Unless I'm mistaken, BLM is a protest group focused on fighting racism in the police and the lazy media image of black victims as mattering less because they're "probably gang-related".
UK BLM seems to be more about immigration across the Mediterranean, climate change and "fuck the 1%" anti-capitalism?
Because most immigrants dying in the Mediterranean are black rather than Syrian? And the bankers fund this somehow? And they are leaving Africa because of climate change? I'm not really getting the message.
Why use UK BLM as your name if the focus is actually on life for black Africans in Africa?
I mean, it's a worthy cause but it needs it's own movement rather than mimicking an existing one while fighting for a different cause.
Unless I'm mistaken, BLM is a protest group focused on fighting racism in the police and the lazy media image of black victims as mattering less because they're "probably gang-related".
UK BLM seems to be more about immigration across the Mediterranean, climate change and "fuck the 1%" anti-capitalism?
Because most immigrants dying in the Mediterranean are black rather than Syrian? And the bankers fund this somehow? And they are leaving Africa because of climate change? I'm not really getting the message.
Why use UK BLM as your name if the focus is actually on life for black Africans in Africa?
I mean, it's a worthy cause but it needs it's own movement rather than mimicking an existing one while fighting for a different cause.
uncleniccius
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Aren't they wrong on us being the biggest contributor per capita?
A few years ago in school I was told that title went to Australia.
Just looked, it appears they're wrong.
For reference: http://www.wri.org/blog/2014/11/6-graphs-explain-worlds-top-10-emitters
A few years ago in school I was told that title went to Australia.
Just looked, it appears they're wrong.
For reference: http://www.wri.org/blog/2014/11/6-graphs-explain-worlds-top-10-emitters
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Isn't that the same in the US? not to take away from police brutality.
KurtSloane
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They are wrong about many things, they are an embarrassment to the BLM movement in the US.
I'm sorry, but the fact you're trotting out the "What about black on black crime?" defence doesn't really show that much awareness in the first place.
Even the leader of the fucking tories admitted there's a problem with institutionalised racism in this country, and that's coming from a party with a long history of catering to the racist fringe of the right. And that's not even taking into account the racism that minorities & immigrants receive on a daily basis, which recently got a small boost post brexit.
uncleniccius
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Indeed. There are definite issues here as well, but this is not how you handle a movement.
KurtSloane
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Well I already stated about Muslim communities bearing the brunt as an example.
Institutionalised racism akin to the US? nowhere near it!
Let's not try and equate the situation between the US and UK.
Also black lives are not under any greater threat than the rest of us in the UK.
BLM is completely out of place in the UK, it's very name does promote inclusiveness to tackle a broad range issue.
KurtSloane
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I should have been more specific, in relation to the police, police brutality, profiling etc and the black community.
Homicide rates are higher with the black community, but it's not the fault of the police.
nelsonroyale
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The argument is a valid one, they just don't articulate it well on their twitter comment.
The actions of Britons, particularly the wealthy flies in the face of what we understand about fair use of resources in a world charactertised by a great deal of human inequality and depletion of natural resources and ecosystems. Calling the biggest buggers out for it, while highlighting the plight of those with so little is hardly illogical. Just badly put here.
Also, it seems they are trying to bring up several points in one small protest. No wonder this is easy picking for the sceptics.
The actions of Britons, particularly the wealthy flies in the face of what we understand about fair use of resources in a world charactertised by a great deal of human inequality and depletion of natural resources and ecosystems. Calling the biggest buggers out for it, while highlighting the plight of those with so little is hardly illogical. Just badly put here.
Also, it seems they are trying to bring up several points in one small protest. No wonder this is easy picking for the sceptics.
Where did I say anything like that. "What about black on black crime?" is at best wilful ignorance about how how minorities end up in worse conditions in the first place.
You said something wrong & ignorant, just admit that. It's especially insulting to say something like that to a person who has been dealing with racism in this country for years and years.
And of course this thread is full of people who are taking a bunch of middle class white people running onto a runway and taking it as a cue to lecture minorities about how they are just whining because at least it's better than living in america.
Audioboxer
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No, we're not "lecturing" minorities, we are "lecturing" the activists who are giving the BLM movement a bad name.
