Black Lives Matter protestors close London City Airport runway

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Wait, the UK beats out US per capita on temperature change?

Who said that? edit - nvm

Nope, I don't think so. Not even close, since US emits more than twice as much as the UK (per capita):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

"Black people are the first to die, not the first to fly, in this racist climate crisis.

Yeaaaah... maybe keep these particular guys away from journalists and microphones, they're not doing anyone any favors.
 
"As the largest per capita contributor to global temperature change, and yet among the least vulnerable to its deadly effects, the UK leads in ensuring that our climate crisis is a racist crisis."

??
Largest per capita? According to who? There are like 20 countries in front of the UK.

BLMUK have a bit of an adversion to facts, on their last 'protest' they spouted massively over inflated bs numbers with no sources other then their own twitter.
 
They go on about the airport expansion in London and how it will effect black lives. So it very much is about how they feel the UK treat black people.
Yeah, they mention that the airport is placed in poor neighborhoods that don't really benefit from it yet they suffer the consequences from the added pollution. So why are people arguing about police shootings...?
 
This is my view as well. Here are your arguments with sources:

policeshootingsgraph.png


http://www.inquest.org.uk/statistics/fatal-police-shootings

Are 2013 and 2014 swapped around in that graph?? How did that happen??

This country, smh
 
BLMUK have a bit of an adversion to facts, on their last 'protest' they spouted massively over inflated bs numbers with no sources other then their own twitter.

I see now from reading the whole thread that they're talking about historical emissions:

http://berc.berkeley.edu/ranking-global-warming-contributions-by-country/

It's still a BS argument though, for at least three reasons:

1- History can't be changed;
2- The UK is cutting emissions from year to year (just like other countries have been).
3- As mentioned earlier, the UK is far from the biggest contributor per capita to carbon emissions today.
 
Yeah, they mention that the airport is placed in poor neighborhoods that don't really benefit from it yet they suffer the consequences from the added pollution. So why are people arguing about police shootings...?

Which is what I was getting at. They very much are talking about how black people are treated in the UK. I don't know why people are bringing up shootings. To me it seems BLMuk is very much just a random activist group.

That being said the outskirts of London are mostly shitholes. I am lucky my parents moved away from Lewisham before I was born and moved down to Southampton. Far better living here then there, even though I see it is improving.
 
It's similar?

Police watchdog IPCC 'favours black complainants' - Even just this story is the polar opposite of the US. Black citizens that complain are more likely to be believed. Does this happen in the US?

Also, let's check this:
Police in Britain fired their guns just seven times in the last year - When the main thrust of BLM is black citizens being executed and police getting away with it.

On the other hand:
BAME groups are more at risk of being victims of crime.
Homicide rates higher against black citizens (Asian and White are lower). Oh, just in case you're American, in the UK 'Asian' usually means what you would described as 'Middle Eastern' or 'Indian'. (every race is more likely to be victimised by their own race - not that it particularly matters).
Police searches: Black - 4.5x higher, Asian - 1.5x higher, Mixed - 2x higher (than whites).
'No clear trend was seen in the issuing of penalty notices for disorder to BAME versus White individuals, but the Black ethnic group received cautions at three times the rate of other groups.'
Sentencing for black citizens is 3x higher than relative to their population.

Also, nobody is denying this really, we're discussing the latest BLM activity by-and-large and it has nothing to do with black people in the UK but if I was to talk about it, I would say there are some similarities but many of us would object to the comparison of a country that systematically executes their citizens in the streets and the police have no independent commission like we do.

Your first link is just somebody's opinion on the matter. I don't know why you are linking it.

The issues are indeed similar. The only difference is that UK officers do not have the sort of power that US officers have. The same prejudice exists among the UK police and criminal justice system.
 
They go on about the airport expansion in London and how it will effect black lives and how how it should be stopped. So it very much is about how they feel the UK treat black people.

The irony being the proposed Heathrow expansion is covering one of the least demographically black areas of the city.
 
This isn't a Black lives matter protest.

It's white people who just can't let us have anything jumping on the bandwagon to side promote their causes.

Its pretty fucking disgusting, but clearly it's worked judging by this thread.
 
This isn't a Black lives matter protest.

It's white people who just can't let us have anything jumping on the bandwagon to side promote their causes.

Its pretty fucking disgusting, but clearly it's worked judging by this thread.

The BLM UK Twitter claims otherwise though:
https://twitter.com/ukblm/status/773125360494018560
UKBLM is and always has been black led

There's a need for white people to take responsibility in a society that privileges them through racism and anti-black racism in particular

Today's protest is an example of white allyship under black leadership
 
The BLM UK Twitter claims otherwise though:
https://twitter.com/ukblm/status/773125360494018560

So?

This is not a Black lives matter protest because you get a hippy looking mixed race girl as your spokeswoman.

This is not about black lives, it's about co-opting a popular movement for your own bullshit. No different from the anarchists who co-opted occupy.

Disgusting shits with no fucking shame.

The whole point of BLMUK has always felt like people jumping in on the hype for attention and this proves it.

Its fucking disrespectful.
 
Spied this on the old twitter, made me chortle.

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"As the largest per capita contributor to global temperature change, and yet among the least vulnerable to its deadly effects, the UK leads in ensuring that our climate crisis is a racist crisis."

??
Largest per capita? According to who? There are like 20 countries in front of the UK.

