Black Ops 6 best performing CoD in 10yrs (Half of PC players on GamePass // First time xbox players outnumber PS)

Best performing? Or best selling?
First time Xbox number outperform PS players? Because they have it on Gamepass? Or because they bought more copies?

If theres no info on this, its the typical we have 1million bullets shots in our opening weekend. No1 cares and it means nothing.

Only thing that does matter from these kind of stats is if Gamepass numbers increases and stay to those increased numbers after 6 months. Not $1 gamepass memberships either lol
 
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clarky said:
Never said it was true if you read the thread, it said having move players on Xbox is entirely possible, due to them basically giving it away on that platform.


www.neogaf.com

Game Pass Ultimate Makes up 70 ~ 80% of Total Game Pass Subscribers

Just as shocking as finding out that the most number of PS Plus subscribers are on the most expensive Premium tier. From the recent EC summary, it states that 70~80% of total game pass subs are on the Ultimate plan. Unfortunately the total # of subs is redacted.
www.neogaf.com www.neogaf.com
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Right. That thread was created in July 2023. The last reported number of GP subscribers at the time was 25 million. So 70-80% is between 17.5 and 20 million.
 
Topher said:
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All of that information most be mental gymnastics 😂😂😂
 
Topher said:
Right. That thread was created in July 2023. The last reported number of GP subscribers at the time was 25 million. So 70-80% is between 17.5 and 20 million.
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Thats a lot of potential COD players is all im saying. The OP isn't out of the realms of possiblity.
 
Topher said:
I don't know how anyone can derive the statements made in the OP from that especially if it is talking about worldwide numbers.
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Especially when actual sales numbers (revenue) being reported are showing where the real value as a company and their product is. Reliant on the "competition's" ecosystem.

The rest is all mental gymnastics and wordplay since the former can't be claimed at this point in time.
 
clarky said:
Thats a lot of potential COD players is all im saying. The OP isn't out of the realms of possiblity.
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No, that's impossible according to Gaf experts. Look at the Switch reveal thread, they never fail on their analysis. Microsoft and Call of Duty are
Doomed forever, not matter what official sources says.
 
clarky said:
Thats a lot of potential COD players is all im saying. The OP isn't out of the realms of possiblity.
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Seems unlikely considering the install base of PS4 and PS5 vs Xbox One and Series. Not impossible, no.

LordOcidax said:
No, that's impossible according to Gaf experts. Look at the Switch reveal thread, they never fail on their analysis. Microsoft and Call of Duty are
Doomed forever, not matter what official sources says.
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What "official sources" are you talking about?
 
Kokoloko85 said:
Is this true?

COD BO6 is -15% compared to MW3 and -46% compares to MW2

Compared to MW3
PS5 (+30%)
PC (-18%)
Xbox (-67%)

PS5 70% of sales, Xbox 10%, PC 16%, PS4 4%


13 minutes 10 seconds in

The Microcast can also be found on the GamesIndustry.biz YouTube channel, or via this playlist.
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It's from this.

www.neogaf.com

UK (Digital/Physical sales) - Black Ops 6: PS5 257K, PC 59K, Xbox 37K

UK first week (retail+digital) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Total Sales : 679.000 units PS5: 285.100 units (42%) Xbox: 220.600 units (32,5%) PS4: 101.800 units (15%) PC: 71.300 units (10,5%) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 Total Sales : 433.000 units PS5: 197.000 units (45%) Xbox: 112.000...
www.neogaf.com www.neogaf.com
 
I expect this to be the best selling COD ever. Microsoft have proven to us doubters all the facts- games that go onto gamepass sell more. So I am certain that within the next few weeks, we will see the numbers showing that this years all "new" COD will be the best selling COD ever and all you rental haters can suck Phil's big fat dick.
 
Topher said:
Seems unlikely considering the install base of PS4 and PS5 vs Xbox One and Series. Not impossible, no.
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Active players on CODHQ as per Activisions own numbers. This is old data but looks like numbers have gone down if anything since on all formats. Like i said its entirely possible.

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MacReady13 said:
I expect this to be the best selling COD ever. Microsoft have proven to us doubters all the facts- games that go onto gamepass sell more. So I am certain that within the next few weeks, we will see the numbers showing that this years all "new" COD will be the best selling COD ever and all you rental haters can suck Phil's big fat dick.
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Hahaha omg I can't tell what's real or not any more.

Either this is satire or you're the one who's been chugging on Phil Spencer.

When gamepass was kinda new, Phil made a bold claim that games sell more if they end up on game pass citing like 2 examples.