Don't take the criticism of the UK BLM branch personally, and obviously don't think criticism is off the table. With the way the UK branch has been acting in recent months it's no wonder they are getting some criticism from otherwise fairly pro-BLM supporters (usually within the American context as the group while not centralised in America has a lot of good cells with valid protests).
They've (UK BLM) already done the airport attack to luke warm at best reception, and now they are at it again with an even more scattershot approach bringing in climate change?
KurtSloane
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Whoever said resource use was to be fair?
People are inherently selfish and out for themselves, it's nature, the survival of the fittest etc.
Their is no obligation on every person to help the other, simply a choice.
All these people are generally hypocrites, the opportunity they have to do things like this is generally afforded by living in the society they hate.
I wonder how they charge their laptops or phones? I wonder where the materials for the clothes they where come from?
They contribute as much as anyone else, have kids? More humans and their needs are the biggest problem of all.
KurtSloane
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Insulting? Listen we all deal with stuff, I have dealt with oppression, police brutality and state sponsored paramilitaries but please continue to tell me how we all don't know a thing about it.
Ever had a gang sledgehammer there way into your home, should your father because of his religion / community background and then have the police not investigate properly because they are from the same community?
I corrected myself, I was looking at it too narrowly from the perspective of what the main just of the US BLM movement is focused on, ingrained racism in police forces, police brutality and killings of black people out of proportion.
And to that end, that situation doesn't exist in the UK.
Spotted that - hilarious.
Are we mad about...
climate change?
rich people?
refugees? (but not in the UKIP way)
Fuck it, let's go with all three in a single paragraph
Just because the police over here don't all carry guns to shoot us with doesn't mean that racial profiling from the police doesn't exist. It doesn't mean that increased stop and searching of minorities doesn't happen. It doesn't mean that racism in the justice system doesn't exist.
And i'm not going to get into an oppression olympics argument with you. I'm the son of two nigerian immigrant parents, so the topic of racial inequality hits a raw nerve with me, and honestly i'm just going to get more heated if I start talking about the stuff that happened to me as a kid. I'm sorry I i exploded at you like that, but racial issues in the UK hit close to home with me.
CyclopsRock
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Well this thread's taking a weird turn, so let me tell you about the cool way the flights to NY work from City airport.
The runway is, due to its geographical location, very short, and they need to gain altitude very quickly due to the tall buildings surrounding it. There aren't many planes that are able to do this which are also Trans-Atlantic, and even those which are can only do it with low levels of fuel (because, full of fuel, it can't gain altitude quick enough). So what they do it take off with hardly any fuel, land in Dublin and refuel. BUT because Ireland has some batty agreement with the US (a bit like Canada does, and the UK does with France around the Chunnel), they can actually do all the visa and immigration stuff there in Dublin whilst the plane's being refueled. Because of this, the plane can then land in a domestic terminal at JFK and the passengers depart the plane largely unmolested. This way, whilst they do have to stop, the actual time between getting on the aeroplane and getting out of the terminal in NY is about the same. Magic, huh? Also, because City airport is so tiny, you actually spend less time in the airport and it's centrally located. Basically, it's cool as shit.
The runway is, due to its geographical location, very short, and they need to gain altitude very quickly due to the tall buildings surrounding it. There aren't many planes that are able to do this which are also Trans-Atlantic, and even those which are can only do it with low levels of fuel (because, full of fuel, it can't gain altitude quick enough). So what they do it take off with hardly any fuel, land in Dublin and refuel. BUT because Ireland has some batty agreement with the US (a bit like Canada does, and the UK does with France around the Chunnel), they can actually do all the visa and immigration stuff there in Dublin whilst the plane's being refueled. Because of this, the plane can then land in a domestic terminal at JFK and the passengers depart the plane largely unmolested. This way, whilst they do have to stop, the actual time between getting on the aeroplane and getting out of the terminal in NY is about the same. Magic, huh? Also, because City airport is so tiny, you actually spend less time in the airport and it's centrally located. Basically, it's cool as shit.
Raiden1018
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I'm so glad this movement is spreading nationwide. :')
Didn't know there were a lot of protesters in London
Didn't know there were a lot of protesters in London
That is pretty cool.
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