42 countries
 
So everyone protesting was white? That seems like a pretty shameless co-opting of another movement to try and push your own causes with some tenuous reasoning.
 
So everyone protesting was white? That seems like a pretty shameless co-opting of another movement to try and push your own causes with some tenuous reasoning.

Been looking into this and all roads point back to a website called novaramedia.com a "news" outlet promoting "neoliberalism" run by career activists.

The seem to be deeply wrapped up with BLM UK and at the Heathrow protest they were the first on the scene and happy to offer the footage to ITV news in exchange for a credit.

Google the two together and the hits go hand in hand

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q="novara+media"++"black+lives+matter"&start=0

Call me cynical, but it looks like there's a bit of the old self promotion through smoke and mirrors going on here.
 
So now BLM is accountable for the actions of random white people on another Continent? Seems about right...

And to the UK guys saying that you don't have a policing/institutional racism problem, what were those riots about a few years back? There's obviously some level of frustration there.
 
So now BLM is accountable for the actions of random white people on another Continent? Seems about right...

And to the UK guys saying that you don't have a policing/institutional racism problem, what were those riots about a few years back? There's obviously some level of frustration there.

Yeah, aren't BLM more of a...movement, rather than organization? It's ridiculous to expect them to control people overseas, especially when it leaves them open to "hijacking" of a sort.

Also if you mean the Tottenham riots etc in...2011, I think it was...I think some of that was in response to a guy called Mark Duggan being shot by police while supposedly unarmed (can't remember if any investigations anything turned up evidence one way or the other) and a lot of the stuff that followed seemed like people were latching onto the riots, because I think initially there was a peaceful sit in protest at the police station near where he was killed.

Memory's a tad sketchy
 
Can we get a preapproved list of locations, positions, volumes and citizens who are okay to protest for BLM?

No bridges, no sitting, no standing, no celebrities, no athletes, no airports. Anything else?
 
So now BLM is accountable for the actions of random white people on another Continent? Seems about right...

And to the UK guys saying that you don't have a policing/institutional racism problem, what were those riots about a few years back? There's obviously some level of frustration there.

The London riots? Most of those people were entitled opportunistic shitbags who decided to burn down their own neighbourhoods for a laugh.
 
Can we get a preapproved list of locations, positions, volumes and citizens who are okay to protest for BLM?

No bridges, no sitting, no standing, no celebrities, no athletes, no airports. Anything else?
BLM(UK) has nothing to do with the BLM(USA) movements. Critics of this are not critics of what is going on in the States. If anything, because people agree with the original movement they are more critical of this UK movement piggybacking off the name.

So now BLM is accountable for the actions of random white people on another Continent? Seems about right...

And to the UK guys saying that you don't have a policing/institutional racism problem, what were those riots about a few years back? There's obviously some level of frustration there.
Anything outside the initial peaceful protest was just an excuse to loot. There was no message apart from "I want a free PS3".
 
Yeah, aren't BLM more of a...movement, rather than organization? It's ridiculous to expect them to control people overseas, especially when it leaves them open to "hijacking" of a sort.

Also if you mean the Tottenham riots etc in...2011, I think it was...I think some of that was in response to a guy called Mark Duggan being shot by police while supposedly unarmed (can't remember if any investigations anything turned up evidence one way or the other) and a lot of the stuff that followed seemed like people were latching onto the riots, because I think initially there was a peaceful sit in protest at the police station near where he was killed.

Memory's a tad sketchy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32041119

He didnt have a gun in his hand, but it was deemed that he was in the process of throwing it away from him when he was shot.
 
Let's have WLM submit a list of suitable locations and a few alternates, then BLM can agree.

You can knock off the sarcasm - you don't have to be some unthinking monster to believe that lashing out at entirely irrelevant third parties is fine and dandy because, well, our voices just need to be heard. Protest needs to "get in the way" but that doesn't mean that literally anything done in the name of protest is A-OK.
 
So everyone protesting was white? That seems like a pretty shameless co-opting of another movement to try and push your own causes with some tenuous reasoning.

I would call them well meaning idiots. Their hearts are in the right place, but their brains aren't.
 
You can knock off the sarcasm - you don't have to be some unthinking monster to believe that lashing out at entirely irrelevant third parties is fine and dandy because, well, our voices just need to be heard. Protest needs to "get in the way" but that doesn't mean that literally anything done in the name of protest is A-OK.
From the history, no protest is reasonable. Every BLM protest has been met with criticism on the location and means. It's becoming a joke. There is no reason. A good number of people, on this board, are fundamentally more concerned with the logistics of protest that stopping the reason for the protest.

It's an insult. You get upset with my sarcasm that addressing the criticism directed at the protestors. A NFL qb is being hyper criticized because he didn't stand for a song. BLM head been criticized for protesting on a bridge or an airport. Criticized for standing up, being quiet, saying something.

No matter who or what this particular instance, i can depends on someone or a significant number of people complaining about the means and methods.
 
The London riots? Most of those people were entitled opportunistic shitbags who decided to burn down their own neighbourhoods for a laugh.

If you ask people here they'll say the same thing about Furgeson/Baltimore ect... Maybe things aren't as different as you think. (Minus the shitload of guns)
 
Was even more painful to listen to LBC today.

What's worse is the BLM supporting tweets so you can't even separate the weird as hell protest from the movement.
 
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