Since then there have been many games that have been on gamepass and haven't sold better, and in fact sold worse. Especially if it's first party. If they had we would have heard about it from the messiah, since he loves shouting stuff like this . But sadly we haven't.

So what's your game here? If this cod sells the 'best ever' somehow Phil and gamepass is redeemed? It's been a failure for years now...
 
Donald mac Ronald said:
Hahaha omg I can't tell what's real or not any more.

Either this is satire or you're the one who's been chugging on Phil Spencer.

When gamepass was kinda new, Phil made a bold claim that games sell more if they end up on game pass citing like 2 examples.

Since then there have been many games that have been on gamepass and haven't sold better, and in fact sold worse. Especially if it's first party. If they had we would have heard about it from the messiah, since he loves shouting stuff like this . But sadly we haven't.

So what's your game here? If this cod sells the 'best ever' somehow Phil and gamepass is redeemed? It's been a failure for years now...
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You probably couldn't sense my sarcasm in that post- I fucking loathe gamepass and ALL that it potentially could do to the videogames industry.

I hate what fat, lying Phil has done to Xbox and that he has ruined what was once my preferred place to game. I am now in the process of selling my Series X as I have zero reasons to play it anymore.
 
MacReady13 said:
You probably couldn't sense my sarcasm in that post- I fucking loathe gamepass and ALL that it potentially could do to the videogames industry.

I hate what fat, lying Phil has done to Xbox and that he has ruined what was once my preferred place to game. I am now in the process of selling my Series X as I have zero reasons to play it anymore.
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To be fair. After I posted i realised it was sarcasm. Unfortunately there's deluded People who probably still believe gamepass is the new new testament.
 
Malcolm9 said:
Keep reaching son 😆
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Half of all the entire Xbox install base in the US launched CoD in the first 7 days offical figures.

So one quarter of all PS5 owners bought the game on launch week to beat that?

It's not surprising there's more players on Xbox right now.
 
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Mattyp said:
Half of all the entire Xbox install base in the US launched CoD in the first 7 days offical figures.

So one quarter of all PS5 owners bought the game on launch week to beat that?

It's not surprising there's more players on Xbox right now.
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Let me tell you about an entire world outside of the US.
Mat Tweeted (or whatever he uses now) about people launching CoD HQ, not BO6. Launch week was 47% on Xbox, up from 26%, and 31% up from 25% on PS. (see posts by XXL XXL and Topher Topher ).
Could it be true? Yes, sure. Is it true because the lying ass guy in the OP says so? No. Dude is a farmer for $.

Edit: Do we have sales estimates of PS5 and Series consoles in the US? Not VGChartz.
 
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Looking at the sales breakdown, what is clear is that if Microsoft were to release CoD exclusively on PC and X Series, it would be one of the biggest failures in history, hand in hand with Concord.
 
clarky said:
But the thread is about total player numbers? Nobody is disputing that they sold more on playstation?
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To be fair, this thread is about the claim that "BO6 is the best performing COD in 10 years".

Some folks can use the "total players" metric in favor of the claim, while others can dispute the claim by saying that sales data so far makes that claim a lie.
 
LordOcidax said:
All of that information most be mental gymnastics 😂😂😂
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These are mental gymnastics.

No one needs to show such convulated 6 pieces of statistics. Just share sales data (# of copies sold, ideally on each platform) and be done with it.

As long as they hide that numbers, there will be questions. No amount of emojis can put a stop to those questions :)
 
Heisenberg007 said:
To be fair, this thread is about the claim that "BO6 is the best performing COD in 10 years".

Some folks can use the "total players" metric in favor of the claim, while others can dispute the claim by saying that sales data so far makes that claim a lie.
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It gives you the metric by which they are judging success in the title of the thread, player numbers. You cut off half the title. Maybe I interpreted the subject differently.

"Black Ops 6 best performing COD in 10yrs (Half of PC players on GamePass // First time xbox players outnumber PS)"

You and I have already gone over it. As I said at the time and for fear of repeating myself, the OP maybe bullshit, but the fact that the OP claims that their are more players on Xbox, however improbable isn't out of the realms of possibility due to the fact they are basically giving it away to +20million existing sub + any new ones. Personally i don't see it as much of a stretch at all.

Better question is where is it making the most money? We likely won't get an answer to that for a while , if at all, but I think we all know already.

For the record I don't agree with this metric either. Success in my eyes is judged in money and that doesn't seem to be working out for them either, but again thats not what we were discussing.
 
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clarky said:
It gives you the metric by which they are judging success in the title of the thread, player numbers. You cut off half the title. Maybe I interpreted the subject differently.

"Black Ops 6 best performing COD in 10yrs (Half of PC players on GamePass // First time xbox players outnumber PS)"

You and I have already gone over it. As I said at the time and for fear of repeating myself, the OP maybe bullshit, but the fact that the OP claims that their are more players on Xbox, however improbable isn't out of the realms of possibility due to the fact they are basically giving it away to +20million existing sub + any new ones. Personally i don't see it as much of a stretch at all.

For the record I don't agree with this metric either. Success in my eyes is judged in money and that doesn't seem to be working out for them either, but again thats not what we where discussing.
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I jumped halfway into this conversation so might be missing context, but I think nobody is disputing that Xbox will likely have more players playing the game, and that folks are only questioning the claim of "best-performing COD" after seeing decreased sales in the UK sales data thread?

(again, I could be missing context)
 
Heisenberg007 said:
I jumped halfway into this conversation so might be missing context, but I think nobody is disputing that Xbox will likely have more players playing the game, and that folks are only questioning the claim of "best-performing COD" after seeing decreased sales in the UK sales data thread?

(again, I could be missing context)
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I was getting jumped on for suggesting there was a possibility that the could be more players on Xbox.


But all good. A bit of lively discussion is what we are all here for :)
 
clarky said:
I was getting jumped on for suggesting there was a possibility that the could be more players on Xbox.


But all good. A bit of lively discussion is what we are all here for :)
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The typical "my team, your team" forum arguments I sometimes see in this thread doesn't even matter.

The KPI here is obviously how much more money MS can make from the added GP reach in terms of in-game sales, minus the cost of putting it on GP.

Simple as that.
 
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nemiroff said:
The typical "my team, your team" forum arguments I sometimes see in this thread doesn't even matter.

The KPI here is obviously how much more money MS can make from the added GP reach in terms of in-game sales. Simple as that.

Idk the numbers, but _if_ it "engages" more people than without and thus nets MS more than the total cost of putting it on GP, it will be stamped as a success.
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Obviously like you say MS must think getting a higher volume of players on their platforms via gamepass and making at least some stick then with the added MTX on top is worth it.

Also seems like the UK numbers from the other thread don't tell the whole story as the Steam CCU is above both MW2 and MWIII pointing towards better sales on PC not worse.

Going to be a while before we can say if this has been a disaster or not. Thought we would have had some more bullshit engagement tweets by now to be honest.
 
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LordOcidax said:
No, that's impossible according to Gaf experts. Look at the Switch reveal thread, they never fail on their analysis. Microsoft and Call of Duty are
Doomed forever, not matter what official sources says.
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Xbox is done for as a platformholder. They can only be successful as a 3rd party publisher going forward.

That's what people are saying.
 
clarky said:
Cool, but thats not what we were talking about.
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Idc what you were talking about, I was replying to the last sentence of what the other guy posted.

Which also has everything to do with COD's future, now that it's part of Xbox.
 
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Killjoy-NL said:
Idc what you were talking about, I was replying to the last sentence of what the other guy posted.

Which also has everything to do with COD's future, now that it's part of Xbox.
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The other guy was replying to me, we were discussing player counts. Fuck all to do with what you said.

Xbox doomed tho.
 
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clarky said:
The other guy was replying to me, we were discussing player counts. Fuck all to do with what you said.

Xbox doomed tho.
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And I was also replying to that other guy, so it had fuck all to do with you.

But we can agree on that last statement.😘
 
Forget about all the other numbers. The only number that matters to these companies at the end of the day is $$$. So is it making more money or less?
 
Killjoy-NL said:
Xbox is done for as a platformholder. They can only be successful as a 3rd party publisher going forward.

That's what people are saying.
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Lies No GIF


Is platform only hardware? or is Platform now Xbox? or Microsoft gaming?
You're statement is not a fact, no matter how much you want it to be.

They are far from done as a platform holder. See you in ten years.
 
DenchDeckard said:
Lies No GIF


Is platform only hardware? or is Platform now Xbox? or Microsoft gaming?
You're statement is not a fact, no matter how much you want it to be.

They are far from done as a platform holder. See you in ten years.
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Yeah they're not finished, but in a transition of sorts. With nearly everyone now going third-party in various ways, it's clear we're moving toward a new time. Whether Microsoft will opt for another round of custom hardware or pivot to branded hardware standards remains to be seen. I for one think we're going to move even further away from traditional, bespoke console hardware. The shift to X86 architecture only reinforces this trend.
 
clarky said:
So we only believe eXtas1s when the Xbox news is negative?

Got it.
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Not calling it bullshit or believing in this guys source but any positive Xbox news is fake news, you know that right? Or that's at least what certain users want you to believe.

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